shadowsintherain Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 This is a bit dramatic, no? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericjcrash Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, shadowsintherain said: This is a bit dramatic, no? . No, just wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowsintherain Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Petering out now. Was a bit fun. I just thought the use of the word whiteout may have been a bit dramatic. Wind swept moderate snow for about 10 minutes. Now flurries here in Copiague. ‘‘Twas fun, and all we are going to get for a while. But whiteout? Definitely not. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowsintherain Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Just picked up with one last gust. That was a bit more fun. Some majorly reduced visibility on that one. Got a touch more on the lawn. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NycStormChaser Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 A literal uphill battle in Monticello yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinRP37 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 hour ago, shadowsintherain said: This is a bit dramatic, no? . You have to adequately panic the public!! I heard there was too much bread at the stores, so we need to create a run on bread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NycStormChaser Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, JustinRP37 said: You have to adequately panic the public!! I heard there was too much bread at the stores, so we need to create a run on bread. Tell that to the people involved in a deadly pileup in Pennsylvania earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 my station's min this winter is 2 on 1/21. will be close tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinRP37 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Just now, NycStormChaser said: Tell that to the people involved in a deadly pileup in Pennsylvania earlier. Tell that to the people in multiple accidents around THIS area that were let out of work early because of the squall instead of being told to wait it out. People got that alert and literally fled to the doors making what was a small event turn into a much worse situation on the roads. All roads are now back to normal around here and this is the normal rush hour. So no I'm not trying to make light of a tragic situation, but half the time lately these warnings put the fear of god into people. The alert should have said wait out the squall where you are. Once the line passes conditions will RAPIDLY improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NycStormChaser Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, JustinRP37 said: Tell that to the people in multiple accidents around THIS area that were let out of work early because of the squall instead of being told to wait it out. People got that alert and literally fled to the doors making what was a small event turn into a much worse situation on the roads. All roads are now back to normal around here and this is the normal rush hour. So no I'm not trying to make light of a tragic situation, but half the time lately these warnings put the fear of god into people. The alert should have said wait out the squall where you are. Once the line passes conditions will RAPIDLY improve. That sounds like an employer problem and a problem for people who think it's smart to get an an alert like that and proceed to get into their car and drive. The NWS job is to warn people. They don't tell people to leave work early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinRP37 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 minute ago, NycStormChaser said: That sounds like an employer problem and a problem for people who think it's smart to get an an alert like that and proceed to get into their car and drive. The NWS job is to warn people. They don't tell people to leave work early. While I agree their job is to keep people safe, they can improve the snow squall product. First that alert only goes out if the local area chooses too. NYC decided to make that weather alert a push notification to cell phones as an EAS alert. Second, with thunderstorm warnings they give very accurate timings as to the beginning and the approximate ending times as well. The same can be done for this weather product. Again, not trying to be a smart $ ss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NycStormChaser Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, JustinRP37 said: While I agree their job is to keep people safe, they can improve the snow squall product. First that alert only goes out if the local area chooses too. NYC decided to make that weather alert a push notification to cell phones as an EAS alert. Second, with thunderstorm warnings they give very accurate timings as to the beginning and the approximate ending times as well. The same can be done for this weather product. Again, not trying to be a smart $ ss. I agree with that 100%. That has been my issue with it since that small tornado hit college point, Queens over the summer. The damage path was maybe 10 blocks. Everyone in the 5 boroughs got the Tornado warning alert and freaked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwcMan Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Colder in Philadelphia than it is in Caribou atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmillz25 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 11 at the Park Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 26 minutes ago, TwcMan said: Colder in Philadelphia than it is in Caribou atm. Yeah but Caribou has a lot of snow OTG...but hey it looked like an all out snowstorm for ten mins or so on the Driscoll Bridge, even kinda scary. Can't get a decent snowstorm but we get this. Now if we can get that rate for maybe a few hours.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowsintherain Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Am I crazy or is it already colder than forecast?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Just now, shadowsintherain said: Am I crazy or is it already colder than forecast? . Well i just put the recycling out and my hands started to hurt; the dog bolted right in and was shivering even after he got inside. After that I thought, man, maybe winter really will get started here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman86 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 11 degrees here in Clifton NJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfa Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 13 degrees right now. 10 degrees colder than it was this time on Jan 20, bottomed out at 6 degrees the following morning. It’ll be interesting to see how cold it gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 26 minutes ago, dmillz25 said: 11 at the Park 1 degree colder than the NAM raw numbers forecast. http://wxcaster.com/models_text.htm http://68.226.77.253/text/NAMSFC/NAM_KNYC.txt 12 01/31 00Z 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasiluvsnow Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 is the NAM actually showing EDIT =something for late Friday nite ? ps its BRUTAL out right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 3 hours ago, JustinRP37 said: Tell that to the people in multiple accidents around THIS area that were let out of work early because of the squall instead of being told to wait it out. People got that alert and literally fled to the doors making what was a small event turn into a much worse situation on the roads. All roads are now back to normal around here and this is the normal rush hour. So no I'm not trying to make light of a tragic situation, but half the time lately these warnings put the fear of god into people. The alert should have said wait out the squall where you are. Once the line passes conditions will RAPIDLY improve. So, are you saying that we shouldn't warn people because they are too dumb to handle it? I say screw the idiots and let the ones with brains have information they can use to make good decisions. The SS Warning did indeed say to wait out the event until it had passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinRP37 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, NorthShoreWx said: So, are you saying that we shouldn't warn people because they are too dumb to handle it? I say screw the idiots and let the ones with brains have information they can use to make good decisions. The SS Warning did indeed say to wait out the event until it had passed. Not saying that at all. The original snow squall warning did not have anything saying "wait out the event until it had passed" or anything like that. Here in our area it did not include timings either. That led to a lot of miscommunications just before the squall's arrival. I noticed that eastern Mass and Maine did get that included with their warnings along with the timing of the arrival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 13 hours ago, qg_omega said: It's extreme historic cold for the Midwest, not so much for the East Coast. I'm not expecting many records to fall. It's still going to be frigid, even if it isn't record-setting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 In the wake of an Arctic front that brought a brief period of whiteout conditions to much of the region, bitterly cold air has sent the mercury tumbling into the single digits in a growing part of the area. At 9 pm, the temperature in Central Park was just 9°. Earlier today, Chicago had a low temperature of -23°. That was that city's coldest reading sinc January 20, 1985 when the temperature fell to -27°. The high temperature was an icy -10°. That is only the fourth time on record that Chicago had a high temperature of -10° or lower. The SOI was +3.02 today. While the MJO moves through Phase 6, the SOI could continue to retain positive values, as is currently the case. Afterward, it will likely return to negative values. The Arctic Oscillation (AO) was -1.503. The preliminary average for meteorological winter is -0.230. On January 29, the MJO was in Phase 6 with an amplitude of 1.577 (RMM). That amplitude had fallen fairly sharply from the January 28-adjusted figure of 1.985. The MJO will continue to advance through Phase 6 and then move into Phase 7 within perhaps 1-4 days. Upon reaching Phase 7, its amplitude could decline toward low amplitude values. It remains uncertain whether the MJO will reach Phase 8 before it either reaches low amplitude values or possibly reverses to Phase 6. The risks of a turn toward Phase 6 or a drop to low amplitude prior to any move to Phase 8 have increased somewhat in recent days. Nevertheless, the MJO will likely remain at a high amplitude into at least the first week of February. For the month as a whole, the MJO will likely be at a high amplitude (1.000 or above) for a considerable part of February. The MJO will likely remain at a predominantly high amplitude during February. Following the shot of extreme cold, a period of moderation appears likely during the middle of the first week of February. The operational ECMWF, GFS, and EPS forecast high temperatures in the 50s during the February 3-5 period in the northern Middle Atlantic and southern New England areas. Farther south, parts of the Middle Atlantic region could experience a high temperature of 60° or above. Colder air should follow by the end of that week. There is a possibility that a predominantly colder than normal regime could then lock in for at least a 2-3 week period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 5 hours ago, shadowsintherain said: Petering out now. Was a bit fun. I just thought the use of the word whiteout may have been a bit dramatic. Wind swept moderate snow for about 10 minutes. Now flurries here in Copiague. ‘‘Twas fun, and all we are going to get for a while. But whiteout? Definitely not. . I can tell by how much less snow you have then I had on the uws that it was a different event there. We did have true whiteout conditions for a few min. I actually had to plow drifts between buildings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qg_omega Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 48 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said: It's still going to be frigid, even if it isn't record-setting. Greater chance of record warm next week then record cold around these parts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycwinter Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 does nyc has a shot of reaching zero tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_other_guy Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 3.9F Lost 1.1 degrees in 45 mins. I will go out on a limb and say tonight will be the big story of this winter Enjoy it boys, it may be the best we get! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 37 minutes ago, qg_omega said: Greater chance of record warm next week then record cold around these parts Next week's record highs are a bit too warm (mainly upper 60s and one 70° reading). Central Park does have a chance to beat its record low maximum temperature tomorrow. The record is 16°. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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