40/70 Benchmark Posted January 20, 2019 Author Share Posted January 20, 2019 Just now, ORH_wxman said: Ray, the brine solution they typically use to pretreat roads before a storm drops the freezing point of the water to about 18F....so it starts losing its effectiveness at that temp. Then they have to use more straight salt. Well, get the straight salt out in Methuen. 17.4/15.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 1 minute ago, OceanStWx said: HRRR looks closest to capturing this CAD drain, but it's still too warm near the Seacoast. Looks like ballpark 3-4 degrees off for PSM. That always seems to be the biggest model bias...it is too diffuse with the CF...instead of keeping it right on the coastline or even just offshore in this case, the guidance makes it this diffuse thing that spreads west over way too large of an area rather than tightening up that gradient. And of course, they often aren't far enough south with the CAD drain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanks45 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 50/50 sleet/frz rain, a nice breeze out of the NNE, temp has now started to go up....28.8/27.3, We should be good for an hour or too of frz rain before the temperature creeps up to and over 32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Moderate snow now, Total so far 2.4. 29 here now. Not sure how much longer I’m going to stay awake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 28/28 2.5" cold drain almost to Tewksbury.. wonder if it makes it to Burlington.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisStraight Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Have about 2.5 inches. Steady snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organizing Low Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 9 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: Ray, the brine solution they typically use to pretreat roads before a storm drops the freezing point of the water to about 18F....so it starts losing its effectiveness at that temp. Then they have to use more straight salt. thx for the explanation. doesn't salt also lose its effectiveness below a certain temps growing up in ottawa, we had that problem on certain days, the roads just became snow packed, until the temp warmed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Just now, Bostonseminole said: 28/28 2.5" cold drain almost to Tewksbury.. wonder if it makes it to Burlington.. It will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 20, 2019 Author Share Posted January 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Bostonseminole said: 28/28 2.5" cold drain almost to Tewksbury.. wonder if it makes it to Burlington.. it will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ma blizzard Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Just now, ORH_wxman said: It will could be close just west of KBOS? Think I might end up on the other side of the CF tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 20, 2019 Author Share Posted January 20, 2019 Front just about to enter N Wilmington....trucking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 4 Seasons Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 The Snow/Mix line is moving through the state rapidly. Looks like most towns will see 2-4" maybe 5 or 6" counting the sleet, but i doubt we see anything over that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: That always seems to be the biggest model bias...it is too diffuse with the CF...instead of keeping it right on the coastline or even just offshore in this case, the guidance makes it this diffuse thing that spreads west over way too large of an area rather than tightening up that gradient. And of course, they often aren't far enough south with the CAD drain. It's definitely almost always too far west, but it also does a weird dual structure at times. Like really cold on the poleward side of the sharpest gradient, then some diffuse middle ground between the teens and 32, then the above freezing air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderblizzard Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 We ping. Around 3.3" snow/sleet here. 27F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: It will 1 minute ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: it will lol, you guys in bed together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Organizing Low said: doesnt salt also lose its effectiveness below a certain temps growing up in ottawa, we had that problem on certain days, the roads just became snow packed, until the temp warmed up. Typical Road salt becomes almost totally useless around -5F. But once youre below 10F, it is struggling...it just gets less ad less effective as you get lower, and once youre well into negative numbers, it's pretty bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 4 Seasons Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Thunderblizzard said: We ping. Around 3.3" snow/sleet here. 27F sounds about right, most will end up 2-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanks45 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Just now, The 4 Seasons said: The Snow/Mix line is moving through the state rapidly. Looks like most towns will see 2-4" maybe 5 or 6" counting the sleet, but i doubt we see anything over that. 2.6" snow/sleet in Newtown....temperature has begun a steady rise now with sleet/rain mix...29.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organizing Low Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 1 minute ago, ORH_wxman said: Typical Road salt becomes almost totally useless around -5F. But once youre below 10F, it is struggling...it just gets less ad less effective as you get lower, and once youre well into negative numbers, it's pretty bad. Awesome answer! now i know....thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: Front just about to enter N Wilmington....trucking. what are you watching? wundermap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbutts Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Finally snowing at a decent clip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
512high Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 just stopping at our shop , my davis is now 17F about 1 1/4" sandy snow, I haven't read anything back, I thought by now I would have at least 4" on the ground, is this delayed? ty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 20, 2019 Author Share Posted January 20, 2019 1 minute ago, The 4 Seasons said: sounds about right, most will end up 2-4. I should hit that. I had N CT in the middle of the 4-8" zone, so as long as they grab 4-5", then I'm happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 20, 2019 Author Share Posted January 20, 2019 Just now, Bostonseminole said: what are you watching? wundermap? weather underground app on my cell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Just got home. Roads snow covered entire way. Eyeballing 2” on the deck rail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRWEATHA Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 No mixing yet. About 2 inches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 20, 2019 Author Share Posted January 20, 2019 Front is going over my mom's house in W Wilmington now..concerned about ice there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 20, 2019 Author Share Posted January 20, 2019 Just now, FRWEATHA said: No mixing yet. About 2 inches Watching your obs closely... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, ma blizzard said: could be close just west of KBOS? Think I might end up on the other side of the CF tho Yeah Boston itself will be too far east....we will have to watch closely in the morning though if mesolow forms then it could slosh into the city. But for now, the drain is moving away from the shoreline in MA. It looks like it is having trouble penetrating east of 95 in Essex county. But not far west of BOS near 128 could get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 20, 2019 Author Share Posted January 20, 2019 16.9/14.7 1.75" N wind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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