CT Rain Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 I will say the national media tends to do a terrible job discussing climate change but I think they’re making an effort to get better. I think that’s a different matter than ignoring a town that I wouldn’t be able to pick out on a map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 East Coast Torch next week will garnish attn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Population matters, you guys even joke about that bu saying AEMATT. When watching national news I prefer to hear about the entire nation but thats jmho. Pretty big story about being the coldest spot in the entire globe relative to normal no matter the population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, CoastalWx said: East Coast Torch next week will garnish attn. False spring? Talks of crocuses and tulips sprouting next to foundations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Ginx snewx said: False spring? Talks of crocuses and tulips sprouting next to foundations? Tippy will be out of control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 As a side-car concept to the "relative importance of sensible weather" discussion... There are theoretical works that describe mid latitudes over the continents as plausibly experiencing extreme cold waves due to warm climate change ... counter-intuitive as that may be. The focus was during the earlier phases of said change. The ideas center around oceanic basin heat surpluses triggering an increased frequencies/distribution of positive geopotential atmospheric anomalies in their eastern regions. The resulting tendency for more arc flows at increasingly higher latitudes establishes cold conveyor activity more frequently ... into the continental winter seasons. This all goes back to the earlier days of GW prediction and the primitive climate modeling (by today's standards) of the late 1980s. I'm not sure if those studies are still carried out or even followed through .. but I recall reading of this way back in the day. It was (also) contained in the earlier discussion over the thermal-haline/Atlantic ocean circulation, and how the ambient salinity can cause the G-string to collapse...etc etc.. Well, flash forward 30 years. Who knows what the status of the gulf stream is, but the atmospheric stuff seems to be a fit there over the last 10 years. Lot's of warm departures interrupted by excessive if not historic cold.. Interesting. I also recall reading along the way that GW/climate change therefrom doesn't mean "warm" days necessarily ... more like extremes ... so perhaps that's concomitant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Reggie more in line now, congrats Mitch Dendrite and Gene 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Ginx snewx said: Reggie more in line now, congrats Dendrite and Gene Dang...look at that local max near Mt. Methuen in NE MA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Meanwhile cmc had some early am labatts for Sunday morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, weathafella said: Meanwhile cmc had some early am labatts for Sunday morning Labbatts blue used to be awesome on tap until the brewer changed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 hour ago, dendrite said: I'd be shocked if our highest is only mid 40s. Good! I was just looking at the zones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 More and more modeling giving Brians area the best lift omega. He probably gets a 6 pack while we all commiserate over the 1 to 2 then rain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Man just a tad east of bowling a strike right after St Patty's Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Labbatts blue used to be awesome on tap until the brewer changed When I was living in LA and my sons were little we’d watch NHL playoffs sponsored by Labatts starting at 5 LA time. We also set up a hockey hall. A lot of replastering...lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Ginx snewx said: The lack of national attention to the incredible cold outbreak in the Montana Dakotas region speaks volumes to media bias. If they were plus 35 you would hear it day after day. Lol. Not. I literally don't think what you've just said is true or supported by fact. In fact, the obsession with "the attack of the polar vortex" was a huge media event I think last year and also this year in the midwest record breaking cold outbreak. Average global temps keep going up and setting records. The planet is warming in substantial and dangerous ways and a good part of it is driven by our way of life as humans. That's the story, not cold as proof of non-global warming, or hot spells as proof of global warming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 42 minutes ago, Whineminster said: Thank you Ginxy for bringing this to light....it is so true, now more than ever. If it was super warm there they'd have Bill Nye and all these climate experts on cable news explaining how it's the end of the world....but if its super cold in red-leaning states......oh well who cares, doesn't fit the agenda like you say. Not trying to make a political debate but its important to see through the BS on both sides. You guys should put down the bastardi-bong. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 29 minutes ago, dendrite said: Maybe go to Fox News so you can hear about global cooling and that higher greenhouse gas emissions correlate to living longer? Because Fox absolutely has no agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 27 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Another media bias place. Its horrible how bad the national cable news is. Just brutal. I miss independent journalism and great journalists. The best journalists are investigative and we are lucky here in CT to have some fantastic ones. The rest are not journalists but rather reporters with guidelines to follow There is plenty of good and independent journalism. If you are libertarian leaning and centrist read Tyler Cowen's blog. The Economist is a good centrist source. Andrew Sullivan is great Center-Right. Ezra Klein and Vox are fantastic on the Left, as is Chris Hayes and Rachel Maddow. There is more and better independent journalism now than at anytime in my lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 18 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Reggie more in line now, congrats Mitch Dendrite and Gene Reggie wants me to max my snow pack this weekend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Yeah... agree with Scott - too early to tell if next week's Euro complexion whittles down to 20 hours of 52 F mist before refreeze ... Crucially the handling of the lead high pressure ... spatially and timing. Obviously if the high pressure retreats E... no one warm ups east of Albany much on day one of that. The sun will obviously play into that affect/off set too.. .but I've seen 850s of 15 F and temps at the surface of only 48 F with east winds in full sun in late May. And if that regime plays out... then as the front approaches we end up with 52 mist or something like that. If the high settles/retreats more south than E... different universe. Either correction at this range - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, mahk_webstah said: You guys should put down the bastardi-bong. You have no value for anyone who thinks differently. Good to know. I already said the climate is warming but you have gone a different route I never expected from you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, mahk_webstah said: There is plenty of good and independent journalism. If you are libertarian leaning and centrist read Tyler Cowen's blog. The Economist is a good centrist source. Andrew Sullivan is great Center-Right. Ezra Klein and Vox are fantastic on the Left, as is Chris Hayes and Rachel Maddow. There is more and better independent journalism now than at anytime in my lifetime. Lol oh you lost me at Rachel Maddow geezus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, Ginx snewx said: You have no value for anyone who thinks differently. Good to know. I already said the climate is warming but you have gone a different route I never expected from you. I read lots of people with a broad range of views. The point you were making about media reporting heat waves and not cold waves just struck me as completely inaccurate, and very much like what I read on Bastardi's twitter blog. I don't initiate political conversations in here but I do respond to them, directly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 12 minutes ago, mahk_webstah said: Lol. Not. I literally don't think what you've just said is true or supported by fact. In fact, the obsession with "the attack of the polar vortex" was a huge media event I think last year and also this year in the midwest record breaking cold outbreak. Average global temps keep going up and setting records. The planet is warming in substantial and dangerous ways and a good part of it is driven by our way of life as humans. That's the story, not cold as proof of non-global warming, or hot spells as proof of global warming. Probably best if you curtail your jet setting and take the train Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Fight , fight, fight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Ginx snewx said: Lol oh you lost me at Rachel Maddow geezus Interesting what you chose to pay attention to. I read across the spectrum from Center-right to Left. Rachel is Center-Left in her viewpoint. She does absolutely fantastic fact-based reporting, going into depth on issues. Blows her competition in her time slot, when compariing her to Hannity and the preppy white supremacist guy, and the shouting and screaming on CNN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis1729 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Ginx snewx said: The lack of national attention to the incredible cold outbreak in the Montana Dakotas region speaks volumes to media bias. If they were plus 35 you would hear it day after day. I don't think it has to do with a climate change bias. I think it has more to do with the low population there...which is unfortunate. It's all about social media and "exposure" these days. Rhinelander, WI just broke its all time monthly snowfall record by 20+" in Feb, and they have over 100" on the season with 35" snow cover...not bad for a non-snowbelt location in the Midwest. Parts of the UP snow belts have 50-70" of snow cover. Not one word in the media. If Chicago had a big snowfall season, the media would be all over it...and there would be the typical rubber stamp footage of an old dude with a hat on protecting themselves from the wind saying "what a dreadful winter....waaa...waaa...woe is me"...even though the northern plains have this nearly every day in DJF and it's just part of life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Take it to the banter thread folks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, mahk_webstah said: I read lots of people with a broad range of views. The point you were making about media reporting heat waves and not cold waves just struck me as completely inaccurate, and very much like what I read on Bastardi's twitter blog. I don't initiate political conversations in here but I do respond to them, directly. Its not a report about cold waves either but IMHO its about not reporting about the coldest relative to normal in the entire globe in our own country. Well apparently our country is only coastal elites according to many . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Out on a limb, But some of this is probably better for the politics section of the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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