NorthShoreWx Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 8 hours ago, LibertyBell said: whats with these two different numbers listed for Upton? SUFFOLK COUNTY... UPTON (NATIONAL WX SERVICE) 7.9 500 PM (6.7 ON THE GROUND) 7.9" before it got rained on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Noticed a few of you have seen my YouTube page Thanks for the compliments. With everything going on, I forgot that today is the 25th anniversary of the greatest snowstorm of my childhood. If you'd like to relive it with me, I put all the TV footage I recorded then on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-9RwNUuaYM&list=PLsKEUOGm0GB4tDPkhigFpNa8pdH0BiZyg 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 I was so pumped I did not notice the time am/pm was wrong... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishmn Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Man it made my day to relive 96 a bit. Although the 15' blizzard performed better for me accumulation wise 96 is still my favorite. Its not often you see S+ snow and 50 mph winds at 7F. I did that Sunday night. Those old Weather Channel graphics brought back some good memories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rclab Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 After reading the January discussion/observation thread, I generally need a pick me up so memory lane is generally the best bet. I received this photo today and recalled that I attended my first pro baseball game ever at Ebbets Field over 60 years ago. It was Pee Wee Reese night. I remember his daughter having to pick a set of keys out of a fish bowl for one of 5 cars. There was an Imperial and a Chevy at the value extremes. I remember my father saying to my Uncle. Heaven help that kid if she picks the Chevy and sure enough........ I also attended Roy Campanella night. On one of those nights the fans were asked that if they didn’t have a candle or flashlight to instead lift up a lit book of matches, when a multi candle birthday cake was rolled out. 30,000 plus, packed into a small stadium, did so. Safety regs were a bit looser then. Unc did you ever get to go to Ebbets Field? Many more kid friendly day games at that time. Well back to the real world, sadly, in the January thread. As always ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1994... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastalplainsnowman Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 On 12/30/2020 at 10:00 PM, Wentzadelphia said: Since 12/30/00 is being discussed. Famartin has an incredible archive. His YouTube page has tons of nostalgic vids. From 12/30/00 What’s really strange is I vividly remember the weather channels miss Cleo infomercials in the late 90s early 2000s lmao. I actually recall watching this clip live. Once again, no clue why but I remember every detail of this storm well I'm real late to the party here, but I remember tracking this storm, begging the r/s line to stay away, and taking screenshots of the radar from the accuweather site. I took about 20 of these. Here's how dang close it got to me in SE Nassau: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 On 1/9/2021 at 1:39 PM, coastalplainsnowman said: I'm real late to the party here, but I remember tracking this storm, begging the r/s line to stay away, and taking screenshots of the radar from the accuweather site. I took about 20 of these. Here's how dang close it got to me in SE Nassau: I wish it was always like that with a storm that takes that track lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisy Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 On 1/9/2021 at 1:39 PM, coastalplainsnowman said: I'm real late to the party here, but I remember tracking this storm, begging the r/s line to stay away, and taking screenshots of the radar from the accuweather site. I took about 20 of these. Here's how dang close it got to me in SE Nassau: Those radar charts take me back lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I wish they had radar like that in 1964 when a major blizzard hit the area with high winds and single digit temperatures... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 10 years ago we got a nice miller b 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooralph Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Also late to the Party... Blizzard of 96 remains my all-time favorite. Had just returned to C'Ville from winter break... did so early knowing storm was coming. No school yet, nothing to do. 23" that fell was more impactful than storms I've experienced since in Boston and NYC because they couldn't keep up with plowing of course! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooralph Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Also late to the party re: 12/30/00, but I suspect that one inflicted some trauma on @wdrag. That remains the greatest bust of my lifetime in Boston metro. If I recall, NWS had to walk back the WSW from 8-14" (may have been 10-16") down to 4-8... 3-6... and in the city we wound up with - I swear - wet pavement. Nada after an hour of wet snow it both changed over and we got dry slotted. Incredible. Outside of 128 I think it was a 10" storm, but inside it was a total bust and the gradient reached 0 in the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdrag Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 34 minutes ago, hooralph said: Also late to the party re: 12/30/00, but I suspect that one inflicted some trauma on @wdrag. That remains the greatest bust of my lifetime in Boston metro. If I recall, NWS had to walk back the WSW from 8-14" (may have been 10-16") down to 4-8... 3-6... and in the city we wound up with - I swear - wet pavement. Nada after an hour of wet snow it both changed over and we got dry slotted. Incredible. Outside of 128 I think it was a 10" storm, but inside it was a total bust and the gradient reached 0 in the city. Thanks for the plug. Trauma processed, but I can't even remember that bust. Sorry. I just had to move on and try to improve. I think the chances of those busts have lessened quite bit with our past 20 years of improved forecast tools-processes (ensembles, positive snow depth changes, BUFKIT-Tsection analysis, snow ratio's, snow physics understandings, collaboration with the parent center=WPC). I hope you agree. Regards, Walt 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rclab Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 2 hours ago, wdrag said: Thanks for the plug. Trauma processed, but I can't even remember that bust. Sorry. I just had to move on and try to improve. I think the chances of those busts have lessened quite bit with our past 20 years of improved forecast tools-processes (ensembles, positive snow depth changes, BUFKIT-Tsection analysis, snow ratio's, snow physics understandings, collaboration with the parent center=WPC). I hope you agree. Regards, Walt W, a few old sayings I remember from work “one “oh ####” is worth a thousand “ attaboys” and “What have you done for me lately” WELL you WD have done a lot, as I’m sure many of us will agree, for us lately. For that I personally Thank You for your competence, use of personal time and your demeanor. As always .... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 3 hours ago, hooralph said: Also late to the Party... Blizzard of 96 remains my all-time favorite. Had just returned to C'Ville from winter break... did so early knowing storm was coming. No school yet, nothing to do. 23" that fell was more impactful than storms I've experienced since in Boston and NYC because they couldn't keep up with plowing of course! I spent much of the blizzard on a bus headed back to school in state college pissed that I was going to miss it. We still got 18" but nothing like back east Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdrag Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 57 minutes ago, rclab said: W, a few old sayings I remember from work “one “oh ####” is worth a thousand “ attaboys” and “What have you done for me lately” WELL you WD have done a lot, as I’m sure many of us will agree, for us lately. For that I personally Thank You for your competence, use of personal time and your demeanor. As always .... Thank you very much! Still trying to learn, remain relevant, push the envelope but maybe with a little less urgency than when at work. I don't miss the routine...just sooo many grids and trying to make the interoffice collaborative process work with unexpected differing gridded word outcomes, and of course meshing (ruffling feathers sometimes and not always correctly) differing forecaster approaches to various situations including HWO, WWA announcements. I do miss the people, the learning, challenges. Soon back to a pt retired county job... and then much less forum, and eventually in a few years possibly little forecaster forum when the models become even better, leaving less room for event outcome discussion. The forum has been a good addition to my daily life in this quieter necessarily restricted living of the past year. Thank you American Weather! Walt 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Coming up on the 5th anniversary of one of the greatest snowstorms of all time. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rclab Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, bluewave said: Coming up in the 5th anniversary of one of the greatest snowstorms of all time. Folks close together, full faces showing, joyful fun in the snow. It seems as from another distant time and era. Someday, perhaps again ...... As always .... 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 17 hours ago, hooralph said: Also late to the party re: 12/30/00, but I suspect that one inflicted some trauma on @wdrag. That remains the greatest bust of my lifetime in Boston metro. If I recall, NWS had to walk back the WSW from 8-14" (may have been 10-16") down to 4-8... 3-6... and in the city we wound up with - I swear - wet pavement. Nada after an hour of wet snow it both changed over and we got dry slotted. Incredible. Outside of 128 I think it was a 10" storm, but inside it was a total bust and the gradient reached 0 in the city. You made up for it in March 2001 lol. The big busts down here were April 1997 (8-16 predicted, got 1-3), March 2001 (2 - 3 ft predicted and got 3-5 inches on the back end), January 2008 (last heavy snow warning event, it mostly rained with a few flakes mixed in) and some also consider January 2015 a bust since 2-3 feet were predicted and except for eastern LI, the rest of us were a foot or less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Very fluffy snow. Not even .25" liquid 30 to 1 ratios, back when clippers were a thing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stemwinder Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 13 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said: Very fluffy snow. Not even .25" liquid 30 to 1 ratios, back when clippers were a thing This was the first "real" snow event I encountered after moving back East after 31 years in CA. http://www.raymondcmartinjr.com/weather/2004/15-Jan-04.html I landed in EWR a day after the December 2003 storm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Stormlover74 said: Very fluffy snow. Not even .25" liquid 30 to 1 ratios, back when clippers were a thing I think LGA had like 80:1 ratios while the rest of the area was around 40:1 ratios. I think that was the "sunrise snowstorm" I remember with the snow looking pink as it fell in front of the rising sun. And then in winter 2009-10 in February we had the "sunset snowstorm" where pink snow fell at sunset! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 4 hours ago, LibertyBell said: I think LGA had like 80:1 ratios while the rest of the area was around 40:1 ratios. I think that was the "sunrise snowstorm" I remember with the snow looking pink as it fell in front of the rising sun. And then in winter 2009-10 in February we had the "sunset snowstorm" where pink snow fell at sunset! I'd call that an "asos ratio" since that was back when all ASOS was even worse at snow:liquid ratios than it is now... back when all they had was tipping buckets. Now some (including all that measure snow) have weighing gauges. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 2 hours ago, famartin said: I'd call that an "asos ratio" since that was back when all ASOS was even worse at snow:liquid ratios than it is now... back when all they had was tipping buckets. Now some (including all that measure snow) have weighing gauges. I remember back then you did some investigating and concluded that the LGA ASOS especially was out of whack. And that the 40:1 ratios of the other stations were more reasonable but still probably off and the true ratio was probably more like 25:1 Does that sound about right, Ray? It was like a storm the midwest might see- surprised we didn't get a blizzard warning here, but I guess the winds weren't high enough for long enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1983... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 3 hours ago, LibertyBell said: I remember back then you did some investigating and concluded that the LGA ASOS especially was out of whack. And that the 40:1 ratios of the other stations were more reasonable but still probably off and the true ratio was probably more like 25:1 Does that sound about right, Ray? It was like a storm the midwest might see- surprised we didn't get a blizzard warning here, but I guess the winds weren't high enough for long enough. That sounds vaguely familiar but honestly my memory isn't all that clear from back then anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 On 1/16/2021 at 9:25 AM, uncle W said: 1983... Uncle, got anything from the April 1983 snow that was our latest measurable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 3 hours ago, LibertyBell said: Uncle, got anything from the April 1983 snow that was our latest measurable? I had it but taped over it by mistake... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooralph Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 On 1/13/2021 at 8:24 AM, wdrag said: Thanks for the plug. Trauma processed, but I can't even remember that bust. Sorry. I just had to move on and try to improve. I think the chances of those busts have lessened quite bit with our past 20 years of improved forecast tools-processes (ensembles, positive snow depth changes, BUFKIT-Tsection analysis, snow ratio's, snow physics understandings, collaboration with the parent center=WPC). I hope you agree. Regards, Walt It may have stuck more in my mind as we were coming off several pretty bleak winters and it was my first chance for a big storm in 5 years (I moved back to Boston in April 97 two weeks after the blizzard). Walt, your AFD's were always a riveting reading! I always learned a lot and your passion always came through. In the days long before most pro mets would dare to tread in the waters of these boards, your AFD's felt like they were written for us weenies! As the March 2001 storm approached I was emailed you directly in my delirium to ask questions and couldn't believe you took the time to respond. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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