Ginx snewx Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 7 hours ago, powderfreak said: Ha true on time of year and I guess sleet doesn't cause that many issues no matter how much QPF is in it. I don't know why I was thinking Advisory was 3", not 4". Is your warning 6" or 7"? I might have been picturing 3"/6" for the headlines. 2 inches of Sleet causes more issues on the highways than a foot of powder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Glad to see we're giving up 4-6" SN for IP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnno Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 25 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: 2 inches of Sleet causes more issues on the highways than a foot of powder Yep millions of little marbles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 33 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: 2 inches of Sleet causes more issues on the highways than a foot of powder I can't remember if it was April 2012 or 2013 but Franklin county had a storm dropped almost 3 inches of sleet and there were over 30 accidents across the county that day, mostly minor luckily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWMan Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 31 minutes ago, Lava Rock said: Glad to see we're giving up 4-6" SN for IP. I know we won't get any sympathy from the SNE folks who are flirting with futility, but this has been a frustrating winter despite being right around seasonal averages so far. Virtually every storm has turned into a slop-fest, and of course we've had the torches in between. Anyway, this has the look of a 6" thump followed by some pelting before we dry slot. Then we garnish it with some rain on Friday before refreezing everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Question regarding the NWS Hourly Weather graph. The graph has numbers for expected snowfall and rainfall per hour. Sleet is given as occasional, etc., but no amounts given. Same with freezing rain. Are these tallied under the snow and rain amounts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said: Question regarding the NWS Hourly Weather graph. The graph has numbers for expected snowfall and rainfall per hour. Sleet is given as occasional, etc., but no amounts given. Same with freezing rain. Are these tallied under the snow and rain amounts? Rain is the total liquid eq. in 6 hourly periods. Snow would be all frozen in 6 hourly periods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, PWMan said: I know we won't get any sympathy from the SNE folks who are flirting with futility, but this has been a frustrating winter despite being right around seasonal averages so far. Virtually every storm has turned into a slop-fest, and of course we've had the torches in between. Anyway, this has the look of a 6" thump followed by some pelting before we dry slot. Then we garnish it with some rain on Friday before refreezing everything. Exactly. This could be a fairly easy 10-14" storm if there weren't any taint. I don't think any storm has overperformed this year which adds to the frustration. I'll typically look at the predicted range at 24hr and expect to get the low end or shave off 1-2" from that. We've melted out quite a bit over the last week, so any snow is welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Lava Rock said: Exactly. This could be a fairly easy 10-14" storm if there weren't any taint. I don't think any storm has overperformed this year which adds to the frustration. I'll typically look at the predicted range at 24hr and expect to get the low end or shave off 1-2" from that. We've melted out quite a bit over the last week, so any snow is welcome Sniff, Sniff, You will be much happier next month when its still on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: Rain is the total liquid eq. in 6 hourly periods. Snow would be all frozen in 6 hourly periods. Thanks... and I was wrong about freezing rain... amounts are given Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said: Thanks... and I was wrong about freezing rain... amounts are given Basically if we forecast it, it will be on there. We don't explicitly forecast sleet totals, so they can't be determined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: Basically if we forecast it, it will be on there. We don't explicitly forecast sleet totals, so they can't be determined. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 11 minutes ago, dryslot said: Sniff, Sniff, You will be much happier next month when its still on the ground. That’s why I still have coverage at the Pit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Just now, moneypitmike said: That’s why I still have coverage at the Pit. My pack is bullet proof, All 6-8" of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 58 minutes ago, Johnno said: Yep millions of little marbles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 NAM cooled at 12z a little bit....still pretty torchy overall, but it holds the sleet off maybe for an hour earlier. HRRR/RPM/RAP are all going for 5-6" from about BOS-ORH northward in SNE....NAM is still the least at around 3" with 4-5" up by Ray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: NAM cooled at 12z a little bit....still pretty torchy overall, but it holds the sleet off maybe for an hour earlier. HRRR/RPM/RAP are all going for 5-6" from about BOS-ORH northward in SNE....NAM is still the least at around 3" with 4-5" up by Ray. The HRRR has done pretty well with the events of 2019 so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 3K Nam and 12z Nam was decent here, Bumped totals another 1-2" so it looked to hold off the pellets some, But the 12z HRRR was real bullish with snow totals approaching 12", Not sure i'm buying that yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Damage In Tolland said: We stay below freezing whole event. Easy forecast Hopefully, It’s cold out but I’m not that enthusiastic about it staying all frozen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxextreme Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 If the NAM is to be believed, Ashby and Central MA is going to have an interesting time with some freezing rain. I have a feeling that I may switch over to rain while the valley below will see a more freezing rain event. It is interesting the effect 200ft has on the significance of icing in Ashby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whineminster Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, wxextreme said: If the NAM is to be believed, Ashby and Central MA is going to have an interesting time with some freezing rain. I have a feeling that I may switch over to rain while the valley below will see a more freezing rain event. It is interesting the effect 200ft has on the significance of icing in Ashby. Nah at elevation we'll get the freezing rain, this isn't a scouring out the cold air type of event it's a cold air drain type of event.....I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 nam looks a little better around here imho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxextreme Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Whineminster said: Nah at elevation we'll get the freezing rain, this isn't a scouring out the cold air type of event it's a cold air drain type of event.....I think. I am not so convinced, it usually happens that the valley below usually gets CAD and the icing is more significant there. Will be interesting to see. I have been thinking of setting up a mesonet in the area to explore this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 12z Reggie also quite bullish with 10"+, Its not been very good though but it is siding with the other Mesos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Ginx snewx said: 2 inches of Sleet causes more issues on the highways than a foot of powder Ya powderfreak initially brought up good points then folded like a lawn chair , that’s being polite lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 40 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: NAM cooled at 12z a little bit....still pretty torchy overall, but it holds the sleet off maybe for an hour earlier. HRRR/RPM/RAP are all going for 5-6" from about BOS-ORH northward in SNE....NAM is still the least at around 3" with 4-5" up by Ray. Seems like the most interesting area I’d say ORH to ASH eastward with regard to how the cold does beating back the sleet line tonite . Obviously the further NE in this set up the more resistance potential . Will the sleet line march north to ASH over to say Gloucester by 8pm...while areas of Essex county hold out longer ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 How do mesos look sleet/zr areas that flip quick today ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 22 minutes ago, Whineminster said: Nah at elevation we'll get the freezing rain, this isn't a scouring out the cold air type of event it's a cold air drain type of event.....I think. That drain fell .5* short in NW zones the last time. Meanwhike my car was reading only 14* during my drive to greenfield just now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 latest HRRR cooled a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, Bostonseminole said: latest HRRR cooled a bit Yea and it’s much colder aloft and surface vs the nam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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