LibertyBell Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 11 minutes ago, NorthShoreWx said: A little too young. I never heard any mention of sleet in Syosset. It doesn't mean it didn't happen. Having grown up in that house, I'd estimate the snow depth could easily be 30". That drift in front of the bay window was about 6 feet. it looks like some images I've seen from Feb 1978- fairly comparable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 12 minutes ago, NorthShoreWx said: A little too young. I never heard any mention of sleet in Syosset. It doesn't mean it didn't happen. Having grown up in that house, I'd estimate the snow depth could easily be 30". I tried finding weather dailies from Syosset and Meneola was the closest I could find...29" on the ground... IPS-C2A043F4-AAA0-4FF5-8AF0-EE3D4547E6C7.pdf (noaa.gov) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 18 minutes ago, uncle W said: I tried finding weather dailies from Syosset and Meneola was the closest I could find...29" on the ground... IPS-C2A043F4-AAA0-4FF5-8AF0-EE3D4547E6C7.pdf (noaa.gov) Thanks. That works for me. Every storm is different, but we often did a little better than Mineola, so 30" or more in Syosset in 1961 is definitely possible. Pretty sure that 1961 snow depth hasn't been matched since. 78 best efforts measurement (so much wind!) was 24" which was what was on the ground at the end of the storm. So that would have been our max snow depth that year. Wiping a board, that storm could have been 30" and NYC would easily have been over 20" possibly well over given that it snowed for 36 hours. That's the problem with comparing individual older storms with more recent. We're definitely getting more big storms, but the big ones aren't really bigger than the old time biggies. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 hour ago, NorthShoreWx said: Thanks. That works for me. Every storm is different, but we often did a little better than Mineola, so 30" or more in Syosset in 1961 is definitely possible. Pretty sure that 1961 snow depth hasn't been matched since. 78 best efforts measurement (so much wind!) was 24" which was what was on the ground at the end of the storm. So that would have been our max snow depth that year. Wiping a board, that storm could have been 30" and NYC would easily have been over 20" possibly well over given that it snowed for 36 hours. That's the problem with comparing individual older storms with more recent. We're definitely getting more big storms, but the big ones aren't really bigger than the old time biggies. I wonder if a more accurate comparison can be made with liquid equivalencies since snowfall measuring methods seem to be so unscientific because everyone does it their own way. For example, I find Jan 2016 3.00" liquid equivalency all snow to be unmatched for a 100% snowstorm. May not see that again in southwestern Nassau in my lifetime. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 on this date in 1969 we were digging out and 2010 it was coming down...I got 13" in 2010 on SI...1969 was bigger...The 69 storm was unsceen by forecasters until it was sceen...2010 was forecast pretty good... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 6 hours ago, uncle W said: on this date in 1969 we were digging out and 2010 it was coming down...I got 13" in 2010 on SI...1969 was bigger...The 69 storm was unsceen by forecasters until it was sceen...2010 was forecast pretty good... 20" for eastern parts of the city in 1969 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stemwinder Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Feb 10 1969. I was in New Haven CT that year. Was elated to wake up to that storm, when I was expecting the usual snow-to-rain business. Anyone know how much snow fell in New Haven? Temps were around 30, if I remember correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 42 minutes ago, stemwinder said: Feb 10 1969. I was in New Haven CT that year. Was elated to wake up to that storm, when I was expecting the usual snow-to-rain business. Anyone know how much snow fell in New Haven? Temps were around 30, if I remember correctly. As luck would have it, the records I have for New Haven begin on 5/1/1969. Here are snowfall reports from some other coops in CT for 2/9-10/1969: Stamford 21.5" Bridgeport 18" Danbury 18" Woodbury 17" Hartford 16" Shuttle Meadow Reservoir 18" Middletown 22" Colchester 19" There was less in eastern CT: Groton only reported 5" but a few miles north Norwich had 12" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stemwinder Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 2 hours ago, NorthShoreWx said: As luck would have it, the records I have for New Haven begin on 5/1/1969. Here are snowfall reports from some other coops in CT for 2/9-10/1969: Stamford 21.5" Bridgeport 18" Danbury 18" Woodbury 17" Hartford 16" Shuttle Meadow Reservoir 18" Middletown 22" Colchester 19" There was less in eastern CT: Groton only reported 5" but a few miles north Norwich had 12" Thank you for that. I knew for sure that it exceeded a foot. Probably the low amount in Groton is related to the storm track and mixing that did not occur elsewhere? Norwich is probably a bit more elevated. (ed. nope) Nice data. Everyone loves surprises. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 On 2/10/2021 at 6:09 PM, NorthShoreWx said: As luck would have it, the records I have for New Haven begin on 5/1/1969. Here are snowfall reports from some other coops in CT for 2/9-10/1969: Stamford 21.5" Bridgeport 18" Danbury 18" Woodbury 17" Hartford 16" Shuttle Meadow Reservoir 18" Middletown 22" Colchester 19" There was less in eastern CT: Groton only reported 5" but a few miles north Norwich had 12" Got numbers for Long Island, Ed? I think both JFK and LGA reached or exceeded 20"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 2 hours ago, EpicHECS said: I see a mention of the ~Christmas 2010 storm. Definitely one that tends to get lost in the shuffle but clearly a monster. We haven't seen a winter storm that intense and violent since. That's just a fact. Not for the south shore of Long Island....here the Jan 2016 takes the cake with over 30" of snow in a wide swath (at both my locations!) There's a list of Christmas storms (actually that one is called the Boxing Day storm since that happened the day after Christmas) on a previous page....the notable one is from the 66-67 winter, which was a great winter by all accounts and very long. The king of all Boxing Day storms happened in December 1947 and happened to be the greatest snowstorm (and winter) until 1995-96 came along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, EpicHECS said: You're talking about the Lindsey Storm and whether it's in Chicago or NY, or any of it's suburbs: When you combine extreme wind with extreme snow, you can shut down cities for days. I hate when storms of recent past get remembered for sheer totals over the course of like three days when there have been some true snow "storms" that lasted 6-8 hours and because of extreme winds, had 4+ foot drifts accumulate in that time. THOSE are the storms that shut down any locale. Urban, suburban, or rural. They happen, too - despite the fact that we haven't see events like this in quite some time. Just look back a couple of years in November/NYC: 4-6" of snow with moderate winds in a short period of time absolutely gridlocked the bridges and island itself. Imagine 3-4" hour rates with extreme winds in the major cities today? Not a matter of if ...a matter of when. oh the Lindsey storm was from my previous post, not the one you quoted....Jan 2016 was only 5 years ago lol. That was 30" in 24 hours. Lindsey storm was Feb 1969. When you mentioned memorable storms that dont last that long, you reminded me of Jan 2018 I think it was where we had a white out that entire day, the storm lasted less than 12 hours but dropped 10" or so. True blizzard conditions for 6 hours. Jan 2016 had true blizzard conditions for 12 hours here, but Jan 2018 was more photogenic in some ways because the entire day was a white out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 35 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: Got numbers for Long Island, Ed? I think both JFK and LGA reached or exceeded 20"? STATION NAME Year Month Day Daily Precip Snowfall Snow Depth Max Temp Min temp Bridgehampton 1969 2 9 1.89 1.0 1 37 31 Bridgehampton 1969 2 10 0.46 2.5 3 33 28 Hempstead-Garden City 1969 2 9 1.66 15.5 16 36 29 Hempstead-Garden City 1969 2 10 0.44 6.5 18 34 23 Islip LI Macarthur AP 1969 2 9 2.00 15.0 0 35 27 Islip LI Macarthur AP 1969 2 10 0.20 2.0 15 30 22 Mineola 1969 2 9 1.85 15.0 15 36 27 Mineola 1969 2 10 0.40 5.0 20 -99999 M -99999 New York JFK Intl AP 1969 2 9 2.46 19.9 9999 35 26 New York JFK Intl AP 1969 2 10 0.03 0.3 18 33 23 New York La Guardia AP 1969 2 9 1.82 15.7 1 33 26 New York La Guardia AP 1969 2 10 0.04 0.4 16 33 25 NY City Central Park 1969 2 9 1.64 14.0 1 36 26 NY City Central Park 1969 2 10 0.18 1.3 15 36 24 Patchogue 2 N 1969 2 9 2.00 14.8 14 34 28 Patchogue 2 N 1969 2 10 0.01 0.0 13 32 19 Riverhead Research Farm 1969 2 9 1.28 5.5 6 32 29 Riverhead Research Farm 1969 2 10 0.25 3.0 9 31 23 Setauket Strong 1969 2 9 1.80 12.0 12 34 29 Westhamptn Gabreski AP 1969 2 9 1.07 0.4 M 40 29 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, NorthShoreWx said: STATION NAME Year Month Day Daily Precip Snowfall Snow Depth Max Temp Min temp Bridgehampton 1969 2 9 1.89 1.0 1 37 31 Bridgehampton 1969 2 10 0.46 2.5 3 33 28 Hempstead-Garden City 1969 2 9 1.66 15.5 16 36 29 Hempstead-Garden City 1969 2 10 0.44 6.5 18 34 23 Islip LI Macarthur AP 1969 2 9 2.00 15.0 0 35 27 Islip LI Macarthur AP 1969 2 10 0.20 2.0 15 30 22 Mineola 1969 2 9 1.85 15.0 15 36 27 Mineola 1969 2 10 0.40 5.0 20 -99999 M -99999 New York JFK Intl AP 1969 2 9 2.46 19.9 9999 35 26 New York JFK Intl AP 1969 2 10 0.03 0.3 18 33 23 New York La Guardia AP 1969 2 9 1.82 15.7 1 33 26 New York La Guardia AP 1969 2 10 0.04 0.4 16 33 25 NY City Central Park 1969 2 9 1.64 14.0 1 36 26 NY City Central Park 1969 2 10 0.18 1.3 15 36 24 Patchogue 2 N 1969 2 9 2.00 14.8 14 34 28 Patchogue 2 N 1969 2 10 0.01 0.0 13 32 19 Riverhead Research Farm 1969 2 9 1.28 5.5 6 32 29 Riverhead Research Farm 1969 2 10 0.25 3.0 9 31 23 Setauket Strong 1969 2 9 1.80 12.0 12 34 29 Westhamptn Gabreski AP 1969 2 9 1.07 0.4 M 40 29 wow thats an amazing snow depth at JFK, they must've been the snow capital of Long Island back then looks like it melted pretty quickly too lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Just now, LibertyBell said: wow thats an amazing snow depth at JFK, they must've been the snow capital of Long Island back then That's supposed to be z's, not 9's. The observer was sleeping instead of measuring snowdepth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justinj Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 How about February 7th 2013. That was a good one. A lot of places over 2’. Medford was the jackpot on LI with 32”. Parts of Connecticut had 40” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, justinj said: How about February 7th 2013. That was a good one. A lot of places over 2’. Medford was the jackpot on LI with 32”. Parts of Connecticut had 40” Islip LI Macarthur AP 2013 2 8 2.21 16.7 0 36 25 Islip LI Macarthur AP 2013 2 9 0.74 11.1 25 29 20 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Just now, NorthShoreWx said: Islip LI Macarthur AP 2013 2 8 2.21 16.7 0 36 25 Islip LI Macarthur AP 2013 2 9 0.74 11.1 25 29 20 you were in the middle of the 30"+ totals in that one weren't you Ed? I remember a 38" total from somewhere on Long Island Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justinj Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Just now, LibertyBell said: you were in the middle of the 30"+ totals in that one weren't you Ed? I remember a 38" total from somewhere on Long Island I think 32” was the highest on LI during that storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justinj Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Plum island had a 75mph gust during the 2013 storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justinj Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 10 hours ago, justinj said: the 1980's had colder temps in Tampa... 21 January 21, 1985 19 December 26, 1983 22 January 13, 1981 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 7 hours ago, uncle W said: the 1980's had colder temps in Tampa... 21 January 21, 1985 19 December 26, 1983 22 January 13, 1981 the Feb 1899 arctic outbreak was accompanied by a historic snowstorm, I believe the statehouse in Tallahassee saw 2 inches and even Tampa had measurable snow? All of the above arctic outbreaks had temps of 0 or below in NYC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 13 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: the Feb 1899 arctic outbreak was accompanied by a historic snowstorm, I believe the statehouse in Tallahassee saw 2 inches and even Tampa had measurable snow? All of the above arctic outbreaks had temps of 0 or below in NYC. coldest Tampa was in Dec 1962...18... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Feb 24 1989 storm 1989... A total of 33 cities in the Ern U.S. reported new record low temperatures for the date, and an Atlantic coast storm spread heavy snow from GA to Srn New England. Snowfall totals in NJ ranged up to 24" in Cape May Co, with 19" reported at ACY. Totals in NC ranged up to 18" in Gates County, and winds along the coast of NC gusted to 70 mph at Duck Pier. Strong winds gusting to 52 mph created blizzard conditions at Chatham, MA. (NWS) (SD) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 10 hours ago, Brian5671 said: Feb 24 1989 storm 1989... A total of 33 cities in the Ern U.S. reported new record low temperatures for the date, and an Atlantic coast storm spread heavy snow from GA to Srn New England. Snowfall totals in NJ ranged up to 24" in Cape May Co, with 19" reported at ACY. Totals in NC ranged up to 18" in Gates County, and winds along the coast of NC gusted to 70 mph at Duck Pier. Strong winds gusting to 52 mph created blizzard conditions at Chatham, MA. (NWS) (SD) forgot about the record cold lol. I cant help but think if storms like Dec 1992 and Feb 1989 occurred in today's climate there'd be a lot more snow. I mean if you superimpose the tracks of those storms compared to what we've had this season, you'd say those should be big snowstorms for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wishcast_hater Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Remember when people actually posted in Memory Lane rather than the storm threat of the week? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriPol Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Who remembers this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Not exactly "memory" lane for most here, but some may find it interesting that all data from the old NYC Weather Bureau station (the Battery) is now available at NCEI: https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cdo-web/datasets/GHCND/stations/GHCND:USC00305816/detail 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 17 minutes ago, famartin said: Not exactly "memory" lane for most here, but some may find it interesting that all data from the old NYC Weather Bureau station (the Battery) is now available at NCEI: https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cdo-web/datasets/GHCND/stations/GHCND:USC00305816/detail the first month I looked at was Feb 1894...it has 37.9" of snow but the snow depth doesn't add up and amounts are much higher than Central Park...Feb 1893 reported a storm of 17.8" on the 17th-18th and 32.0" for the month...snow depth was 10"...Central Park had 17.8" for the month... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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