Roger Smith Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 What kind of North Atlantic tropical cyclone season do you predict for 2019? Our annual contest asks you to predict the total number of storms, and break it down by months. As you know, the "count" is total number of named storms, then total number of those that become hurricanes, and finally total number of hurricanes that become major (cat-3 or stronger). In 2017 the final count was 17/10/6 and our contest winner was Rockchalk83. In 2018 the final count was 15/8/2 and the contest winner was "A few Universes below normal" closely followed by UIWWildThing. Also in 2018, contest normal and the NHC mid-range forecast scored higher than any contest entrants. The rules are fairly simple. You need to post a seasonal total by the deadline which I am setting as June 1st but this could be extended a few days to increase the participation as long as no new named storms appear in early June. Your seasonal total should include any developments in May, and just as I thought of starting the contest, STS Andrea has appeared. The current forecasts for that cap it at 35 knots, so the count is already 1 0 0 for May. If there is further activity in May, that will be counted in the seasonal total too. But you don't have to predict anything for May, just add 1 0 0 for May in your forecast line. Your seasonal total will be adjusted if the monthly totals for your forecast when added up match your seasonal total but the 1 0 0 May portion changes. Contest normal will also change as that is based on the assumption that the 1989-2018 average used to create it applies to the defined season (this May activity is assumed to be extra to the normal values although May activity is becoming a fairly common occurrence recently). In 2017, all entrants gave monthly predictions and almost all left them unedited, but the contest rules allow you to submit these up to 06z of the first of each month, or to revise those already submitted by that deadline. Note, there is no requirement for your monthly numbers to add up to your seasonal numbers and you can use decimal points to express uncertainty. In 2018, one entrant (the eventual contest winner) submitted only a seasonal forecast. When that happens, I take a scaled version of contest normal that adds up to the entrant's seasonal totals. Those were fairly similar in that case so the entrant was playing off the contest normal basically, reduced by one IIRC. I am going to post my forecast mostly as a guide to how your forecast should appear (not the numbers but the format) ... Roger Smith ____ 18 12 4 ____ (May) 1 0 0 _ (Jun) 1 1 0 _ (Jul) 1 1 0 __ (Aug) 4 3 1 __ (Sep) 6 4 2 __ (Oct) 4 3 1 __ (Nov-Dec) 1 0 0 (this assumes a result of 1 0 0 May, would be adjusted to 19 12 4 if 2 0 0 or 19 13 4 if 2 1 0) The following are contest normals (adjusted for the May 1 0 0 ) and the current (amended June 5th when one storm and one hurricane added to April forecast) CSU and NHC mid-range forecasts below them. Note that the monthly forecasts for these are scaled down versions of the contest normals, they are not actual forecasts, only seasonal totals were predicted. This is for contest scoring comparisons. I am also going to track NHC high end of range as I suspect that may do better than their mid-range. I am not totally sure if their forecasts include the May activity or are meant to apply to June to November only, so having the high end forecast in play will perhaps cover that ambiguity. Contest Normal __16 8 3 ____ (May) 1 0 0 __ (Jun) 1 0 0 _ (Jul) 1 0 0 _ (Aug) 4 2 1 __ (Sep) 6 4 1 __ (Oct) 3 2 1 _ (Nov-Dec) 0 0 0 NHC (midrange) _ 12 6 3 ____ (May) 1 0 0 __ (Jun) 1 0 0 _ (Jul) 1 0 0 _ (Aug) 3 2 1 __ (Sep) 4 3 1 __ (Oct) 2 1 1 _ (Nov-Dec) 0 0 0 NHC (high end) __15 8 4 ____ (May) 1 0 0 __ (Jun) 1 0 0 _ (Jul) 1 0 0 _ (Aug) 4 2 1 __ (Sep) 5 4 2 __ (Oct) 3 2 1 _ (Nov-Dec) 0 0 0 CSU (Junel fcst) __13 6 2 ____ (May) 1 0 0 __ (Jun) 1 0 0 _ (Jul) 1 0 0 _ (Aug) 3 2 1 __ (Sep) 5 3 1 __ (Oct) 2 1 0 _ (Nov-Dec) 0 0 0 Scoring for the contest is as follows: 50% of the score is based on the seasonal. You start with 50 points and in each category, you lose half of (1 point per error plus that number squared). Example, you predict 16 storms, the actual is 19, your error is (3 + 3 squared)/2 = 12/2 = 6. If you had similar errors for hurricanes and majors, your total score would then be 32/50. The other 50% of the score is based on your monthly forecasts starting with June and ending with Nov-Dec. These are worth 4, 6, 12, 16, 10 and 2 points in order from June to Nov-Dec. Then the errors reduce your possible score in the same way as the seasonal formula, except that June, July and Nov-Dec go with half the reductions (in other words, you lose points at half the rate of the other more active months). In the past few years, highest scores in the contest have been close to 90 (dropping to 84 last year) and seasonal scores of 48 to 50 have been achieved. A good monthly set has earned scores totalling 41-43 points. Good luck if you enter. The deadline will be made more precise around June 1st and all entrants can edit up to the eventual deadline without notice, you can assume that I won't be copying down or storing any forecasts until a firm deadline is posted in the thread and up to that firm deadline, so no need to post new numbers, just edit the old ones. Once a table of entries appears, your numbers are set for the seasonal and June portions but you have the option of posting revised monthly numbers at any point during the contest before monthly deadlines. Late monthly revisions will be penalized at a rate of 10% per day but will not be valid after any named storm is declared in the month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 16/7/3 May 1/0/0 June 1/0/0 July 3/0/0 August 3/2/1 September 6/4/1 October 2/1/1 Nov/Dec 0/0/0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 14/6/3 May 1/0/0 June 1/0/0 July 3/2/0 August 3/2/1 September 3/1/1 October 2/1/1 November/December 1/0/0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 15/5/1 May 1/0/0 June 0/0/0 July 2/0/0 August 3/2/0 September 5/3/1 October 3/0/0 November/December 1/0/0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 17/7/3 May 1/0/0 June 2/1/0 July 2/1/0 August 3/1/1 September 5/3/2 October 4/1/0 November/December 0/0/0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyclonicFury Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 14/6/2 May: 1/0/0 June: 0/0/0 July: 1/0/0 August: 4/2/1 September: 5/3/1 October: 2/1/0 November: 1/0/0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 16/9/4 May 1/0/0 June 1/0/0 July 2/1/0 August 4/3/1 September 5/4/2 October 2/1/1 November/December 1/0/0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 15/9/4 May 1/0/0 June 0/0/0 July 2/1/0 August 2/2/0 September 4/3/2 October 4/2/2 November/December 2/1/0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yotaman Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 13/5/2 May 1/0/0 June 1/0/0 July 2/1/0 August 3/1/0 September 3/2/1 October 2/1/1 November/December 1/0/0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 13/7/2 May 1/0/0 June 1/0/0 July 1/1/0 August 3/2/0 September 4/3/2 October 3/1/0 November/December 0/0/0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthArlington101 Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 16/7/3 May 1/0/0 June 1/0/0 July 3/1/0 August 3/2/1 September 5/3/1 October 2/1/1 Nov/Dec 1/0/0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Smith Posted June 1, 2019 Author Share Posted June 1, 2019 The deadline for entries will be extended through the weekend of June 1-2 to encourage a larger field. Those who have already entered may edit current forecasts during this time. Absolute deadline June 3rd 0600z, or earlier if the current slowly developing system depicted on NHS guidance map near Belize gets a more definite forecast for named storm activity. Thanks for entering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfewUniversesBelowNormal Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 June 1 July 2 August 3 September 4 October 2 November 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 15/7/2 May 1/0/0 June 1/0/0 July 1/1/0 August 3/2/0 September 5/3/1 October 3/1/1 November/December 1/0/0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncforecaster89 Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 15/7/3 May 1/0/0 June 1/0/0 July 2/1/0 August 3/2/1 September 4/3/1 October 3/1/1 November/December 1/0/0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Smith Posted June 3, 2019 Author Share Posted June 3, 2019 On 5/31/2019 at 7:18 PM, AfewUniversesBelowNormal said: June 1 July 2 August 3 September 4 October 2 November 1 Okay so that's 13 more named storms, a total of 14 counting the one already recorded in May ... care to mention how many will be hurricanes and of those, major hurricanes? I will enter your numbers scaled to the contest normal in the absence of any further numbers. Thanks. And in general, we have reached the deadline now, so a table of entries will be posted soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfewUniversesBelowNormal Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Ok, Thanks. I think El Nino will keep out to ocean activity down, but the Atlantic triple pattern could record some good hits. June 1-0-0 July 2-1-0 August 3-3-1 September 4-3-2 October 2-2-0 November 1-0-0 Total 14-9-3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Smith Posted June 5, 2019 Author Share Posted June 5, 2019 Table of entries for 2019 Atlantic Tropical-Season Forecast Contest This year, will be keeping all the non-contest-entrant data in a separate zone at the top of the table. For entrants, the forecasts are listed in descending order of total storms with total hurricanes the second point of breaking ties, and majors the third point. FORECASTER ___________ SEASONAL __ MAY ___ JUN___ JUL ___ AUG ___ SEP ___ OCT ___ NOV-DEC Contest Normal ___________16 8 3 _____ 1 0 0 __ 1 0 0 __ 1 0 0 __ 4 2 1 __ 6 4 1 __ 3 2 1 __ 0 0 0 Contest consensus ________ 15 7 3 _____ 1 0 0 __ 1 0 0 __ 2 1 0 __ 3 2 1 __ 5 3 1 __ 2 1 1 __ 1 0 0 NHC (high end) ___________15 8 4 _____1 0 0 __ 1 0 0 __ 1 0 0 __ 4 2 1 __ 5 4 2 __ 3 2 1 __ 0 0 0 NHC (midrange) __________ 12 6 3 _____1 0 0 __ 1 0 0 __ 1 0 0 __ 3 2 1 __ 4 3 1 __ 2 1 1 __ 0 0 0 CSU (June fcst) ___________13 6 2 _____1 0 0 __ 1 0 0 __ 1 0 0 __ 3 2 1 __ 5 3 1 __ 2 1 0 __ 0 0 0 _____________________________________________________________________________________ Roger Smith _____________18 12_4 ____ 1 0 0 __ 1 1 0 __ 1 1 0 __ 4 3 1 __ 6 4 2 __ 4 3 1 __ 1 0 0 ineedsnow _______________17 7 3 _____ 1 0 0 __ 2 1 0 __ 2 1 0 __ 3 1 1 __ 5 3 2 __ 4 1 0 __ 0 0 0 RJay ____________________16 9 4 _____ 1 0 0 __ 1 0 0 __ 2 1 0 __ 4 3 1 __ 5 4 2 __ 2 1 1 __ 1 0 0 snowlover2 ______________ 16 7 3 _____ 1 0 0 __ 1 0 0 __ 3 0 0 __ 3 2 1 __ 6 4 1 __ 2 1 1 __ 0 0 0 NorthArlington101 _________16 7 3 _____ 1 0 0 __ 1 0 0 __ 3 1 0 __ 3 2 1 __ 5 3 1 __ 2 1 1 __ 1 0 0 Julian Colton _____________ 15 9 4 _____ 1 0 0 __ 0 0 0 __ 2 1 0 __ 2 2 0 __ 4 3 2 __ 4 2 2 __ 2 1 0 NCforecaster89 ___________ 15 7 3 _____ 1 0 0 __ 1 0 0 __ 2 1 0 __ 3 2 1 __ 4 3 1 __ 3 1 1 __ 1 0 0 hlcater __________________15 7 2 _____ 1 0 0 __ 1 0 0 __ 1 1 0 __ 3 2 0 __ 5 3 1 __ 3 1 1 __ 1 0 0 Stormlover74 ____________ 15 5 1 _____ 1 0 0 __ 0 0 0 __ 2 0 0 __ 3 2 0 __ 5 3 1 __ 3 0 0 __ 1 0 0 AfewUniv b n _____________14 9 3 _____ 1 0 0 __ 1 0 0 __ 2 1 0 __ 3 3 1 __ 4 3 2 __ 2 2 0 __ 1 0 0 Stebo ___________________14 6 3 _____ 1 0 0 __ 1 0 0 __ 3 2 0 __ 3 2 1 __ 3 1 1 __ 2 1 1 __ 1 0 0 CyclonicFury _____________ 14 6 2 _____ 1 0 0 __ 0 0 0 __ 1 0 0 __ 4 2 1 __ 5 3 1 __ 2 1 0 __ 1 0 0 yoda ____________________13 7 2 _____ 1 0 0 __ 1 0 0 __ 1 1 0 __ 3 2 0 __ 4 3 2 __ 3 1 0 __ 0 0 0 yotaman ________________ 13 5 2 _____ 1 0 0 __ 1 0 0 __ 2 1 0 __ 3 1 0 __ 3 2 1 __ 2 1 1 __ 1 0 0 __________________________________________________________________________________ Apart from my somewhat higher forecast, the rest of our 14 entrants have chosen values fairly close to the long-term average with a bit of a spread, and so the contest is likely to be closely fought (unless we get a very active season). Our consensus is very close to the top of the NHC range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Smith Posted July 9, 2019 Author Share Posted July 9, 2019 June had no activity so the scoring (out of four possible points) looks like this: 4 pts (0,0,0 forecasts) __ Julian Colton, Stormlover74, Cyclonic Fury 3.5 pts (1,0,0 forecasts) _ all others except below 3.0 pts (1,1,0 forecast) __ Roger Smith 2.5 pts (2,1,0 forecast) __ ineedsnow ================================= July may get some action apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 So Barry was a hurricane for what 3 hours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Smith Posted August 3, 2019 Author Share Posted August 3, 2019 July finished 1/1/0 so the scores for June and July look like this ... FORECASTER _____June_ July __ TOTAL Yoda ____________ 3.5 _ 6.0 ___ 9.5 hlcater ___________3.5 _ 6.0 ___ 9.5 cyclonic fury ______ 4.0 _ 5.5 ___ 9.5 Julian Colton ______4.0 _ 5.5 ___ 9.5 stormlover74 ______4.0 _ 5.0 ___ 9.0 Roger Smith ______ 3.0 _ 6.0 ___ 9.0 RJay ____________ 3.5 _ 5.5 ___ 9.0 NCforecaster89 ____3.5 _ 5.5 ___ 9.0 AfewUniv b n _____ 3.5 _ 5.5 ___ 9.0 yotaman _________ 3.5 _ 5.5 ___ 9.0 Normal, NHC, CSU _ 3.5 _ 5.5 ___ 9.0 Consensus _______ 3.5 _ 5.5 ___ 9.0 ineedsnow ________2.5 _ 5.5 ___ 8.0 NorthArlington101 _ 3.5 _ 4.5 ___ 8.0 snowlover2 _______3.5 _ 4.0 ___ 7.5 Stebo ___________ 3.5 _ 4.0 ___ 7.5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Smith Posted September 4, 2019 Author Share Posted September 4, 2019 August finished at 3/1/1. The August scores (max is 12.0) combined with two earlier scores are shown here: FORECASTER _________ June __ July __ August ___ TOTAL (max 22) Ineedsnow ____________ 2.5 __ 5.5 ___ 12.0 _____ 20.0 NCforecaster89 _________3.5 __ 5.5 ___ 11.0 _____ 20.0 yotaman ______________ 3.5 __ 5.5 ___ 11.0 _____ 20.0 __ NHC, CSU, consensus _ 3.5 __ 5.5 ___ 11.0 _____ 20.0 yoda _________________ 3.5 __ 6.0 ___ 10.0 _____ 19.5 hlcater ________________3.5 __ 6.0 ___ 10.0 _____ 19.5 cyclonic fury ___________ 4.0 __ 5.5 ___ 10.0 _____ 19.5 stormlover74 ___________4.0 __ 5.0 ___ 10.0 _____ 19.0 North Arlington 101 _____ 3.5 __ 4.5 ___ 11.0 _____ 19.0 __ Contest normal ______ 3.5 __ 5.5 ___ 10.0 _____ 19.0 Julian Colton ___________ 4.0 __ 5.5 ____ 9.0 _____ 18.5 snowlover2 ____________ 3.5 __ 4.0 ___ 11.0 _____ 18.5 Stebo _________________ 3.5 __ 4.0 ___ 11.0 _____ 18.5 A few Univ b n __________3.5 __ 5.5 ____ 9.0 _____ 18.0 Roger Smith ___________ 3.0 __ 6.0 ____ 8.0 _____ 17.0 RJay __________________3.5 __ 5.5 ____ 8.0 _____ 17.0 ____________________________________________________________ Ineedsnow had the only perfect forecast for August but most of the others were fairly close and lost only one or two of the possible scoring points. The seasonal contest is still highly dependent on what happens this month and to some extent in October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Smith Posted September 30, 2019 Author Share Posted September 30, 2019 It appears that September will finish 7/3/2 (not in the contest rules but Dorian's extension into the month gave 8/4/3 as the total activity for the month -- this won't be scored alternatively since Dorian had achieved all its stages in August). Nobody in the contest (or the normals and outside entrants) had seven named storms, the maximum forecast was 6 from myself and also snowlover2, and contest normal. This meant that the top score was 14/16 for September. Several however got both the number of hurricanes and major hurricanes correct. Have added the September scores (out of a possible 16 points) to the already tabulated June to August scoring. The season total is now 12/5/3. The scoring is very close and depending on the accuracy of your Oct (and N-D) forecasts (10 plus 2 points to come), blended with your seasonal score out of 50, almost anyone could still win the contest. Scoring for June to September FORECASTER _________ Jun __ Jul __ Aug __ Sep ____ TOTAL (max 38) Ineedsnow ____________ 2.5 __ 5.5 __ 12.0 __ 13.0 ____ 33.0 __ Contest normal _____ 3.5 __ 5.5 __ 10.0 __ 13.0 ____ 32.0 __ CSU, consensus _____3.5 __ 5.5 __ 11.0 __ 12.0 ____ 32.0 hlcater ________________3.5 __ 6.0 __ 10.0 __ 12.0 ____ 31.5 cyclonic fury __________ 4.0 __ 5.5 __ 10.0 __ 12.0 ____ 31.5 snowlover2 ____________3.5 __ 4.0 __ 11.0 __ 13.0 ____ 31.5 stormlover74 __________4.0 __ 5.0 __ 10.0 __ 12.0 ____ 31.0 North Arlington 101 ____3.5 __ 4.5 __ 11.0 __ 12.0 ____ 31.0 Roger Smith ___________ 3.0 __ 6.0 ___ 8.0 __ 14.0 ____ 31.0 __ NHC (high end) _____ 3.5 __ 5.5 __ 10.0 __ 12.0 ____ 31.0 yoda __________________ 3.5 __ 6.0 __ 10.0 __ 10.0 ____ 29.5 NCforecaster89 _______ 3.5 __ 5.5 __ 11.0 ___ 9.0 ____ 29.0 RJay __________________ 3.5 __ 5.5 ___ 8.0 __ 12.0 ____ 29.0 __ NHC (median) ______ 3.5 __ 5.5 __ 11.0 ___ 9.0 ____ 29.0 Julian Colton __________ 4.0 __ 5.5 ___ 9.0 __ 10.0 ____ 28.5 A few Univ b n _________ 3.5 __ 5.5 ___ 9.0 __ 10.0 ____ 28.0 yotaman ______________ 3.5 __ 5.5 __ 11.0 ___ 4.0 ____ 24.0 Stebo _________________ 3.5 __ 4.0 __ 11.0 ___ 2.0 ____ 20.5 ____________________________________________________________ This is what your seasonal forecast will score if your Oct and N-D forecasts added to the current total add 12 points to your monthly totals. That may not represent the best possible outcome from where you are now. For example, in my case, I would get a higher total if my October forecast busted low on hurricanes, although the net gain is small. In most cases, you will score less than shown here eventually. FORECASTER ________ June-Sept points ______ Seasonal fcst ___ Seasonal count (12 5 3 + your Oct Nov-Dec) _________________________________________________________________________________ Score __ +12 for Oct, N-D __ Total Ineedsnow _____________ 33.0 ___________________ 17 7 3 ___________ 16 6 3 _________ 48 _____ 12 ______________ 93.0 hlcater _________________ 31.5 ___________________ 15 7 2 ___________ 16 6 4 _________ 45 _____ 12 ______________ 88.5 Cyclonic Fury ___________ 31.5 ___________________ 14 6 2 ___________ 15 6 3 _________ 48 _____ 12 ______________ 91.5 snowlover2 _____________ 31.5 ___________________ 16 7 3 ___________ 14 6 4 _________ 45 _____ 12 ______________ 88.5 stormlover74 ___________ 31.0 ___________________ 15 5 1 ___________ 16 5 3 _________ 46 _____ 12 ______________ 89.0 North Arlington 101 _____ 31.0 ___________________ 16 7 3 ___________ 15 6 4 _________ 47 _____ 12 ______________ 90.0 Roger Smith ____________ 31.0 ___________________ 18 12 4 __________ 17 8 4 _________ 39 _____ 12 ______________ 82.0 yoda ____________________29.5 ___________________ 13 7 2 ____________15 6 3 _________ 45 _____ 12 ______________ 86.5 NCForecaster89 ________ 29.0 ____________________15 7 3 ____________16 6 4 _________ 47 _____ 12 ______________88.0 RJay ___________________ 29.0 ____________________ 16 9 4 ___________ 15 6 4 _________ 43 _____ 12 ______________ 84.0 Julian Colton ___________ 28.5 ____________________ 15 9 4 ___________ 18 8 5 _________ 42 _____ 12 ______________ 82.5 A few Univ b n __________ 28.0 ____________________ 14 9 3 ___________ 15 7 3 _________ 46 _____ 12 ______________ 86.0 yotaman _______________ 24.0 ____________________ 13 5 2 ___________ 15 6 4 _________ 43 _____ 12 ______________ 79.0 Stebo __________________ 20.5 ____________________ 14 6 3 ___________ 15 6 4 _________ 48 _____ 12 ______________ 80.5 _________________________________________________________________ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Smith Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 As of October 28th, October had scored 4/1/0 and the seasonal count was 16/6/3. (edit, on 30th STS Rebekah was named so now we are at 5/1/0 and seasonal 17/6/3. (edit, in mid-November Sebastien was named so now the seasonal count is 18/6/3. There is some chance that Sebastien will briefly become a marginal hurricane. The previous alternate scoring for Nov-Dec 0/0/0 is changed to 1/1/0 with the main scoring table continuing to he based on 1/0/0.) Scoring for October is out of ten points maximum. The October scores can be seen in the table below which adds in all other months scored to date, your current seasonal score if November verifies at 1/0/0 and your Nov-Dec score (out of 2 points) if that happens. Nov-Dec error deductions are half the rate for most months, like June and July. You might end up scoring higher if you have a different forecast from 1/0/0 in Nov-Dec and that verifies instead. Table 2 below the main table showed the same thing for 0/0/0 outcomes. As of Nov 20 it was changed to the now relevant 1/1/0 outcome. (edit, this part has been resolved now) ... But keep in mind that October might not be a done deal yet as there is a 20% chance shown for the mid-Atlantic low (which is now Rebekah) and there could always be something popping up in the Caribbean. It would have to be named by Nov 1 03z to get onto the October count though. Provisional scoring for 2019 Hurricane / tropical storm forecast contest Scoring now assumes 5/1/0 the final count for October, 1/0/0 for Nov-Dec and 18/6/3 the seasonal count. This table will be adjusted if necessary going forward. FORECASTER ________ season __ Jun __ Jul __ Aug __ Sep __ Oct __ N-D ___ months (max 50)___TOTAL (max 100) Ineedsnow ____________ 48 ______ 2.5 __ 5.5 __ 12.0 __ 13.0 __ 9.0 __ 1.5 ___ 43.5 _______________ 91.5 __ Contest normal _____ 44 ______ 3.5 __ 5.5 __ 10.0 __ 13.0 __ 5.0 __ 1.5 ___ 38.5 _______________ 82.5 snowlover2 ____________46 ______ 3.5 __ 4.0 __ 11.0 __ 13.0 __ 3.0 __ 1.5 ___ 36.0 _______________ 82.0 North Arlington 101 ____46 ______ 3.5 __ 4.5 __ 11.0 __ 12.0 __ 3.0 __ 2.0 ___ 36.0 _______________ 82.0 hlcater ________________ 42 ______ 3.5 __ 6.0 __ 10.0 __ 12.0 __ 6.0 __ 2.0 ___ 39.5 _______________ 81.5 NCforecaster89 _______ 44 ______ 3.5 __ 5.5 __ 11.0 ___ 9.0 __ 6.0 __ 2.0 ___ 37.0 _______________ 81.0 __ consensus __________43 ______ 3.5 __ 5.5 __ 11.0 __ 12.0 __ 3.0 __ 2.0 ___ 37.0 _______________ 80.0 stormlover74 __________41 ______ 4.0 __ 5.0 __ 10.0 __ 12.0 __ 6.0 __ 2.0 ___39.0 _______________ 80.0 __ NHC (high end) _____ 40 ______ 3.5 __ 5.5 __ 10.0 __ 12.0 __ 5.0 __ 1.5 ___ 37.5 _______________ 77.5 cyclonic fury __________ 39 ______ 4.0 __ 5.5 __ 10.0 __ 12.0 __ 4.0 __ 2.0 ___ 37.5 _______________ 76.5 RJay __________________ 41 ______ 3.5 __ 5.5 ___ 8.0 __ 12.0 __ 3.0 __ 2.0 ___ 34.0 _______________ 75.0 Julian Colton __________ 38 ______ 4.0 __ 5.5 ___ 9.0 __ 10.0 __ 5.0 __ 1.0 ___ 34.5 _______________ 72.5 __ CSU (June fcst) _____ 34 ______ 3.5 __ 5.5 __ 11.0 __ 12.0 __ 4.0 __1.5 ___ 37.5 _______________ 71.5 yoda __________________ 33 ______ 3.5 __ 6.0 __ 10.0 __ 10.0 __ 7.0 __ 1.5 ___ 38.0 _______________ 71.0 A few Univ b n _________ 34 ______ 3.5 __ 5.5 ___ 9.0 __ 10.0 __ 3.0 __ 2.0 ___ 33.0 _______________ 67.0 Stebo _________________ 40 ______ 3.5 __ 4.0 __ 11.0 ___ 2.0 __ 3.0 __ 2.0 ___ 25.5 _______________ 65.5 Roger Smith ___________ 27 ______ 3.0 __ 6.0 ___ 8.0 __ 14.0 __ 5.0 __ 2.0 ___ 38.0 _______________ 65.0 __ NHC (median) ______ 29 ______ 3.5 __ 5.5 __ 11.0 ___ 9.0 __ 3.0 __ 1.5 ___ 33.5 _______________ 62.5 yotaman ______________ 33 ______ 3.5 __ 5.5 __ 11.0 ___ 4.0 __ 3.0 __ 2.0 ___ 29.0 _______________ 62.0 (Alternate version for Nov-Dec 1/1/0 and seasonal 18/7/3) FORECASTER ________ season __ Jun __ Jul __ Aug __ Sep __ Oct __ N-D ___ months (max 50)___TOTAL (max 100) Ineedsnow ____________ 49 ______ 2.5 __ 5.5 __ 12.0 __ 13.0 __ 9.0 __ 1.0 ___ 43.0 _______________ 92.0 __ Contest normal _____ 47 ______ 3.5 __ 5.5 __ 10.0 __ 13.0 __ 5.0 __ 1.0 ___ 37.5 _______________ 84.5 snowlover2 ____________47 ______ 3.5 __ 4.0 __ 11.0 __ 13.0 __ 3.0 __ 1.0 ___ 35.5 _______________ 82.5 North Arlington 101 ____47 ______ 3.5 __ 4.5 __ 11.0 __ 12.0 __ 3.0 __ 1.5 ___ 35.5 _______________ 82.5 hlcater ________________ 43 ______ 3.5 __ 6.0 __ 10.0 __ 12.0 __ 6.0 __ 1.5 ___ 39.0 _______________ 82.0 NCforecaster89 _______ 45 ______ 3.5 __ 5.5 __ 11.0 ___ 9.0 __ 6.0 __ 1.5 ___ 36.5 _______________ 81.5 __ consensus __________44 ______ 3.5 __ 5.5 __ 11.0 __ 12.0 __ 3.0 __ 1.5 ___ 36.5 _______________ 80.5 __ NHC (high end) _____ 42 ______ 3.5 __ 5.5 __ 10.0 __ 12.0 __ 5.0 __ 1.0 ___ 37.0 _______________ 79.0 stormlover74 __________39 ______ 4.0 __ 5.0 __ 10.0 __ 12.0 __ 6.0 __ 1.0 ___38.5 _______________ 77.5 RJay __________________ 44 ______ 3.5 __ 5.5 ___ 8.0 __ 12.0 __ 3.0 __ 1.5 ___ 33.5 _______________ 77.5 Julian Colton __________ 41 ______ 4.0 __ 5.5 ___ 9.0 __ 10.0 __ 5.0 __ 1.5 ___ 35.0 _______________ 76.0 cyclonic fury __________ 38 ______ 4.0 __ 5.5 __ 10.0 __ 12.0 __ 4.0 __ 1.5 ___ 37.0 _______________ 75.0 yoda __________________ 34 ______ 3.5 __ 6.0 __ 10.0 __ 10.0 __ 7.0 __ 1.0 ___ 37.5 _______________ 71.5 Roger Smith ___________ 33 ______ 3.0 __ 6.0 ___ 8.0 __ 14.0 __ 5.0 __ 1.5 ___ 37.5 _______________ 70.5 __ CSU (June fcst) _____ 33 ______ 3.5 __ 5.5 __ 11.0 __ 12.0 __ 4.0 __1.0 ___ 37.0 _______________ 70.0 A few Univ b n _________ 37 ______ 3.5 __ 5.5 ___ 9.0 __ 10.0 __ 3.0 __ 1.5 ___ 32.5 _______________ 69.5 Stebo _________________ 44 ______ 3.5 __ 4.0 __ 11.0 ___ 2.0 __ 3.0 __ 1.5 ___ 25.0 _______________ 64.0 yotaman ______________ 36 ______ 3.5 __ 5.5 __ 11.0 ___ 4.0 __ 3.0 __ 1.0 ___ 28.0 _______________ 64.0 __ NHC (median) ______ 28 ______ 3.5 __ 5.5 __ 11.0 ___ 9.0 __ 3.0 __ 1.0 ___ 33.0 _______________ 61.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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