Here we are again.  You all know the drill.   I've asked the mods here to be hyper vigilant and enforce a tight discussion with this one.  Lately, I've been hearing from a few posters that the discussion has gone downhill and that it's become tedious to participate and follow these threads.   we've all got to do better, including yes, myself.   So the familiar spiel:  If you see your posts disappearing, change your posting habits.  There's not going to be much of a warning phase...no banter...th