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Northern Ocean Co was a screw zone this winter and a partial screw zone in 2022 in that the early Jan event that gave ACY like a foot down to Cape May gave us nothing but virga with a hard northern cutoff. 

This year I have ten inches, storms missed south repeatedly and north. 

Thankfully 1/29/22, I had the Jersey jackpot with 16 inches (I think our poster from Barnegat beat me at 18 though, still I’m not complaining). I would be much …pissy-er without that storm. Cold smoke, 22f, windy, … was a good one. 

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On 2/22/2025 at 5:42 AM, Volcanic Winter said:

Northern Ocean Co was a screw zone this winter and a partial screw zone in 2022 in that the early Jan event that gave ACY like a foot down to Cape May gave us nothing but virga with a hard northern cutoff. 

This year I have ten inches, storms missed south repeatedly and north. 

Thankfully 1/29/22, I had the Jersey jackpot with 16 inches (I think our poster from Barnegat beat me at 18 though, still I’m not complaining). I would be much …pissy-er without that storm. Cold smoke, 22f, windy, … was a good one. 

Haven't had more than 8 inches of snow at a pop here since Feb 2021.   (Jan 22 gave us 6-7-we never got into the hvy snow)   18 YTD here but it stuck around for a long time despite the lack of a big storm.

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4 hours ago, MJO812 said:

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I'm always disappointed in how inaccurate the NESIS storm maps are.  Not just for here, but for example, I can show you photos confirming about 4 feet of snow at around 500 feet elevation in Harriman much of it from the late February 2010 storm (you can also cross ref old PNS reports).

I think I understand the reason locally to be that they relied on one or two observations to cover central LI, with Setauket-Strongs neck having been one of them until fairly recently.  That station didn't always measure even once in 24 hours, plus it is surrounded by water.  

For Rockland County and eastern Orange, there was probably a low snowfall report (possibly accurate for its location) that was overweighted in developing that map.

The maps are useful in approximating a very broad picture of snowfall distribution, but have a lot of the details wrong.  I think there is more data and better tools for abstracting the data into visual maps available than these are utilizing.

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17 minutes ago, NorthShoreWx said:

I'm always disappointed in how inaccurate the NESIS storm maps are.  Not just for here, but for example, I can show you photos confirming about 4 feet of snow at around 500 feet elevation in Harriman much of it from the late February 2010 storm (you can also cross ref old PNS reports).

I think I understand the reason locally to be that they relied on one or two observations to cover central LI, with Setauket-Strongs neck having been one of them until fairly recently.  That station didn't always measure even once in 24 hours, plus it is surrounded by water.  

For Rockland County and eastern Orange, there was probably a low snowfall report (possibly accurate for its location) that was overweighted in developing that map.

The maps are useful in approximating a very broad picture of snowfall distribution, but have a lot of the details wrong.  I think there is more data and better tools for abstracting the data into visual maps available than these are utilizing.

They were off for January 2016 too.

Do they use some sort of computerized mapping device to make these? Perhaps they could feed all the data into it (not leaving anything out) and let the computer use some sort of data smoothing curve to generate a best fit map?

 

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I was just looking at the NESIS page.  If I'm reading it correctly, in a 13 day stretch in 2010 western southern NJ received:

4-10" Jan 29-30

20-30" Feb 4-7

10-20" Feb 9-11th

and it looks like it never got out of the 30s during that stretch.

Is this not amazing?  I've never seen a stretch like that on LI.  Closest to this would be maybe '78 before I could remember.  I don't remember this being discussed much back in 2010, but then again I see we got clocked up here a few times in early 2010 too and I have no recollection of those either.  Probably because they were so darn frequent for so long.

 

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7 hours ago, coastalplainsnowman said:

I was just looking at the NESIS page.  If I'm reading it correctly, in a 13 day stretch in 2010 western southern NJ received:

4-10" Jan 29-30

20-30" Feb 4-7

10-20" Feb 9-11th

and it looks like it never got out of the 30s during that stretch.

Is this not amazing?  I've never seen a stretch like that on LI.  Closest to this would be maybe '78 before I could remember.  I don't remember this being discussed much back in 2010, but then again I see we got clocked up here a few times in early 2010 too and I have no recollection of those either.  Probably because they were so darn frequent for so long.

 

It reminds me of the period between Boxing Day 2010 to the end of January 2011 in  the city and on Long Island.

 

 

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