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January 2019 Discussion II


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The ensemble splatter of lows is likely due to such a weak and strung out look. I think Will said this yesterday. So any weenie low that is an isobar stronger than the environment pressure will get plotted and make it appear all over the place. Seems like some members like the srn energy.

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Love the Melts....5 days out and they're melting like Snowmen in Miami!!

 

Been tracking this thing for too long...that's why some are flipping out.  Like Dryslot said....no right or wrong model depictions right now at 5 days out....things are still evolving and there are going to be many more changes going forward...that you can bet on.  

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Just now, CoastalWx said:

The ensemble splatter of lows is likely due to such a weak and strung out look. I think Will said this yesterday. So any weenie low that is an isobar stronger than the environment pressure will get plotted and make it appear all over the place. Seems like some members like the srn energy.

Makes sense, The ones with the lowest pressures are pretty far west.

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11 minutes ago, WinterWolf said:

Love the Melts....5 days out and they're melting like Snowmen in Miami!!

 

Been tracking this thing for too long...that's why some are flipping out.  Like Dryslot said....no right or wrong model depictions right now at 5 days out....things are still evolving and there are going to be many more changes going forward...that you can bet on.  

Haven't seen many melts today 

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24 minutes ago, snowgeek said:

The existence of this one has been pretty consistently modeled for so long that it seems like an eternity until game time.  The slight wavers north and south will drive an unstable weenie mad.  Steady as she goes......it is what it is.  

while salient advice ... the fact that someone always levels this ...everyone concurs with it's usefulness and truth, yet every model cycles resorts to the same vitriol... tells us that the issue has more to do with something else entirely.  These people are capable of learning, and maturing/evolving toward a sophistication of the engagement ... one where the individual doesn't react with a mood shift at all. But they don't evolve ... why? 

This is about what the model shows at the moment they see it - and, there is a very real ( if not troubling ) sort of emergent dependency there.  Take weather enthusiasts at all scales, from beginner enthusiasts to Mets ... they seem to become more like model enthusiasts, and during a post-modern era of rich stimulus to choose from, this gets distilled into an intense quasi-obsession...  

The model enthusiasm isn't really about the practicum of deteministic weather foreccasting ...Oh there's some...  What is sought, though, is a "rush," one that is experienced by dramatic model illustrations ... That rush is similar to a runner's high. People need their drug... they want it at the moment the model is seen.. if they don't get it... they react - learning and evolution has less to do with getting to the rush. That's why this saga replays over and over and over - its' because that cycle has no learning curve. It's a sensation they are after. 

There's some of that prior to the model-by-web era anyway... the seeds of that vulnerability to a kind of enslavement to the drug were always there. They just were never cultivated like they can be now.  How many times did you look at a weather map on the 6 o'clock news (the royal "you") and see a storm up there for D6 ...then... it was gone by the time that D6 was D2 ...  ?  You felt the same thing... This era we live in compresses that whole phenomenon into short durations ...and with greater amplitude swings.  Kind of an interesting social-dynamic versus technology influence thing. 

 

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1 minute ago, Typhoon Tip said:

while salient advice ... the fact that someone always levels this ...everyone concurs with it's usefulness and truth, yet every model cycles resorts to the same vitriol... tells us that the issue has more to do with something else entirely.  These people are capable of learning, and maturing/evolving toward a sophistication of the engagement ... one where the individual doesn't react with a mood shift at all. But they don't... why? 

This is about what the model shows at the moment they see it - and, there is a very real ( if not troubling ) sort of emergent dependency about that, too. Take weather enthusiasts at all scales, from beginner enthusiasts to Mets ... they seem to become more like model enthusiasts, during a post-modern era of rich stimulus to choose from...  

The model enthusiasm isn't really about the practicum of deteministic weather foreccasting ...Oh there's some...  What is sought is a "rush," one that is experienced by dramatic model illustrations ... That rush is similar to a runner's high. People need their drug... they want it at the moment the model is seen.. if they don't get it... they react - 

There's some of that prior to the model-by-web era anyway... the seeds of that vulnerability to a kind of enslavement to the drug were always there. How many times did you look at a weather map on the 6 o'clock news (the royal "you") and see a storm up there for D6 ...then... it was gone by the time that D6 was D2 ...  ?  You felt the same thing... This era we live in compresses that whole phenomenon into short durations ...and with greater amplitude swings.  Kind of an interesting social-dynamic versus technology influence thing. 

 

True, true, true.  Which is why the every hour model runs of the future will probably lower the life expectancy of a weather weenie by 5-10 years LOL.

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7 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

while salient advice ... the fact that someone always levels this ...everyone concurs with it's usefulness and truth, yet every model cycles resorts to the same vitriol... tells us that the issue has more to do with something else entirely.  These people are capable of learning, and maturing/evolving toward a sophistication of the engagement ... one where the individual doesn't react with a mood shift at all. But they don't evolve ... why? 

This is about what the model shows at the moment they see it - and, there is a very real ( if not troubling ) sort of emergent dependency there.  Take weather enthusiasts at all scales, from beginner enthusiasts to Mets ... they seem to become more like model enthusiasts, and during a post-modern era of rich stimulus to choose from, this gets distilled into an intense quasi-obsession...  

The model enthusiasm isn't really about the practicum of deteministic weather foreccasting ...Oh there's some...  What is sought, though, is a "rush," one that is experienced by dramatic model illustrations ... That rush is similar to a runner's high. People need their drug... they want it at the moment the model is seen.. if they don't get it... they react - learning and evolution has less to do with getting to the rush. That's why this saga replays over and over and over - its' because that cycle has no learning curve. It's a sensation they are after. 

There's some of that prior to the model-by-web era anyway... the seeds of that vulnerability to a kind of enslavement to the drug were always there. They just were never cultivated like they can be now.  How many times did you look at a weather map on the 6 o'clock news (the royal "you") and see a storm up there for D6 ...then... it was gone by the time that D6 was D2 ...  ?  You felt the same thing... This era we live in compresses that whole phenomenon into short durations ...and with greater amplitude swings.  Kind of an interesting social-dynamic versus technology influence thing. 

 

Well stated 

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