gravitylover Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 21 minutes ago, NittanyWx said: Pinging has stopped, just got above freezing now. Croton, Brewster have another 30 mins to an hr of ZR, a bit more north of there. Should flip about now in Mt. Kisco, Pound Ridge, etc. Storm behaved today, glad for no major surprises. I'm 350 feet above Croton Falls and it has been raining for an hour now. Spots that were shoveled/blown are down to iced over and wet pavement now everything else has a nice crust on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee59 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 37 minutes ago, psv88 said: LMAO ISP still leads the pack in shit winters gotta love the 2010s I'm in Levittown, we have had about 7 inches for the year. About an 11/2 today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrapin8100 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 19 minutes ago, Heavy Wet Snow said: How are roads in Ossining? Any freezing rain? We had a light glaze of ice earlier after the snow and sleet. Roads are wet now for the most part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 52 minutes ago, psv88 said: LMAO ISP still leads the pack in shit winters gotta love the 2010s I love how from 2 to 430 NYC somehow picked up nothing further Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Temp back down to 33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadInTheClouds Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 25 and light snow and sleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasiluvsnow Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 I have to take the dog out and man my deck looks treacherous right 32 right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternLI Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 This event ended up delivering a 2.1" total over here. I found the few hours of a mostly snow grain with a little sleet mixture pretty cool looking. It seemed like a fog out there. This brings my 2018-19 season snow total to 5.6" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_other_guy Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Solid sheet of ice out there this morning. The rain just froze with an air temperature of 32 or lower throughout the event and cold snow/sleet on the ground. 32.7F now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason215 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Woke up this morning and to my surprise my 1.5 inches (eyeballing it) of snow/sleet has condensed a bit, but at least the ground is still white here in Melville LI. I would have thought the overnight rain would wash everything bare, but that sleet is amazingly resilient. Question for you guys.. Have we ever been able to overcome a bad MJO index with a major snowstorm? I remember a few years ago (was it 2012?) were we had a terrible MJO which ruined the entire winter with a SE Ridge that we couldn’t kill. I’m not technical by any means and that’s why I predominanty lurk on here, but it seems that the state of the MJO trumps all other indices. it also seems rather difficult to predict the state of the MJO more than a few days out. Curious to know what is the largest snowfall ever with a MJO of 5 for NYC/LI? I believe 5 is the most hostile stage for snow, right? -Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForestHillWx Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Looks like 1/10th of ice on top of the packed snow. Absolute mess to clean up. Letting the sun do the work for the rest of this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Taking a flamethrower to my driveway this morning. Guess i shouldnt have relied on the “itll switch to rain and wash the little bit of snow away” crowd and cleared the driveway when i had the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Just now, BxEngine said: Taking a flamethrower to my driveway this morning. Guess i shouldnt have relied on the “itll switch to rain and wash the little bit of snow away” crowd and cleared the driveway when i had the chance. No that's the theory my wife chose to go with and now we have 3" of ice too. This sux because I'm not allowed to do anything to help make it better, guess we're just going to crawl up and down for a few days until it warms up on Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 There wasn't alot of rain last night. Yesterday was mostly a sleet event. The sidewalks are still a mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan76 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, BxEngine said: Taking a flamethrower to my driveway this morning. Guess i shouldnt have relied on the “itll switch to rain and wash the little bit of snow away” crowd and cleared the driveway when i had the chance. This stuff works great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyWx Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 22 minutes ago, BxEngine said: Taking a flamethrower to my driveway this morning. Guess i shouldnt have relied on the “itll switch to rain and wash the little bit of snow away” crowd and cleared the driveway when i had the chance. I knew that would happen here so made it a mission to clear everything last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 38 minutes ago, BxEngine said: Taking a flamethrower to my driveway this morning. Guess i shouldnt have relied on the “itll switch to rain and wash the little bit of snow away” crowd and cleared the driveway when i had the chance. It’ll be 44 later today and warm all week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 11 minutes ago, psv88 said: It’ll be 44 later today and warm all week Oh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 1 hour ago, BxEngine said: Taking a flamethrower to my driveway this morning. Guess i shouldnt have relied on the “itll switch to rain and wash the little bit of snow away” crowd and cleared the driveway when i had the chance. sleet lasts longer than snow because of its higher density so it might have protected you against melting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 39 minutes ago, BxEngine said: Oh. I mean it's Wednesday so "all week" really just means from now through Friday lol. And it's really only going to be warm on Friday when it's in the 50s, near 40 is just considered close to normal. It's going back to cold during the weekend and next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 11 hours ago, SnowGoose69 said: I love how from 2 to 430 NYC somehow picked up nothing further It wasn't snowing- it changed over around 11 AM. It didn't sleet hard enough to accumulate very much after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Any totals around the area ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanksfan Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 10 minutes ago, Snow88 said: Any totals around the area ? 1.5 inches snow/sleet in Nutley township. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPcantmeasuresnow Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 2.9 inches snow/sleet .10 inch ice in Eastern Orange County elevation 600 feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 @EasternLIa lot more snow out in riverhead than I expected. Looks like at least 2+ of glacier. We had a bit less further west. Crazy storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking70 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 2.75 inches of snow sleet. at least .10 of an inch of ice this morning. It was an ice rink early this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternLI Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 2 hours ago, psv88 said: @EasternLIa lot more snow out in riverhead than I expected. Looks like at least 2+ of glacier. We had a bit less further west. Crazy storm. It was a cool little event. I was anticipating like an inch before a washout. It ended up being a mostly snow to sleet situation. The sleet really adds some staying power. I was surprised to see how much was still on the ground this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVSnowLover Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 21 hours ago, EasternLI said: It was a cool little event. I was anticipating like an inch before a washout. It ended up being a mostly snow to sleet situation. The sleet really adds some staying power. I was surprised to see how much was still on the ground this morning. Yea this storm was definitely a win in terms of leaving frozen on the ground even after the rain. Despite not being a total whiff on the snow like the NAM showed, overall the NAM nailed it best with it being a predominantly sleet/zr event with some rain at the end, by far the best event since the November storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU848789 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 On 2/14/2019 at 11:25 AM, HVSnowLover said: Yea this storm was definitely a win in terms of leaving frozen on the ground even after the rain. Despite not being a total whiff on the snow like the NAM showed, overall the NAM nailed it best with it being a predominantly sleet/zr event with some rain at the end, by far the best event since the November storm. Yep, the breakdown of snow vs. sleet may have been off on some models, but the models did very well with the predictions of how much LE would fall in frozen form (sleet/snow, not ZR), with most of the NYC metro getting 0.4-0.6" of frozen LE (like 4-6" worth of snow; we had about 0.43" of frozen LE here) followed by a bit of ZR and then rain, but not as much rain as it could've been. As expected, most of the rain was simply absorbed into the snow/sleet pack, making slush, as opposed to melting much, especially with temps in the mid 30s after the storm. We had frozen precip on the ground until this afternoon here. For things like impact (with regard to snow removal/driving) and melting, frozen mass is far more important than depth. I know some think I'm being ridiculous, but I truly believe we ought to convert sleet to "snow equivalent" (at 10:1 ratio) to truly communicate its impact to the public - 1" of sleet sounds like nothing, but it's really 3.3" of "snow equivalent" which is far more impactful. And the 3:1, sleet:liquid ratio I've been using for awhile (3.3" of 10:1 snow in 1" of sleet if that is correct) has been based on what I've measured a few times, myself. However, I don't check this in every storm and I was just reading a report suggesting the ratio varies between 2:1 and 3:1, so if one took the midpoint of that range, one would get 2.5" of sleet per 1" of liquid, so that 1" of sleet would be equivalent to 4" of 10:1 snow and on the high end, 1" of sleet would be equivalent to 5" of 10:1 snow. https://projects.ncsu.edu/atmos_collaboration/nwsfo/storage/nomogram/ip.and.freezingrain.2.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 I think that it could be debated which is higher impact on travel. Sleet mixed with (even just a little bit of) snow, which is the most common way for it to fall up here, is a disaster to drive in. Just snow is difficult but usually manageable if you have decent tires on the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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