wxmanmitch Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 18 minutes ago, powderfreak said: But you need a standard to compare to. I mean there's zero doubt in my mind that JSpin could average over 200" of snow a year at 495ft elevation if he cleared every couple hours all winter long. He started doing the 6-hour thing a decade ago and continues to do so to keep his measurements consistent. But you need some standard. I know I lose snowfall by not being that diligent but I've always been more concerned about the ski resort measurements than at home. I could probably average 150" if I measured every couple hours during those multi-day light snow events. Same with even first order stations. Maybe ORH would average 95" if they measured every 2-3 hours during storms. Heck, even Ray (40/70) had his amount tossed by BOX in a big storm recently because he cleared the board. I mean at Stowe we measure once in the morning early and once in the afternoon at the end of the ski day. It makes sense for skiers because there are two important factors to powder skiing...how much fell since the lifts closed and how much fell during the operating day. The northern Greens would average 400-500" if we had some way or wanted to measure every 3 hours all the time. To each his own, but I just hate that the "standard" penalizes meticulousness and therefore refuse to follow it exactly. As such, I also don't see why the set standard shouldn't be questioned. I've always been one to question authority and the conventional wisdom on how things "should" be done in the interest of doing things the right way - not how one (be it an organization or individual) says it should be done. I agree with some aspects of it such as averaging and measuring at changeover time during snow to rain scenarios, but not others like the frequency of board clearing. I do count sleet toward my totals, but not freezing rain. If people don't accept or believe my totals, that's on them, not me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 It was probably both... There was synoptic scale reasons that were "enhanced" by oriographics... probably the best way to look at it. Movin' right along - Beautiful warm sun and temps down my way cresting 40 and probably destined to mid 40s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 56 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Folks passing thru from NY to BOS must be like wtf. 0 in Manchester to 1” in Vernon, hit the hill on 84 and it looks like Stowe . And that 0.6 in Somers must be in the W part . There’s big elevation in E Somers that borders Tolland. Soapstone Mtn is at 1k where the tower is CONNECTICUT ...Tolland County... Willington 7.6 940 AM 3/23 Ham Radio Bolton 7.3 850 AM 3/23 Media Tolland 7.0 821 AM 3/23 Ham Radio Mansfield 6.8 845 AM 3/23 Ham Radio Storrs 6.5 729 AM 3/23 Ham Radio Staffordville 6.2 734 AM 3/23 Co-Op Observer Ellington 6.0 931 AM 3/23 Ham Radio Andover 6.0 727 AM 3/23 Ham Radio Columbia 6.0 815 AM 3/23 Ham Radio Coventry 6.0 458 AM 3/23 Trained Spotter Vernon 1.0 944 AM 3/23 Ham Radio Somers 0.6 744 AM 3/23 Trained Spotter Bolton damn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Ginx snewx said: Bolton damn They’re elevated there. 400-800” in spots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: They’re elevated there. 400-800” in spots Ellington? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 45 minutes ago, powderfreak said: The best part is he also saw what I talk about a lot in upslope. Where the radar "sees" the snow isn't necessarily where it falls. Strong NW flow has considerable downwind drift so you can get +SN downwind of the actual max radar echoes. Even in areas with no echoes present. Happens all the time here. Even with SE flow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 15 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Ellington? Huh? We were talking about Bolton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 It even looks a little bit like a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: It even looks a little bit like a Do you have the modis view? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Do you have the modis view? You got lucky, Terra had clouds but Aqua caught a glimpse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 9 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Do you have the modis view? Clouds but lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 40 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Huh? We were talking about Bolton What elevation is Ellington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Just now, Ginx snewx said: What elevation is Ellington Part is on valley floor by Ellington airport . Part on TOL line is 700’-800’ or so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: You got lucky, Terra had clouds but Aqua caught a glimpse. That’s crazy shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Just now, Damage In Tolland said: That’s crazy shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Part is on valley floor by Ellington airport . Part on TOL line is 700’-800’ or so Wonder where the obs was is my question , my father in law lives on the valley floor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Ginx snewx said: Wonder where the obs was is my question , my father in law lives on the valley floor What’d he have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: That’s crazy shot This event was literally out of your wildest dreams. Just your own private snow globe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: What’d he have? I don't know , he's in Florida for the winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Looks like something out of Midlo's backyard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, dendrite said: Looks like something out of Midlo's backyard. Same principle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 12 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: This event was literally out of your wildest dreams. Just your own private snow globe. It was like a 6 hour mini blizzard with blowing , drifting and 1-2” per hour. I issued a blizzard warning . It actually may have met criteria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Almost 4:00 and still looks like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 15 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: I don't know , he's in Florida for the winter I’m driving right thru that area to the indoor CFC complex this evening for younger daughters game at 6:00 in East Windsor. I go the back way. I’ll scope it out. I’d be willing to bet there’s snow on the hill in Ellington and none once you hit the Ellington Green on NW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 9 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: I’m driving right thru that area to the indoor CFC complex this evening for younger daughters game at 6:00 in East Windsor. I go the back way. I’ll scope it out. I’d be willing to bet there’s snow on the hill in Ellington and none once you hit the Ellington Green on NW Well it all melted now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 2 hours ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: Was nice imo just to track a real coastal. One that wasn’t moving at 55mph like all have prior this year. Nice elevation snow bomb in VT N NH NW Maine and parts of Ct Lesser caliber bomb for Maine. Most I saw on the GYX pns was 6.5" at Jackman. The co-op there is at 1160' though I don't recall whether the report came from that site. Rangeley is a bit above 1500' so may have gotten more, but I highly doubt there was anything like BML or what Alex reported. Maybe at 3000', but I suspect that all the people living year round above 2000' in Maine could fit in a minivan. The state's other snow jackpot region, Aroostook, got very little. The only cocorahs report from there was HUL with 0.5", and 1.25" precip. The pns from CAR showed RA totals, not snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 This was defintely a synoptic thing to it. I’ll have to look when I get in later. Westerly flow doesn’t explain lift at 600mb over the valley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 That 2.5” of fluff I got is essentially vaporized. If you blinked you missed it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 NW hills CT didn’t get much so Synoptics definitely more involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 4 hours ago, OceanStWx said: Officially, you are required to clear once per day and report the greatest depth of new snow. So theoretically you could measure as often as you like with no clearing, but you can only report the highest total amount. That way any inflation due to frequent measurement will ultimately compact/melt when you continue to get more snow (which replaces the previous measured total anyway). The real inflated totals come when you measure often and clear often. Alternatively I'm not going to chide anyone for clearing every 6 hours like LCD sites do. Think of a case like snow to rain. We run out and do a measurement right at changeover to capture the greatest depth of new snow in the 6 hour window, but we don't clear until the 6 hours is up and we do the official ob. But since the greatest depth of new snow was at the changeover time, that's the one that gets reported. This is what drives me nuts ......the inconsistency. I measure just as the LCD sites do, yet they tossed my measurement in the blizzard last year. How do you have two different guidelines for cohras and LCD??? Makes zero sense, and utter BS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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