Spring 2019 Banter Thread

[bluewave]

Impressive range of extremes on the Plains last few days.

https://mobile.twitter.com/iembot_abr/status/1116751907924660225

Del Rio has hit 107 degrees! April 10th is the 11th earliest date for the first 100 degree day of the year. In addition, 107 not only breaks the daily record high temperature of 102 set back in 1963, but also the monthly record high temperature for the entire month of April.

https://www.weather.gov/abr/April112019BlizzardSummary

Snowfall reports below are as of 2 PM CDT April 12, 2019

...72 HOUR SNOWFALL REPORTS...

Location                     Amount    Time/Date       Provider             
Clear Lake                   26.3 in   1000 AM 04/12   COOP                 
Watertown 1 W                25.0 in   0900 AM 04/12   COOP                 
Roscoe                       24.0 in   0700 AM 04/12   COOP                 
Redfield                     24.0 in   1250 PM 04/12   Emergency Mngr
Hayti 1 W                    22.3 in   0800 AM 04/12   COOP         

 

 

 

[bluewave]

https://mobile.twitter.com/NWSChicago/status/1117611205160570886?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet

As of 9 pm, today's official snow total for Chicago (O'hare) was up to 5.3" making it the 2nd snowiest calendar day on record for so late in the season. This missed the record snowiest day for so late in the season by only 1 tenth of an inch! The record is 5.4" back on 4/16/1961

[forkyfork]

nyc is running +3.2 for april so far. so much for that -nao

[bluewave]

22 minutes ago, forkyfork said:

nyc is running +3.2 for april so far. so much for that -nao

Notice how the 500 mb height anomalies aligned almost perfectly with the SST departures. The WAR/SE ridge has become our new default pattern. 

[forkyfork]

how long until the next circulation change?

[LibertyBell]

16 hours ago, bluewave said:

Notice how the 500 mb height anomalies aligned almost perfectly with the SST departures. The WAR/SE ridge has become our new default pattern. 

So we should expect more winters like this until further notice lol.

 

[bluewave]

On 4/15/2019 at 10:49 AM, forkyfork said:

how long until the next circulation change?

Good question. This SST animation says it all.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Climatologist49/status/1117829120316981249

[tim]

...not weather related on this beautiful april morning..but..

LETS GO ISLANDERS !!

on to the second round..

[rclab]

30 minutes ago, tim said:

...not weather related on this beautiful april morning..but..

LETS GO ISLANDERS !!

on to the second round..

May not be weather related but it might answere Forkys question. As always ...

[Stormlover74]

This weather blows

[495weatherguy]

36 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

This weather blows

agreed

awful  55 and cloudy on LI   

[gravitylover]

7 hours ago, Stormlover74 said:

This weather blows

Better than rain.

[bluewave]

Neighborhood slowly sinking in Seaford. They think it’s caused by water flowing underground.

https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2019/04/19/seaford-sinking-homes-long-island/

SEAFORD, N.Y. (CBSNewYork) – Driveways are buckling, backyards are sinking, and garages are sliding off their foundations.

Now homeowners in a Long Island community say they’re stuck paying the price, reportsCBS2’s Jennifer McLogan.

It’s a beautiful residential neighborhood in Long Island, but now more than a dozen homeowners on Bowers Drive and Marilyn Drive believe their backyards, and structures on their properties, are slowly sinking – up to a foot in places.

 

 

[NycStormChaser]

 

[CIK62]

Hurricane buffs might be interested in this:

 

>>>>>>"Florida knew Hurricane Michael was bad. Now, scientists reveal just how strong it was"      (Source:  Miami Herald and others, 4/19/19)

With just a little over a month to the start of hurricane season, scientists have upgraded last year’s beast — Hurricane Michael — from a Category 4 to a rare Category 5.

Michael, which devastated Florida’s Mexico Beach when it made landfall on Oct. 10, becomes the first hurricane to make landfall in the United States as a Cat 5 since Hurricane Andrew brought “destruction at dawn” to South Miami-Dade in August 1992.

This figure, released Friday, represents a 5 mph increase over the operational estimate and nudges Michael into the Category 5 platform on the Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Wind Scale at the time of its landfall.

Michael was responsible for 16 deaths and caused about $25 billion in damage to the U.S. Cuba also was hit by Category 2 winds from Michael.

Michael is only the fourth hurricane to hit the U.S. as a Category 5, according to the hurricane center.

Before Andrew there was Hurricane Camille in 1969, which made landfall at Pass Christian, Mississippi, on Aug. 18, 1969, three days after hitting Cuba as a Category 2.

The Labor Day Hurricane in September 1935, which hit the Florida Keys and particularly wreaked havoc on Islamorada, was the first since records were kept to land in the U.S. as a Cat 5.

Michael is also the strongest hurricane landfall on record in the Florida Panhandle, the hurricane center reported.

The hurricane center’s new analysis also revealed that Michael’s atmospheric pressure, a reliable measure of a storm’s intensity, was at 919 millibars at landfall in Mexico Beach. Meteorologists note that the lower a storm’s central pressure, the higher its winds. Michael’s central pressure at landfall is the third lowest on record for a U. S. hurricane since records began in 1900 — trailing only Camille, which went as low as 900 millibars, and the Labor Day Hurricane of 1935 at 892 millibars.

Andrew in 1992, by comparison, recorded 922 millibars at its lowest reading.
 

 

[bluewave]

https://mobile.twitter.com/bhensonweather/status/1119293305215422465

2018 is the first year on record with Category 5 storms in the Atlantic, East Pacific, Central Pacific, and West Pacific.

https://mobile.twitter.com/burgwx/status/1119242805996597249

With Michael upgraded to a Cat 5, this means 3 consecutive years (2016-2018) had at least 1 category 5 hurricane in the Atlantic basin, the first time since 2003-2005.

[MJO812]

I wish I was in the Midwest or upstate N.Y.

More snow for them

[CIK62]

Live on Staten Island?     Read this article about spending a good part of 1 Billion$$$$ and 4 years time-- for a project no one knows for sure will save the area from a future Sandy.

I am interested too, since this will probably raise the storm water level somewhere else---like CI.    Water seeks its own level.     More waterfront buyouts are probably coming anyway.

https://ny.curbed.com/2019/4/25/18515213/staten-island-usace-seawall-climate-change-photo-essay

[uncle W]

NYC Spring temperature and precipitation...max temperature from 3/1 to 5/31...the 2010's should end up with the warmest decade average temperature...it might end up as the second wettest on record...
year.....ave temp....precip"....max temp......snowfall 3/1 to end...
1869..........47.2......10.15......84......…..............0.8"

1870..........48.6......10.27......86...……...……….12.1"
1871..........52.2......12.61......92...……….………..2.1"
1872..........47.1........8.71......89...……….………..5.1"
1873..........47.1........9.94......87...……….………..0.4"
1874..........45.7......13.13......90...……….………….T
1875..........45.8........7.99......86...………….……28.8"
1876..........47.2......14.88......87...………….……..3.8"
1877..........47.7........9.24......88...………….……..6.5"
1878..........52.3........8.43......84...………….……….0
1879..........50.6........9.76......86...………….……12.8"

1880..........51.5........8.18......96...……..………..12.3"
1881..........48.4........9.96......93...……...……….11.1"
1882..........48.2........8.37......80...………………..3.3"
1883..........47.0........8.03......82...……………….20.6"
1884..........48.5......11.18......86...………………...2.3"
1885..........46.6........4.95......87...………………...4.1"
1886..........50.2......12.08......86...………………...2.0"
1887..........47.5........6.20......87...………………...7.0"
1888..........44.7......13.13......84...……………….22.3"
1889..........51.5......11.00......91...………………...4.0"

1890..........48.3......10.80......81...……………….17.3"
1891..........47.8........8.44......82...………………...2.1"
1892..........47.4........9.73......81...……………….13.0"
1893..........46.7......13.50......85...………………...6.6"
1894..........51.0........7.27......85...………………...1.0"
1895..........49.3........7.59......96...………………...4.0"
1896..........50.6........9.06......92...……………….33.5"
1897..........50.9......10.83......81...………………...3.3"
1898..........50.6......12.75......86...………………...4.5"
1899..........49.9........8.60......88...………………...4.8"

1900..........47.7........9.23......90...………………...5.8"
1901..........47.9......18.52......85...…………………..T
1902..........51.3........9.22......86...………………...6.5"
1903..........54.2........7.97......89...…………………..0
1904..........48.8........9.25......89...………………...5.4"
1905..........50.6........6.60......81...………………...1.8"
1906..........50.1......16.47......90...……………….11.5"
1907..........48.5......11.08......85...……………….19.1"
1908..........52.3......13.16......88...………………...3.5"
1909..........49.1......11.17......83...………………...4.3"

1910..........53.0........7.51......82...………………...1.3"
1911..........48.7........8.12......86...………………...4.0"
1912..........50.1......16.63......89...………………...4.5"
1913..........52.7......15.69......89...………………...2.8"
1914..........49.6......10.43......95...……………….21.5"
1915..........50.1........7.10......92...……………….17.9"
1916..........47.4......11.33......81...……………….28.8"
1917..........47.3......11.00......84...……………….18.2"
1918..........52.7......11.15......91...………………...3.2"
1919..........51.8......12.99......92...………………...2.7"

1920..........48.9......13.26......82...………………...5.3"
1921..........55.2......10.19......89...………………...0.1"
1922..........52.4......11.30......86...………………...3.9"
1923..........49.0........8.37......86...………………...8.1"
1924..........48.5......14.47......75...……………….11.6"
1925..........51.9........9.43......91...…………………..T
1926..........47.7........6.81......83...………………...1.2"
1927..........50.2........8.95......90...………………...0.3"
1928..........48.9........9.73......80...………………...5.7"
1929..........52.6......14.09......93...………………...0.2"

1930..........50.8........7.96......91...…………………..T
1931..........51.0......13.00......93...………………..1.8"
1932..........49.4......11.11......90...………………..0.6"
1933..........51.1......16.46......90...…………….….4.8"
1934..........50.4......13.11......90...………………..8.6"
1935..........51.0........5.06......89...………………..2.0"
1936..........52.5......11.72......92...………………..1.5"
1937..........50.4......10.90......93...………………..2.5"
1938..........52.9........8.96......89...………………..7.1"
1939..........51.1........9.93......96...………………..7.0"

1940..........47.5......17.80......83...………………..7.1"
1941..........52.5........7.70......96...………………19.2"
1942..........54.0........8.78......92...………………..2.7"
1943..........49.6......10.44......89...………………..7.1"
1944..........51.2......11.91......92...………………11.3"
1945..........55.3......11.23......86...………………...T
1946..........54.0......11.44......87...………………...T
1947..........49.4......11.63......86...………………..6.1"
1948..........51.1......14.35......87...………………..4.7"
1949..........53.3........9.49......92...………………..4.2"

1950..........47.9........7.05......82...………………..3.3"
1951..........52.6......12.99......90...………………..2.7"
1952..........52.0......13.83......83...………………..7.4"
1953..........53.6......18.31......90...………………..0.9"
1954..........51.7........9.05......85...………………..0.4"
1955..........53.5........8.32......90...………………..3.6"
1956..........48.1......10.01......89...……………....25.3"
1957..........52.7......10.17......87...………………..5.1"
1958..........50.8......12.58......82...………………16.1"
1959..........53.4........7.01......94...………………..7.3"

1960..........50.0........8.98......87...……………...18.5"
1961..........50.1......12.91......85...………………..1.2"
1962..........53.6........7.23......99...………………..0.2"
1963..........52.8........7.04......86...………………..2.8"
1964..........52.7........8.23......94...………………..6.0"
1965..........52.3........6.97......94...………………..4.0"
1966..........51.3........7.89......85...………………….T
1967..........47.5......13.50......81...……………...17.4"
1968..........52.6......14.67......82...………………..6.1"
1969..........53.8......10.39......97...………………..5.6"

1970..........51.6......11.00......93...………………..4.0"
1971..........50.8......10.99......85...………………..1.7"
1972..........51.1......16.86......86...………………..2.3"
1973..........53.1......16.16......86...………………..0.2"
1974..........52.8......13.88......92...………………..3.5"
1975..........51.3........9.74......93...………………..0.3"
1976..........53.2......10.56......96...………………..4.4"
1977..........55.2......12.87......92...………………..0.6"
1978..........50.7......14.26......90...………………..6.8"
1979..........54.9......14.67......94...………………….T

1980..........53.8......21.00......90...………………..4.6"
1981..........54.4........8.17......87...………………..8.6"
1982..........52.4......10.66......84...……………...10.3"
1983..........52.2......29.15......85...………………..0.8"
1984..........50.1......22.66......85...……………...11.9"
1985..........55.5........9.04......88...………………..0.2"
1986..........55.2........7.07......94...………………….T
1987..........54.1......12.28......97...………………..1.9"
1988..........52.5........9.57......91...………………….T
1989..........52.2......19.43......86...………………..2.5"

1990..........52.9......17.86......91...………………..3.7"
1991..........56.3......11.95......93...………………..0.2"
1992..........50.5........9.86......93...………………..9.4"
1993..........52.9......12.48......92...……………...11.9"
1994..........52.7......13.01......91...………………..8.1"
1995..........52.9........6.39......87...………………….T
1996..........50.7......12.78......96...……………...13.9"
1997..........51.0......11.09......83...………………..1.7"
1998..........54.6......19.07......87...………………..5.0"
1999..........53.0........9.98......89...………………..4.5"

2000..........53.9......11.34......93...………………..1.6"
2001..........52.5......11.32......92...………………..3.8"
2002..........53.6......10.63......96...………………….T
2003..........50.5......11.20......88...………………..7.5"
2004..........54.1......12.87......87...………………..4.8"
2005..........51.1......11.18......87...………………..6.9"
2006..........54.0......10.98......88...………………..1.4"
2007..........51.0......20.28......91...………………..6.0"
2008..........52.5......10.86......84...………………….T
2009..........53.1......11.61......92...………………..8.3"

2010..........57.1......16.69......92...………………….T
2011..........53.7......16.65......89...………………..1.0"
2012..........56.9........9.90......89............………...0
2013..........52.0......12.21......90...………………..7.3"

2014..........51.3......15.89......89...………………..0.1"

2015..........53.6........8.73......88...……………...18.6"

2016..........55.0........7.96......92...………………..0.9"

2017..........52.5......15.47......92...………………..9.7"

2018..........52.2......14.48......92...……………...17.1"

2019...……………………………………...……………..10.4"

1870-79.....48.4......10.50......92...……………….7.2"
1880-89.....48.4........9.31......96...……………….8.9"
1890-99.....49.2........9.86......96...……………….9.0"
1900-09.....50.1......11.27......90...……………….5.8"
1910-19.....50.3......11.20......95...………...……10.5"
1920-29.....50.5......10.66......93...……………….3.6"
1930-39.....51.1......10.82......96...……………….3.6"
1940-49.....51.8......11.48......96...……………….6.2"
1950-59.....51.6......10.93......94...……………….7.2"
1960-69.....51.7........9.78......99...……………….6.2"
1970-79.....52.5......13.10......96...……………….2.4"
1980-89.....53.2......14.90......97...……………….4.1"
1990-99.....52.8......12.45......96...……………….5.8"
2000-09.....52.8......12.23......96...……………….4.0"
2010-18.....53.8......13.11......92...……………….6.5" 2010-19 for snowfall...

1870-
2009..........51.0......11.32......95
1980-
2009..........52.9......13.19......96

Top ten
warmest................coolest...............wettest....................driest
57.1 in 2010.....44.7 in 1888......29.15" in 1983......4.95" in 1885
56.9 in 2012.....45.7 in 1874......22.66" in 1984......5.06" in 1935
56.3 in 1991.....45.8 in 1875......21.00" in 1980......6.20" in 1887
55.5 in 1985.....46.6 in 1885......20.28" in 2007......6.39" in 1995
55.3 in 1945.....46.7 in 1893......19.43" in 1989......6.60" in 1905
55.2 in 1986.....47.0 in 1883......19.07" in 1998......6.81" in 1926
55.2 in 1977.....47.1 in 1873......18.31" in 1953......6.97" in 1965
55.2 in 1921.....47.1 in 1872......17.86" in 1990......7.01" in 1959
55.0 in 2016.....47.2 in 1876......17.80" in 1940......7.04" in 1963
54.9 in 1979.....47.2 in 1869......16.86" in 1972......7.05" in 1950

[bluewave]

Great extension of the existing Jones Beach beach bike path from Field 6 all the way to the West End.

 

 

[Stormlover74]

I feel like I need to light a damn fire

[IrishRob17]

2 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

I feel like I need to light a damn fire

Arson is a short word but a long sentence. 

[gravitylover]

Yeah this having the heat running at the end of April thing is no good. I want to light a fire but just recently cleaned out the fireplace and don't feel like doing it again so soon.

[psv88]

2 hours ago, Stormlover74 said:

I feel like I need to light a damn fire

Yea this blows

[doncat]

Normal lows for most of us are still in the mid 40's, so having to still  use heat is still common, at least  in the am. It's been a pretty mild April, so I guess we got used to  not using the heat for awhile.

[uncle W]

May usually has a few cold mornings when the heat is needed...I remember a cold day in June 1982 when the max was only 55...NYC has not had temperatures below 40 in May since 1978...

NYC coldest May days...1961 and 1967 had temperatures in the mid to upper 40's for highs with rain late in the month...ice pellets were reported in late May 1961 at LGA...

coldest minimums...

32 5/06/1891

34 5/05/1891

35 5/01/1880

35 5/09/1947

36 5/11/1913

36 5/10/1966

36 5/10/1947

36 5/09/1977

36 5/03/1874

36 5/01/1876

coldest max days...

43 5/3/1873

43 5/5/1891

44 5/7/1967

44 5/5/1917

44 5/9/1977

45 5/1/1917

45 5/2/1962

45 5/5/1978

45 5/6/1891

46 5/25/1967+

[doncat]

^^ The latest my station had a temp in the 30's was May 21st 2002 with a low of 39°.

[IrishRob17]

13 hours ago, doncat said:

Normal lows for most of us are still in the mid 40's, so having to still  use heat is still common, at least  in the am. It's been a pretty mild April, so I guess we got used to  not using the heat for awhile.

Yeah, people forget that it’s common to still need some heat. I always chuckle when people freak out about using the heat early/late in the season. It’s runs once or twice a day and people think that they are burning through cash like a deep winter cold snap in January. 

[rclab]

3 hours ago, IrishRob17 said:

Yeah, people forget that it’s common to still need some heat. I always chuckle when people freak out about using the heat early/late in the season. It’s runs once or twice a day and people think that they are burning through cash like a deep winter cold snap in January. 

Some of the low high temps we complain about know would have been window openers after a rough winter cold snap. As always .....

[stu]

I'm just looking for 48 hours without moisture.  I sanded my large deck about two weeks ago and need to stain it.  My stain requires 24 hours without moisture after applying it.  We haven't had a forecast now, going back two weeks and continuing into this whole week where there were two dry days in a row forecast.  I'm going to have to powerwash the thing again, which means I need three dry days to finish.  One for wood to dry.  One to stain.  One for stain to dry completely.  Now I know why everyone springs for composite decking!