CoastalWx Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 26 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said: I asked him the same question. I don't think he knows specifically. I can't imagine seeing surface fertilizer impacting a subsurface well. If I had to guess it's over 100' down. He's surrounded by about 20 houses and he's in a rural area. Just to his west is the vast expanse of the Hockomock Swamp. Bigfoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunafish Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 3 hours ago, S&P said: 1st cut sunday Unbelievable to me that people use the amount of chemicals needed to produce that lawn with a body of water that close to their property. Completely reckless. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 I went to buy a 50 lb bag of 19-19-19 at the farm supply store the other day, and it felt like I was buying contraband fresh off the boat from Colombia. Had to ask for it by name, go in the back room, and promise the guy I wans't using it on my lawn before he would sell it to me... apparently it's illegal here to broadcast ferts containing phosphorous on lawns. Looked into it a little further and the exception was if you're starting a new lawn from scratch, or can prove to the state of NY via repeated soil tests that you're below a certain threshold of P. Pretty intense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted April 16, 2019 Author Share Posted April 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Juliancolton said: I went to buy a 50 lb bag of 19-19-19 at the farm supply store the other day, and it felt like I was buying contraband fresh off the boat from Colombia. Had to ask for it by name, go in the back room, and promise the guy I wans't using it on my lawn before he would sell it to me... apparently it's illegal here to broadcast ferts containing phosphorous on lawns. Looked into it a little further and the exception was if you're starting a new lawn from scratch, or can prove to the state of NY via repeated soil tests that you're below a certain threshold of P. Pretty intense. Lesco? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Lesco does not have Phosphorous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backedgeapproaching Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 1 hour ago, CoastalWx said: Lesco does not have Phosphorous. Lesco makes ferts with phosphorous. They also make them without too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 4 hours ago, Juliancolton said: I went to buy a 50 lb bag of 19-19-19 at the farm supply store the other day, and it felt like I was buying contraband fresh off the boat from Colombia. Had to ask for it by name, go in the back room, and promise the guy I wans't using it on my lawn before he would sell it to me... apparently it's illegal here to broadcast ferts containing phosphorous on lawns. Looked into it a little further and the exception was if you're starting a new lawn from scratch, or can prove to the state of NY via repeated soil tests that you're below a certain threshold of P. Pretty intense. Yeah, NYS banned phosphorous in lawn fertilizer a few years ago now so if you buy Lesco in NYS is doesn't include it. Edit: NYS banned it starting in 2012. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 On 4/13/2019 at 1:42 PM, Damage In Tolland said: Black mulch time of year. 20 bags done. Need to buy 20 more. $10 for 5 bags at Lowe’s You should have just got a load full in your pick up truck for 20 bucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: You should have just got a load full in your pick up truck for 20 bucks. Think about the time spent having to clean it afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted April 16, 2019 Author Share Posted April 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: You should have just got a load full in your pick up truck for 20 bucks. Can’t fit enough and pain in azz to shovel, scoop.. and super time consuming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 37 minutes ago, dendrite said: Think about the time spent having to clean it afterwards. Think of all the plastic bags saved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 35 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Can’t fit enough and pain in azz to shovel, scoop.. and super time consuming Understood, but you probably can fit 100 bags equivalent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 I'm getting 6 yds of dark brown mulch delivered tomorrow. Got to edge first though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 2 hours ago, backedgeapproaching said: Lesco makes ferts with phosphorous. They also make them without too. I didn't think they could anymore, I guess so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 We fertilize tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backedgeapproaching Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 47 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: I didn't think they could anymore, I guess so? You may be right and as Julian said in NY he was having trouble. Seems some states have the ban. Most Starter Fertilizers have a pretty high phosphorus count as its important in establishing a new lawn. They are normally like 18-24-12 or something in that range. The middle number(phosphorous) is normally 24 or 25 or so. I havent used phosphorous since 2009 when I redid my while lawn from scratch so I haven't really had the need for phosphorus in fert, so guess things have gotten strict since then. I do mostly organic now if I can, but will do some synthetic Nitrogen drops in the fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backedgeapproaching Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 2 hours ago, IrishRob17 said: Yeah, NYS banned phosphorous in lawn fertilizer a few years ago now so if you buy Lesco in NYS is doesn't include it. Edit: NYS banned it starting in 2012. Yea, didn't realize some states banned it. I mean it makes sense, there is no need to apply it unless you soil is deficient or your starting a new lawn from scratch. And if you have a soil test that proves your low in P, then you can use it, even in the banned states. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 I’m getting the itch to seed some areas but I know it will torch. I just don’t want it to look bad all summer, but I may not have a choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 On 4/15/2019 at 9:06 AM, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: Look at you kid. Went from ashy to classy in a blink of an eye. Congrats. Ha thanks man. Been kind of a crazy year... but sometimes things just work out I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 So the guy across the street used some sort of fertilizer today, so I’m going to talk to him to see what he uses and how deep his well is (guessing they are all similar). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 1 hour ago, CoastalWx said: I’m getting the itch to seed some areas but I know it will torch. I just don’t want it to look bad all summer, but I may not have a choice. I’m throwing down like 4-6” of loam and am going to seed the shit out of it and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 I will likely put down some seed today. The upcoming several days will provide some natural watering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Rocks >> mulch. My landscape project is coming along and the rocks give a classier look over mulch. Plus much less labor over time compared to mulch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 15 hours ago, Baroclinic Zone said: We fertilize tomorrow. Is your wife okay with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted April 17, 2019 Author Share Posted April 17, 2019 Mulch >>> rocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJonesWX Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 13 hours ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said: I’m throwing down like 4-6” of loam and am going to seed the shit out of it and see what happens. make sure you have a solid plan for watering that grass seed, otherwise it will be a waste of time and money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Mulch >>> rocks I just mulch around decorative trees and plants to retain moisture but rocks are much more efficient and last way longer. Smarter choice and looks better too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted April 17, 2019 Author Share Posted April 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: I just mulch around decorative trees and plants to retain moisture but rocks are much more efficient and last way longer. Smarter choice and looks better too. Last longer sure. The rest though meh. Personal preference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 25 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Last longer sure. The rest though meh. Personal preference Preference, sure. I have too much area to have to scrape off old and lay down new mulch every season. Working on the front now with tree planting next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 18 hours ago, backedgeapproaching said: You may be right and as Julian said in NY he was having trouble. Seems some states have the ban. Most Starter Fertilizers have a pretty high phosphorus count as its important in establishing a new lawn. They are normally like 18-24-12 or something in that range. The middle number(phosphorous) is normally 24 or 25 or so. I havent used phosphorous since 2009 when I redid my while lawn from scratch so I haven't really had the need for phosphorus in fert, so guess things have gotten strict since then. I do mostly organic now if I can, but will do some synthetic Nitrogen drops in the fall. I just saw it today. I skipped that and just doing a preemergent with fert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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