cyclone77 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Hoosier said: 74 with plenty of sun. Amazing turn from 2 days ago. Yeah, can't remember a time previously going from snow to mid-upper 70s two days later. MLI may have tapped 80. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis1729 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Hoosier said: 74 with plenty of sun. Amazing turn from 2 days ago. Yeah, it's crazy. I don't ever remember seeing fresh/white snow with temps in the 70s, until today. There are still a few very small fresh piles of snow from 2 days ago (we got about 5" here). Sometimes you'll see piles of dirty/black snow left over from the winter when you get a really warm day in mid-late March...but it's extremely rare for us to see this drastic of a warm up after a significant snowfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 8 hours ago, weatherbo said: The northern lakes area has been fairly system deficient for a while (prior to this winter). Nice ones from time to time, like this time last April where 2.5' fell here, but as a whole if you weren't in a lake effect sweet spot, winter's haven't been that great... extended thaws the past couple winter's too. This winter, like you said, most of the UP had lake belt depths, and lake belt depths started looking like mountain depths. Hard to forgive the 8" in March, tho. I mean, I could change my grade to an A- maybe, but it's the equivalent of acing the whole school year, then skipping the exam. I honestly had begun to think that outside of the famed lake belts northern Michigan winters were overdramatized because of how relatively insignificant the snowpack was. This year, I see what's possible lol. As a side note, I do think it's funny when people in the North mock downstate winters. It's common sense that winters are harsher the further North you go, but sometimes the difference is greatly exaggerated other than of course the snowbelt. I especially loved when I was up North during a snowstorm in Feb how none of the locals went out (other than snowmobilers) for a couple inches of snow lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, beavis1729 said: Yeah, it's crazy. I don't ever remember seeing fresh/white snow with temps in the 70s before. There are still a few very small fresh piles of snow from 2 days ago (we got about 5" here). Sometimes you'll see piles of dirty/black snow left over from the winter when you get a really warm day in mid-late March...but it's extremely rare for us to see this drastic of a warm up after a significant snowfall. I remember this after the April 6, 2009 snowstorm. The piles did not have a chance to get dirty lol so they were white among emerald green grass and very warm temperatures. I also remember the last snowfall of the historic 2013-14 season (Apr 14/15) was the opposite effect. We finally got a warm day, temperature soared into the 70s then plummeted with snow by evening. It was the 1st day I could recall a high over 70ﾟ with measurable snowfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted April 17, 2019 Author Share Posted April 17, 2019 3 hours ago, beavis1729 said: Yeah, it's crazy. I don't ever remember seeing fresh/white snow with temps in the 70s, until today. There are still a few very small fresh piles of snow from 2 days ago (we got about 5" here). Sometimes you'll see piles of dirty/black snow left over from the winter when you get a really warm day in mid-late March...but it's extremely rare for us to see this drastic of a warm up after a significant snowfall. Today's high at ORD was 73. According to my research, this is the first time on record that Chicago has had a 4"+ calendar day snow and a high of 70+ within 2 days before or after. The closest example seems to be April 1967, which did it in opposite fashion to this year with the warmth coming first. 4/21/1967 (an infamous day in northeast IL weather history) had a high of 74 and 4/23/1967 had 3.1" snow. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King James Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Strong gusts this evening man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 First 80 degree day today at MLI, as they hit 81. Made it to 79 here. With dews pushing 60 earlier it felt pretty springlike. The outside air has a different scent to it now too, with trees pollinating, etc. May get a brief downpour as Iowa's sloppy seconds move through in the next hour or so. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye_wx Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 A light storm moved through here this evening. Radar showed a decent red cell, but it was kinda meh. I picked up 0.28" of rain. It has been generally boring since the snow season came to a screeching halt in February, so I'll take what I can get. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackstraw Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 KIND's short term disscussion describes it pretty well around here... miserable lol.... .SHORT TERM /Friday through Saturday Night/... Issued at 431 AM EDT Thu Apr 18 2019 Miserable might be the best term to describe the bulk of the weather expected through the short term period. The approaching upper trough today will amplify Friday with an upper low closing off over the Tennessee Valley. As this feature wobbles into the Ohio Valley through late Saturday. The aforementioned surface wave near Cincinnati Friday morning will spin just east of the forecast area in response to the strengthening upper low before both features kick out to the northeast Saturday night. This will place central Indiana on the northwest side of the system throughout much of the period and all but ensures two sloppy days for much of the area. The northwest shift to the track of the upper low in the guidance would suggest continued unsettled weather Friday into Saturday with an increasing likelihood of a renewed period of widespread and steady rainfall likely focused from Friday afternoon through Saturday morning as a persistent mid level deformation axis parks over the region and interacts with a strong E/NE low level flow pulling around the northern side of the system. Still discrepancies between where specifically the axis of steadiest rainfall will set up...but higher pops are warranted for much of the area late Friday through the first half of Saturday. While precip water values will fall back...the forcing aloft will compensate and likely enable some locations to pick up potentially an additional inch of rain from Friday afternoon through Saturday. Colder air will continue to advect into the region courtesy of the strong northerly flow that will persist throughout much of the short term. This will produce a period of chilly..raw and otherwise miserable weather conditions Friday into at least the first half of Saturday. The other potential impact is that the boundary layer may cool enough late Friday night and Saturday to support some wet snowflakes mixing in with rain... especially where the mid level forcing is strongest. Surface temperatures will remain well above freezing and rates are not expected to cause any issues whatsoever. But...its the potential for snowflakes on April 20 which will just add to the misery of the weather conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 On 4/16/2019 at 9:37 PM, Hoosier said: Today's high at ORD was 73. According to my research, this is the first time on record that Chicago has had a 4"+ calendar day snow and a high of 70+ within 2 days before or after. The closest example seems to be April 1967, which did it in opposite fashion to this year with the warmth coming first. 4/21/1967 (an infamous day in northeast IL weather history) had a high of 74 and 4/23/1967 had 3.1" snow. Although it did not neatly align on the calendar day, I remember during the historic 2014 Winter the cold continued right into Spring with huge mounds of snow only very slowly melting throughout April. Then on April 13th temperatures soared to 79ﾟand it was an absolute shock to the system. On the 14th morning temperatures shot back up to 71ﾟ, before crashing and snow developed during the evening. 3.2" had fallen by 7 a.m. the 15th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted April 18, 2019 Author Share Posted April 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Jackstraw said: IND's short term disscussion describes it pretty well around here... miserable lol.... .SHORT TERM /Friday through Saturday Night/... Issued at 431 AM EDT Thu Apr 18 2019 Miserable might be the best term to describe the bulk of the weather expected through the short term period. The approaching upper trough today will amplify Friday with an upper low closing off over the Tennessee Valley. As this feature wobbles into the Ohio Valley through late Saturday. The aforementioned surface wave near Cincinnati Friday morning will spin just east of the forecast area in response to the strengthening upper low before both features kick out to the northeast Saturday night. This will place central Indiana on the northwest side of the system throughout much of the period and all but ensures two sloppy days for much of the area. The northwest shift to the track of the upper low in the guidance would suggest continued unsettled weather Friday into Saturday with an increasing likelihood of a renewed period of widespread and steady rainfall likely focused from Friday afternoon through Saturday morning as a persistent mid level deformation axis parks over the region and interacts with a strong E/NE low level flow pulling around the northern side of the system. Still discrepancies between where specifically the axis of steadiest rainfall will set up...but higher pops are warranted for much of the area late Friday through the first half of Saturday. While precip water values will fall back...the forcing aloft will compensate and likely enable some locations to pick up potentially an additional inch of rain from Friday afternoon through Saturday. Colder air will continue to advect into the region courtesy of the strong northerly flow that will persist throughout much of the short term. This will produce a period of chilly..raw and otherwise miserable weather conditions Friday into at least the first half of Saturday. The other potential impact is that the boundary layer may cool enough late Friday night and Saturday to support some wet snowflakes mixing in with rain... especially where the mid level forcing is strongest. Surface temperatures will remain well above freezing and rates are not expected to cause any issues whatsoever. But...its the potential for snowflakes on April 20 which will just add to the misery of the weather conditions. NAM looks to be particularly bullish on snow potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackstraw Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Hoosier said: NAM looks to be particularly bullish on snow potential. Yeah, it's been hanging out with Randle McMurphy. That would be the coup of the decade if that insanity actually happens.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted April 19, 2019 Author Share Posted April 19, 2019 5 hours ago, Jackstraw said: Yeah, it's been hanging out with Randle McMurphy. That would be the coup of the decade if that insanity actually happens.. Will be interested to see 1) if a band of snow materializes and 2) if IND gets in on it. Indy has only had one 1"+ snow from April 20 on, and it wasn't even in April. 2.4" on May 2, 1897. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torchageddon Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 If it weren't for the rain and the WF hanging just south Waterloo UW would've gotten to their 5th first 20ºC YTD on April 18 in 21 years. It was close, 19C. Toronto did reach it. What looked to be an awesome day 4-5 days ago was totally ruined here. I also got no thunderstorms as advertised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwohweather Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 It happened a few years ago here in Toledo. Small band of snow rolled through Masters weekend, dropped 6-10” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frog Town Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 16 hours ago, nwohweather said: It happened a few years ago here in Toledo. Small band of snow rolled through Masters weekend, dropped 6-10” I believe that was around Sunday, April 8 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackstraw Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Now I'm really going to be p^&s$d off if 20 miles SE of me gets 22 inches and I get nada!! Edit: NAM be smoking some Freeway Rick product lol. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwohweather Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 I believe that was around Sunday, April 8 2016Yes sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 18 hours ago, nwohweather said: Yes sir. I remember that. I think Toledo officially had 8". We only got 0.3" here and I remember a friend in Toledo was posting pictures of broken tree limbs on Facebook. We did get an inch the next day lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackstraw Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Just downright stubborn lol .... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis1729 Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Very dry today. ORD is 61/12, RH 14%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackstraw Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 If, if, if surface temps were about 5 degrees cooler we might have gotten 20 inches. That trowal has been on top of us for 14 freakin hours with freezing levels all the way down to 925 mb. Ice cold rain since 4am non-stop . I can see why the naive NAM was fooled lol. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Full sun, light winds, temps near 70, and the smell of fresh cut grass meshing with smoldering charcoal. Makes up for last weekend's snow and cold lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackstraw Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 hour ago, cyclone77 said: Full sun, light winds, temps near 70, and the smell of fresh cut grass meshing with smoldering charcoal. Makes up for last weekend's snow and cold lol. Rub it in lol. We've had 3 miserable days of cold rain and wind. Frost, wind then temps from morning 30's to mid 60's by late tomorrow afternoon, 70 on Monday and then rain Monday night thru Thursday. Light at the end of the tunnel is for the first time in I don't know how long we might get 3 straight days after that dry and sunny, over a weekend no less! We are definitely overdue for a reasonable weather stretch. I'll take boring for a week right now lol. It's just not fare you get an epic winter and then a spring to boot. Jealous? Hell ya! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Very dry today. ORD is 61/12, RH 14%.Speaking of.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Martin Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwohweather Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Definitely a nice week ahead for NW Ohio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted April 21, 2019 Author Share Posted April 21, 2019 Temp is already up over 30 degrees from the morning low of 34. Going to be a massive final diurnal swing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, Hoosier said: Temp is already up over 30 degrees from the morning low of 34. Going to be a massive final diurnal swing. Yeah very impressive recovery to be sure. MLI bottomed out at 41, and is already at 77. Mid 80s look possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 11 hours ago, cyclone77 said: Yeah very impressive recovery to be sure. MLI bottomed out at 41, and is already at 77. Mid 80s look possible. 84 at MLI for a 43 degree swing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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