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July 2019 General Discussions & Observations Thread


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32 minutes ago, bluewave said:

It looks like the old thermometer was located on the castle in the sunlight before the 1990’s. That’s why NYC had more 90 days before the 1990’s than after. High temperatures on the castle were often warmer than LGA and very close to Newark. But putting the thermometer under the thick canopy and vegetation around November 95 caused an artificial decline in high temperatures. So we really can’t compare pre-1995 temperature data with post. Here is another NYT article about when the thermometer in the castle got vandalized in 1977. They had to start taking temperatures at LGA for a while. 

https://www.nytimes.com/1977/12/31/archives/castle-is-secure-but-weathermen-are-still-moving.html

Vandals’ destruction of equipment in the castle had disrupted the Weather Service's collection of meteorological data so frequently that the service had decided not to bother with repairing the station after a particularly severe incident of vandalism two months ago, Instead, the service took all its temperatures at an alternative station at La Guardia Airport in Queens,

All of the reasons everyone has mentioned is probably why most major cities just use the airports. Could be tough to find a place with enough space to have an acceptable sitting, yet safe and protected from vandals and other interference. The sheep meadow would be nice but imagine permanently closing that to the public lol.  I don't think vandalism at the castle would be as much of a problem now as it was back then anyway. They probably could put it back with little issue. The current site can be easily vandalized too but that doesnt seem to be a problem.

I wonder, they cant get permission from the city to trim the trees around it? Maybe cut down a couple all together. It wouldnt be perfect but itd be an improvement and wouldnt involve breaking the continuity by moving the site. They could offer to pay for the planting of a few new trees elsewhere to make up for it.

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2 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

Did you have it set up in 2010 and 2011?  In 2010 we exceeded 100 on three days and in 2011 we reached 104!

 

No, got my first pws in 2012. My dad did have a Davis when I was a kid, but I never saw it hit 100

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6 minutes ago, uofmiami said:

Ten (10) 90 degree days for me so far.  9 this month and 1 last month.

How many did you have from July 1 to July8? Wundergorund lost my data for that week. Was it hot?

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3 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

what is there all time heat index record?  I assume it's from 2011?

115 degrees in 1999 and 2011. JFK made it to 114 this July. Also numerous hourly dewpoint record highs and ties. So a continuation of the unprecedented dewpoint surge since 2016.

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5 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Any reason we do not have a shot a convection today? I would appreciate some insight. Also, the potential for an organized MCs tomorrow or just scattered storms

there is a shot today, which HRRR has mostly been totally clueless about. there is some dry air and a warm layer aloft, but neither of these is sufficient to prevent isolated cells. already seeing some well inland, but the seabreeze fronts will focus a few nearby. only about a 20% chance for anyone in the city to see one, higher chances over eastern LI, CT, Hudson Valley and parts of NJ. 

take the weather you see over western PA and upstate today, and put it squarely over us tomorrow. looks like numerous storms in the afternoon hours as the weakening front/trough approach.

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8 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Heavy thunderstorms  are firing now along the sea breeze front in the North Shore of Suffolk.

 

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Surface winds along the north shore have been light off of the sound while the rest of the island has had a southerly breeze.  That and watching the radar over the past couple of hours and the boundary looks more LIS related  rather than the ocean sea breeze which should be able to easily overpower any local sound breeze.  Lots of thunder and a little rain here.  A mile or 2 north (e.g., Short Beach) a lot of days are being ruined.

 

I'm about 2 miles north of the dot representing Smithtown right on the edge of the precip.

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Just now, NorthShoreWx said:

Surface winds along the north shore have been light off of the sound while the rest of the island has had a southerly breeze.  That and watching the radar over the past couple of hours and the boundary looks more LIS related  rather than the ocean sea breeze which should be able to easily overpower any local sound breeze.  Lots of thunder and a little rain here.  A mile or 2 north (e.g., Short Beach) a lot of days are being ruined.

The sea breeze front from the ocean often runs up to the North Shore and meets the convergence zone where the local winds are more NW. Stony Brook gusted to 30 mph with a quick .35. You can see the CU field along the sea breeze front starting out near ISP a few hours back. The convection developed when it reached the local sound breeze. 

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