BuffaloWeather Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Finally getting some nicer weather around here. Has been a brutal last few weeks. Really hoping we can get some sustained summer weather going soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NegativeEPO Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 I'm starting to think this garbage, relentless, cold and wet pattern is related to the solar minimum. We're entering a deep solar minimum. Going to have to wait a few years at very least for this pattern to break. Might not see a warm year again until maybe the mid 2020s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 4 hours ago, NegativeEPO said: I'm starting to think this garbage, relentless, cold and wet pattern is related to the solar minimum. We're entering a deep solar minimum. Going to have to wait a few years at very least for this pattern to break. Might not see a warm year again until maybe the mid 2020s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Loving the next 2 weeks on the GFS. Looks like a steady supply of below normal temps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Just gotta laugh how a -NAO was so hard to come by last winter, but has been so prevalent in the past couple months. I think the correlation with temps does become less as you get into summer, meaning that a -NAO is not as likely to result in below average temps (for example, 2012 was a -NAO summer). This is where looking at actual maps/patterns helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheeselandSkies Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 5 hours ago, Hoosier said: (for example, 2012 was a -NAO summer). As they say in Ireland..."Whale oil beef hooked!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Can’t wait for OK/TX to have some more setups while the Midwest continues to sleep through peak season. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTXYankee Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 On 6/9/2019 at 2:21 PM, Hoosier said: Just gotta laugh how a -NAO was so hard to come by last winter, but has been so prevalent in the past couple months. I think the correlation with temps does become less as you get into summer, meaning that a -NAO is not as likely to result in below average temps (for example, 2012 was a -NAO summer). This is where looking at actual maps/patterns helps. A 2012 summer can start at anytime now. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Was looking up some 100 degree stats for Chicago. It has been about 7 years since ORD hit 100. If 2019 fails to produce a 100 degree day, it would be the longest stretch without one since the 1960s (1961-1970 had none). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye_wx Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 On 6/10/2019 at 11:54 AM, hlcater said: Can’t wait for OK/TX to have some more setups while the Midwest continues to sleep through peak season. Yeah. While the weather has been pleasant and excellent for the garden, it's tough to watch our peak storm month waste away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillsdaleMIWeather Posted June 12, 2019 Author Share Posted June 12, 2019 Happy GFS "Upgrade" Day! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Coincidentally the Euro just got an upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 8 hours ago, HillsdaleMIWeather said: Happy GFS "Upgrade" Day! I seem to remember that the GFS has had some problems in the summertime with dew points too high (75-80 degrees) in generally moist time periods in the Midwest. I wonder if this upgrade may improve that somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis1729 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Interesting that ORD has only had 4 days with high temps of 82+ so far in 2019, with zero days of 84+. Not sure what the average # of 82+ days is for ORD by June 13th in any given year, but it has to be significantly higher that what we've seen in 2019. Normal high this time of year is 80, but it ramps up quickly to 85 by the end of June. Strangely enough - despite all of the whining about how chilly it has been this Spring, the overall mean temp for the period April 1st - June 13th at ORD has been essentially normal. Just not a lot of excessively cool or warm days. To me, this apparent contrast illustrates that it's still fairly early in the warm season for NE IL, given the lake influence. I generally consider "consistent summer" at ORD to be June 10th - Sep 10th, as opposed to May 15th - Sep 10th in other areas of IL away from the lake. No complaints from me; even with the excessive rainfall, temps have been fairly pleasant in May/June so far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 1 hour ago, beavis1729 said: Interesting that ORD has only had 4 days with high temps of 82+ so far in 2019, with zero days of 84+. Not sure what the average # of 82+ days is for ORD by June 13th in any given year, but it has to be significantly higher that what we've seen in 2019. Normal high this time of year is 80, but it ramps up quickly to 85 by the end of June. Strangely enough - despite all of the whining about how chilly it has been this Spring, the overall mean temp for the period April 1st - June 13th at ORD has been essentially normal. Just not a lot of excessively cool or warm days. To me, this apparent contrast illustrates that it's still fairly early in the warm season for NE IL, given the lake influence. I generally consider "consistent summer" at ORD to be June 10th - Sep 10th, as opposed to May 15th - Sep 10th in other areas of IL away from the lake. No complaints from me; even with the excessive rainfall, temps have been fairly pleasant in May/June so far. The average number of 82+ days by now is about 10 days. Rough and dirty estimate... could be off by a day or so. In any case, definitely running behind the average for those days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NegativeEPO Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 17 hours ago, Chinook said: I seem to remember that the GFS has had some problems in the summertime with dew points too high (75-80 degrees) in generally moist time periods in the Midwest. I wonder if this upgrade may improve that somehow. This new GFS is terrible. Has a very severe cold bias that they STILL haven’t fixed yet for some reason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowcaine Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Looks like Toronto is on track to finish the first 6 months of 2019 without ever hitting 80 degrees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 7 hours ago, snowcaine said: Looks like Toronto is on track to finish the first 6 months of 2019 without ever hitting 80 degrees So let's say that happens. How rare would it be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowcaine Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 20 hours ago, Hoosier said: So let's say that happens. How rare would it be? A similar situation... about 3 times in the last 35 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King James Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Been a low haze/fog with this chill for a couple days now. Yesterday evening was very noticeable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Welcome to July... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchaumburgStormer Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Chicago Storm said: Welcome to July... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 4 hours ago, Chicago Storm said: Welcome to July... Well, good news is that can't trend much worse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackstraw Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Hoosier said: Well, good news is that can't trend much worse. Depends on your interpretation of worse lol. I'll take it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis1729 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 While the relatively cool weather continues here, the southern plains are baking. Laredo TX hit 109 yesterday, with a peak hourly heat index of 116 (temp 107, dew 69). And, today will set a daily record high min of 83 (old record 82 in 2011). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 16 hours ago, Chicago Storm said: Welcome to July... Cromartie will not be happy to see this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowless in Carrollton Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Is there any time of year where sunshine dominates in the midwest? Seems like winter, spring, and summer is primarily cloudy and rainy. Maybe fall ? I'm convinced that the midwest is even cloudier than the Pacific northwest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxMatt21 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 35 minutes ago, Snowless in Carrollton said: Is there any time of year where sunshine dominates in the midwest? Seems like winter, spring, and summer is primarily cloudy and rainy. Maybe fall ? I'm convinced that the midwest is even cloudier than the Pacific northwest. I grew up on the Kitsap Peninsula, just west of Seattle. All 18 years of my child/early adulthood! It rarely rains in the summer. We would get the occasional onshore flow bringing us clouds off the Pacific, and maybe a bit of drizzle, but there is sunshine galore from about May-October. Not only does Fort Wayne (where I live now) get more annual rain than Seattle, it is far cloudier. Fall in Indiana, however, has proven to be the most reliable and pleasant of seasons. Lots of sun, stunning color, and an occasional severe threat to keep things interesting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 I haven't checked but anecdotally it seems like it's been cloudier than average for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Snowless in Carrollton said: Is there any time of year where sunshine dominates in the midwest? Seems like winter, spring, and summer is primarily cloudy and rainy. Maybe fall ? I'm convinced that the midwest is even cloudier than the Pacific northwest. The % Sun number measures the percentage of time between sunrise and sunset that sunshine reaches the ground. Total Hours is the average number of sunny hours the city normally has in a year. Clear Days is the average number of days annually when cloud covers at most 30 percent of the sky during daylight hours. Hours of sunshine are the means calculated for 1961 to 1990. Indianapolis is the top row of hours and Seattle the bottom. J F M A M J J A S O N D Total 132.1 145.7 178.3 214.8 264.7 287.2 295.2 273.7 232.6 196.6 117.1 102.4 2,440.4 55% Clear Days - 88 69.8 108.8 178.4 207.3 253.7 268.4 312.0 281.4 221.7 142.6 72.7 52.9 2,169.7 47% Clear Days - 58 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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