DanLarsen34 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Thought I’d get a thread going on this in the forum. We’ve got an enhanced risk across MS and AL today. Damaging winds appear to be the most significant threat within the ongoing QLCS. However, SPC has mentioned the potential for significant tornadoes too, both within the line and with any warm sector supercell development ahead of the line. SPC has 10% hatched tornado probabilities across the aforementioned states. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangeburgwx Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, DanLarsen34 said: Thought I’d get a thread going on this in the forum. We’ve got an enhanced risk across MS and AL today. Damaging winds appear to be the most significant threat within the ongoing QLCS. However, SPC has mentioned the potential for significant tornadoes too, both within the line and with any warm sector supercell development ahead of the line. SPC has 10% hatched tornado probabilities across the aforementioned states. Even with just a 10% chance, downdrafts and hail are going to be a major problem and combined with heavy flooding, it will be a mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanLarsen34 Posted April 18, 2019 Author Share Posted April 18, 2019 First tornado watch of the day. 60-40 probabilities for LA and Western MS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanLarsen34 Posted April 18, 2019 Author Share Posted April 18, 2019 Keep an eye on the convection out ahead of the main line. Definitely some cellular looking activity already popping up. This cell west of Baton Rouge looks promising. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araqiel Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 High UH track across the MS/AL border on the latest HRRR lines up nicely with what appears to be a boundary on visible sat (look at the bubbling cumulus to the south vs waves to the north) - was a similar example earlier on the LA/MS border that's now cloud-obscured, my post in the Central/Western forum thread for this event has the images for that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanLarsen34 Posted April 18, 2019 Author Share Posted April 18, 2019 SPC’s mid-day report mentions they considered a tornado driven moderate risk, but held off for now because of a lack of a strong signal in UH on the HREF. https://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/outlook/day1otlk.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araqiel Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Looks like the low has trended further south in the last few HRRR runs - now centred over southern rather than northern MS by 00Z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrgjeff Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Frankly I'm shocked SPC would use UH tracks as a tie breaker, but the text is right there. That said, I like punting MDT today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowjimmy73 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Day 2 update https://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/outlook/day2otlk.html not looking good for southside hopefully it is well after school dismissals or perhaps they should give the day off they took away back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan1234 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Quite frankly, the SPC wording isn’t all that doomsday like. They mention a few tornadoes with an enhanced wind threat. It looks like today is the worst of this 3 day outbreak. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solak Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 NWS SPCVerified account @NWSSPC 5m5 minutes ago 4/18 12:50 PM CDT: Looking ahead to the severe risk for tomorrow: Severe thunderstorms are expected from parts of Florida into the Mid-Atlantic on Friday with scattered damaging winds and a few tornadoes possible. #flwx #gawx #scwx #ncwx #vawx #mdwx ...Northern FL...Eastern GA...Carolinas...VA... A line of storms, possibly severe, will be ongoing Friday morning across central GA into the Florida Panhandle along the cold front. Strong winds veering with height will favor supercells embedded within the line producing damaging wind or tornadoes with dewpoints in the 68-70 F range. This line will likely remain severe into southeast GA into early afternoon, with a gradual decrease in threat with southward extent into FL. Heating will occur ahead of the frontal line, leading to an axis of 1000-1500 J/kg MLCAPE from FL to southern VA. Given the track of the upper low, there will not be much cooling aloft ahead of the cold front, leading to less favorable lapse rates aloft and marginal instability. Still, sufficient levels of instability will be attained given very strong southerly deep-layer mean winds and low-level shear to support supercells within the line. Swaths of damaging wind and a few tornadoes are expected as storms move rapidly northeastward during the day, mainly from GA into VA. More isolated severe activity is expected across WV and PA, where wind profiles will also be strong but instability weak. However, daytime heating and steepening of low-level lapse rates may support at least shallow severe storms, perhaps a supercell. ...MAXIMUM RISK BY HAZARD... Tornado: 5% - Slight Wind: 30% - Enhanced Hail: 15% - Slight 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowjimmy73 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Just now, ryan1234 said: Quite frankly, the SPC wording isn’t all that doomsday like. They mention a few tornadoes with an enhanced wind threat. It looks like today worst of this 3 day outbreak. .here in danville, the winds alone would cause a huge issue with how wet its been for the last 6 months. add in flooding potential and we are in it big time. we still have areas from michael that are nowhere near repaired and ,the runoffs would cause big issues. Just around our neighborhood we have street still missing chunks and drainage culverts and creeks not repaired to where they were before michael came thru. the last two bouts of rain have even caused local mudslides and power outages...it wont take much up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solak Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Brad PanovichVerified account @wxbrad 1h1 hour ago Looking at the tornado parameters for tomorrow they certainly are increasing east of I-77. There are lots of small changes that can increase or decrease the threat and location of the threat. This is why you need to stay weather aware as storms form and move in tomorrow. #ncwx 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araqiel Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 19 minutes ago, nrgjeff said: Frankly I'm shocked SPC would use UH tracks as a tie breaker, but the text is right there. That said, I like punting MDT today. Especially when the HRRR has been showing some decent UH tracks today - guess the other HREF members didn’t agree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangeburgwx Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 ...THERE IS AN ENHANCED RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS FROM NORTHERN FLORIDA INTO THE MID ATLANTIC... ...SUMMARY... Severe thunderstorms are expected from the Florida into the Mid-Atlantic on Friday with damaging winds and a few tornadoes possible. ...Synopsis... An upper low will deepen as it pivots northeast out of MS/AL across eastern TN/KY, with a leading midlevel speed max in excess of 100 kt. Meanwhile a cold front will strengthen and surge eastward across GA and the western Carolinas during the afternoon while 60s F dewpoints are maintained to the east. Shear profiles will be strong, with 50+ kt southerly 850 mb winds aiding potential damaging winds or tornadoes throughout the day. ...Northern FL...Eastern GA...Carolinas...VA... A line of storms, possibly severe, will be ongoing Friday morning across central GA into the Florida Panhandle along the cold front. Strong winds veering with height will favor supercells embedded within the line producing damaging wind or tornadoes with dewpoints in the 68-70 F range. This line will likely remain severe into southeast GA into early afternoon, with a gradual decrease in threat with southward extent into FL. Heating will occur ahead of the frontal line, leading to an axis of 1000-1500 J/kg MLCAPE from FL to southern VA. Given the track of the upper low, there will not be much cooling aloft ahead of the cold front, leading to less favorable lapse rates aloft and marginal instability. Still, sufficient levels of instability will be attained given very strong southerly deep-layer mean winds and low-level shear to support supercells within the line. Swaths of damaging wind and a few tornadoes are expected as storms move rapidly northeastward during the day, mainly from GA into VA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan1234 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Did everyone fall asleep on here? Large and extremely dangerous PDS tornado near Jackson! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackstraw Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Yeah nws in Jackson is sheltering in place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowjimmy73 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Just now, Jackstraw said: Yeah nws in Jackson is sheltering in place totally unrelated to this post but.... tomorrow in southside va, we will be playing "oh the dreadful wind and the rain" and singing " if the thunder dont get ya, then the lightning will..." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solak Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 2019/04/18 4:40 PM iembot 2 ESE Clinton [Hinds Co, MS] FIRE DEPT/RESCUE reports TORNADO at 2:43 PM CDT -- CARS FLIPPED IN WALMART PARKING LOT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRW Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 A A Severe line of storms is forecast to come through NC/SC/FL/GA Friday. Some of them could produce a few tornadoes. East of I-77 I am seeing increasing helicity values in SE NC. A few supercells may form along the line. I really want to see a tornado this time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshM Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 We already have a thread on tomorrows potential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solak Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 All the regional forecast offices have pretty much the same wording, other than the timing of the showers/storms. In addition to the aforementioned pre-frontal QLCS likely to be ongoing over the srn Appalachians, a plume of WAA-driven convection streaming nwd from the Gulf Stream Atlantic will likely also be ongoing over the NC Sandhills/Coastal Plain vicinity Fri morning. Destabilization via advective processes may offset a lack of early day diabatic heating owing to widespread low overcast, which may contribute to the realization of around 1000 J/kg of MLCAPE there through 15Z. Already strong, and strengthening deep layer flow would favor some organization with this even early day activity, including some rotating updrafts and risk of a brief/weak spin up. There may then be a brief lull in that morning activity that will subsequently continue newd and out of cntl NC, followed by scattered cellular development over the Piedmont, immediately ahead of what will likely be a strengthening QLCS from the early day convection initially over the srn Appalachians. All severe hazards would accompany any such scattered, discrete cells ahead of the QLCS, in an environment characterized by strengthening environmental shear/ lengthening hodographs, aided by both the strengthening wind fields aloft and increasingly backed surface flow in the warm sector. The QLCS will then pose a risk of widespread 35-50 kt winds, locally up to 60-65 kts, and a few mesovortices/tornadoes. Additionally, forecast environmental parameters suggest the potential for a significant tornado. Precipitable water values are forecast to be near 1.7" - around a monthly record high and 3-4 SD above climo. So while basin average rainfall amounts of one to two inches are anticipated, the unusually high PWAT values and related IVT courtesy of both that excessive moisture and a similarly anomalous LLJ, will favor convective rainfall rates, and amounts in especially urban areas, that may near- exceed 1-2 FFG values over at least the NC Piedmont. A short-fused FFA may consequently be needed, though it was the collective decision by adjacent offices to hold off on issuance at this time. Lastly, warm sector winds may reach Advisory criteria outside of convection, but since this appears to be similar to most of our WAA wind regimes in that it will be sensitive to diabatic and mesoscale influences (clouds/early day convection), such issuance will similarly be passed to subsequent shifts as those details emerge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solak Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 The Eastern part of NC could see 2 rounds of storms tomorrow. HWO - An isolated strong to severe thunderstorm will be possible Friday morning through early afternoon, mainly between 10 AM and 1 PM. A greater risk for severe thunderstorms will exists between 3 PM and 10 PM. The main severe weather hazards will be damaging straight-line winds, large hail, torrential downpours, and a few tornadoes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solak Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 From BMX Concern is growing for areas along and south of Interstate 85 from Montgomery to the AL/GA state line. This is where SBCAPE values have the best chance of reaching the 1000-1400 J/kg range before storms arrive. If this amount of instability is realized, effective storm relative helicity values of 400-500 m2/s2 will support a potential for strong tornadoes (EF2 intensity). 0-6 km shear vectors are supportive of a mixed mode of supercells and bowing line segments as the event unfolds overnight. Due to low confidence, we will refrain from messaging the potential for strong tornadoes in our products at this time and continue to monitor mesoscale trends. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Solak Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 NWS RaleighVerified account @NWSRaleigh 21m21 minutes ago Powerful low pressure will bring an enhanced risk of severe storms to all of central NC from Friday morning through Friday evening, with damaging winds, large hail, deadly lightning, & tornadoes possible. There is also a risk of flash flooding in areas where storms train. #ncwx 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LithiaWx Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Going to be a fun night. Storms should rock through when everyone is sleeping in ATL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LithiaWx Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Will be fun : from NWS Batten down the hatches! Appears the line of strong to severe storms is moving faster than expected into western GA. Could arrive into Polk, Haralson, Carroll and Heard Counties shortly after 10 PM. Be prepared for damaging winds, very heavy rain and frequent lightning. URGENT - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED Severe Thunderstorm Watch Number 85 NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK 820 PM EDT Thu Apr 18 2019 The NWS Storm Prediction Center has issued a * Severe Thunderstorm Watch for portions of Eastern Alabama Western Georgia * Effective this Thursday night and Friday morning from 820 PM until 300 AM EDT. * Primary threats include... Scattered damaging wind gusts to 70 mph likely Isolated large hail events to 1 inch in diameter possible A tornado or two possible SUMMARY...A line of intense showers and thunderstorms will track eastward across the watch area this evening, posing a risk of locally damaging wind gusts. The severe thunderstorm watch area is approximately along and 60 statute miles east and west of a line from 45 miles east northeast of Huntsville AL to 50 miles south southeast of Columbus GA. For a complete depiction of the watch see the associated watch outline update (WOUS64 KWNS WOU5). PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... REMEMBER...A Severe Thunderstorm Watch means conditions are favorable for severe thunderstorms in and close to the watch area. Persons in these areas should be on the lookout for threatening weather conditions and listen for later statements and possible warnings. Severe thunderstorms can and occasionally do produce tornadoes. && OTHER WATCH INFORMATION...CONTINUE...WW 83...WW 84... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LithiaWx Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Probabilities : Click for Complete Product Text. Tornadoes Probability of 2 or more tornadoes Low (20%) Probability of 1 or more strong (EF2-EF5) tornadoes Low (5%) Wind Probability of 10 or more severe wind events Mod (60%) Probability of 1 or more wind events > 65 knots Low (20%) Hail Probability of 10 or more severe hail events Low (20%) Probability of 1 or more hailstones > 2 inches Low (10%) Combined Severe Hail/Wind Probability of 6 or more combined severe hail/wind events High (80%) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan1234 Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 It had speed up, the question is if the mesoscale features cause it to fluctuate in speed. I feel like it will.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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