TheSnowman Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 20 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: Did you tell them you are up on a 350 foot hill? That will matter too in a storm like this where you probably were closer to 30F instead of 31-32F like it might be down near the blackstone river. I explained to them how Cumberland goes from Tons of roads and concrete at 100 to Trees and Seclution at 350. They didn’t realize it. I said “Where are these other 2 posters? This town has its own climate”. I’d post the picture but you can only post a 0.00003MB picture of lint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, TheSnowman said: I explained to them how Cumberland goes from Tons of roads and concrete at 100 to Trees and Seclution at 350. They didn’t realize it. I said “Where are these other 2 posters? This town has its own climate”. I’d post the picture but you can only post a 0.00003MB picture of lint. How often did you clear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 22 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: This storm will bring out low amounts if you did not do it right. We were 31.5-31.8 and accumulated just fine. Even blowing off roof. I didn’t lose much to road cave, but measured in a shady spot on north side of house where snow stuck immediately. I was highly confident in the amount. The lowest I found was just over 14.5” where the snow was last to accumulate on part of my torch driveway. So I believe Cory. Lolz. 3 or 4:1 snow isnt even a real thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, TheSnowman said: I explained to them how Cumberland goes from Tons of roads and concrete at 100 to Trees and Seclution at 350. They didn’t realize it. I said “Where are these other 2 posters? This town has its own climate”. I’d post the picture but you can only post a 0.00003MB picture of lint. Yeah and there's even spots in Cumberland that get over 500 feet I think....really variable town...but most live down in the 100-250 foot range Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Where did they used to take the official boston ob? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, OSUmetstud said: Where did they used to take the official boston ob? Right before this, it was also in Winthrop, but it was at least further north more on land and not at a treatment plant in the middle of the atlantic ocean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 28 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Ha, not sure why that posted, but I’m leaving that right there. 3:1? Was he high? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSnowman Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, dendrite said: How often did you clear? 5 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: Yeah and there's even spots in Cumberland that get over 500 feet I think....really variable town...but most live down in the 100-250 foot range Diamond Hill is even over 600. But Tower Hill Rd. where Many houses are, are in the 450 range. And I cleared once of course. 6 hours in at 2:30. Had 6.5”. Had 10.5” after. Then a little after 8:30 from 3 hours of heavy mood snows with nothing on radar haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, TheSnowman said: Diamond Hill is even over 600. But Tower Hill Rd. where Many houses are, are in the 450 range. And I cleared once of course. 6 hours in at 2:30. Had 6.5”. Had 10.5” after. Then a little after 8:30 from 3 hours of heavy mood snows with nothing on radar haha. Sounds good. It's possible the other sites didn't clear. I mean, this was a quick, heavy thump of a lot of snow. The other two sites could have had a few inches of compaction while you had a clean slate to pile up another 10" with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 25 minutes ago, TheSnowman said: Really? You of Allllllllllllll people. I just Jackpotted a storm. I want the amount there. Not 30% less as posted not once but 2X. It can be infuriating. NWS almost always uses my reports for Greenfield because they know I'm pretty conservative with my measurements. I had to complain a few years ago when they used a "media" source for a few storms and they were way off from my totals both on the negative and positive side but almost every Greenfield report over the past 8 years is mine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HimoorWx Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 4 hours ago, CoastalWx said: 18.7 Randolph Wasn't me, but we easily had 16+. Woke up around 3:00 and it looked like about 6" then. Got up at 7:00 and wondered WTF happened in 4 hours! Guess I should have just stayed up at 3:00. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: Right before this, it was also in Winthrop, but it was at least further north more on land and not at a treatment plant in the middle of the atlantic ocean. We all know there should be a weather station and snow board in a little fenced area on Boston Common, just need to find somebody on Beacon Hill to walk down and take the measurements. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, HIPPYVALLEY said: It can be infuriating. NWS almost always uses my reports for Greenfield because they know I'm pretty conservative with my measurements. I had to complain a few years ago when they used a "media" source for a few storms and they were way off from my totals both on the negative and positive side but almost every Greenfield report over the past 8 years is mine. Are you a trained spotter? And was assigned a number with BOX? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheSnowman Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 14 minutes ago, dendrite said: Sounds good. It's possible the other sites didn't clear. I mean, this was a quick, heavy thump of a lot of snow. The other two sites could have had a few inches of compaction while you had a clean slate to pile up another 10" with. 5 minutes ago, dryslot said: Are you a trained spotter? And was assigned a number with BOX? Spotter 05-313 Baby. And my Untouched Compact Total was 16.25”. And I sent them the picture of the snow with ruler when it was so and untouched when I had 17” Total. This storm hardly had compaction which was fun because you shoveled 16” vs. usual for 17” which would be 14.5/15 and you’d feel like you cheated. RIGHT up through 15.5” the compact total was only 0.5” behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 15 minutes ago, TheSnowman said: Spotter 05-313 Baby. And my Untouched Compact Total was 16.25”. And I sent them the picture of the snow with ruler when it was so and untouched when I had 17” Total. This storm hardly had compaction which was fun because you shoveled 16” vs. usual for 17” which would be 14.5/15 and you’d feel like you cheated. RIGHT up through 15.5” the compact total was only 0.5” behind. I believe you. I think now that most who are in the "know" understand to let it settle if not measure it every 12-24 hours like many did before the 1995/1996 winter. Elevation and mesoscale features that you indicate here however can create these types of deviations. Not large deviations but somewhat noticeable as you have observed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Yeah this stuff fell so fast and it also didn't have massive ratios....they were good, maybe 15 to 1, but not jspin or LES ratios. It really didn't compact until the snow was almost stopped...and even then, it took a good hour to really get noticeable. I had the snow stick stuck in the same spot the entire time once I went out to start cleaning up and it didn't dip below 16" until maybe 9-930am. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 14 minutes ago, dendrite said: That's not a harbor island, that's a fishing boat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Does the Logan guy measure when it stops or wait till 1 when maybe the extra inch is melted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 56 minutes ago, powderfreak said: The GYX coastal plain (or at least outside the mountains) has seen the 7-10 split now... BTV's area has had several double digit events and now down south in the I-95 corridor. That's the SNE climate though. They may wait for it, but it's usually less events but bigger ones, vs. NNE is more frequency but average snowfalls lower. Looking at the major sites on KI-95 from DCA (actually DC itself, as its record snow probably pre-dates that AP) to HUL, the top snowfalls are remarkably similar: "DCA" 28.0" 1/1922 BWI 29.2" 1/2016 PHL 30.7" 1/1996 NYC 27.5" 1/2016 PVD 28.2" 2/1978 BOS 27.6" 2/2003 PWM 31.9" 2/2013 BGR 30.9" 2/1969 HUL 29.2" 3/1981 Get down to 15th largest, and the more southerly sites (DCA to PHL) drop to under 15" while farther north it's 17-18" (except for poor PVD, also <15.) Lolz. 3 or 4:1 snow isnt even a real thing. Uncommon but it happens. The slopfest of late Feb. 2010 dropped 10.7" from 2.68" LE, with all RA (there was 1.14" of that) excluded. Big clumps falling at hailstone velocity would just splatter upon hitting branches - wouldn't stay in the trees at all. Pick up and squeeze a handful of fresh snow, and water would run out thru one's fingers. Most unattractive 10"+ snow I ever hope to see - hardest to move, too, with no snowblower and a thawed gravel driveway to make pushing the scoop nearly impossible. Running the scoop thru the 24" of 13:1 snow almost exactly one year earlier was far easier. Adding to the yuck factor was that a much better result - 26.4" of workable paste - was just 10 miles (W) and 250' (up) away. Also that at the same time NYC was mid 20s with a 21" snowicane, on the same NE winds we had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, weathafella said: Does the Logan guy measure when it stops or wait till 1 when maybe the extra inch is melted? I know for sure he measures at the end, which is good for the most part but where the person is measuring in Winthrope needs to be way more representable for the Boston Metro Proper. As discussed many times on this board, Boston Common seems to be the most reasonable and representable place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxsniss Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Yeah I was gonna say he will go back to update the 708am measurement later this afternoon... So so frustrating Saw this on weather.gov, 10.6 at Logan... wonder if it’s been updated somewhere... not on the PNS... and who knows anymore, Deer Island, Logan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Final flakes (of continuous snow) ended about 10 minutes ago. Other than atop the snow, accum ended about 3 hours back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 I’m going to start taking snow obs at the Isles of Shoals and call it PSM. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 1 minute ago, dendrite said: I’m going to start taking snow obs at the Isles of Shoals and call it PSM. It's pretty damned crazy isn't it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimetree Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Finished up with 6.5" inches, which ties the January 20 event. Kinda disappointed we couldn't get more than that. Just to my west at the KPSM ASOS they reported 7...so close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, dendrite said: I’m going to start taking snow obs at the Isles of Shoals and call it PSM. Just avoid the higher points on those rocks, as it'll be too far ASL to compare with Logan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 FV3 has an almost exact replica on the 20th. GFS likes same period for a little tamer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 And the final appears to be 10.6 at BOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSnowman Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 I need to also respect the fact that this was the 13th Biggest Snowstorm during the Great Snow Era (1992-1993). Albeit I missed 2 of the 13. So it's the 11th biggest storm I've seen in my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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