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January 2019 General Discussion & Observations


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The first changes are beginning to occur even ahead of the larger pattern change. The SOI was -7.30. That was its lowest figure since November 19 when it was -7.51. Today also marked the 2nd consecutive day on which the SOI was negative for the first time since November 18-19.

Once the MJO moves into Phase 6--something that is likely in the next two days--following the December record 13-consecutive days in Phase 5 (through December 30), the pattern change will be drawing closer.

As it moves further in Phase 7, Atlantic blocking will become increasingly likely. For the third consecutive day, the GEFS show strong agreement among its ensemble members for the development of a sustained negative AO (which would have wintry implications both for North America and Europe).

For the next 7-10 days, though, the apparent weather will remain generally warmer than normal. No moderate or larger snowstorms are likely in and around the New York City area through January 10.

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11 minutes ago, Brasiluvsnow said:

A few of you have mentioned SOI can someone explain what that is and how it effects us ? Thanx

The Southern Oscillation Index (SOI) is a measure of the intensity or strength of the Walker Circulation. It is one of the key atmospheric indices for gauging the strength of El Niño and La Niña events and their potential impacts .

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/MJO/enso.shtml

https://www.longpaddock.qld.gov.au/soi/

https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/ensocycle/soi.shtml

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/glossary/soi.shtml

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2 hours ago, donsutherland1 said:

The first changes are beginning to occur even ahead of the larger pattern change. The SOI was -7.30. That was its lowest figure since November 19 when it was -7.51. Today also marked the 2nd consecutive day on which the SOI was negative for the first time since November 18-19.

Once the MJO moves into Phase 6--something that is likely in the next two days--following the December record 13-consecutive days in Phase 5 (through December 30), the pattern change will be drawing closer.

As it moves further in Phase 7, Atlantic blocking will become increasingly likely. For the third consecutive day, the GEFS show strong agreement among its ensemble members for the development of a sustained negative AO (which would have wintry implications both for North America and Europe).

For the next 7-10 days, though, the apparent weather will remain generally warmer than normal. No moderate or larger snowstorms are likely in and around the New York City area through January 10.

The Euro weeklies (IF correct) have it above normal until January 15th, then start the pattern change transition January 15th and it’s complete by January 21st. The pattern finally goes below normal come January 21st or shortly thereafter and beyond, again if the ECMWF weeklies are indeed correct, I guess we’ll see

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Some patience is needed. The first week of January will likely be exceptionally warm (probably among the 15-20 warmest starts to January in the region). The second week could be cooler, but probably still warmer than normal, as the MJO moves into Phase  7. It’s afterward where the potential for a more dramatic turn to colder weather could occur, as happened in 1966 and 2005, should sustained Atlantic blocking develop. But that’s way in the future so we’ll have to see how things evolve.

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3 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said:

Some patience is needed. The first week of January will likely be exceptionally warm (probably among the 15-20 warmest starts to January in the region). The second week could be cooler, but probably still warmer than normal, as the MJO moves into Phase  7. It’s afterward where the potential for a more dramatic turn to colder weather could occur, as happened in 1966 and 2005 should sustained Atlantic blocking develop. But that’s way in the future so we’ll have to see how things evolve.

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35 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said:

Some patience is needed. The first week of January will likely be exceptionally warm (probably among the 15-20 warmest starts to January in the region). The second week could be cooler, but probably still warmer than normal, as the MJO moves into Phase  7. It’s afterward where the potential for a more dramatic turn to colder weather could occur, as happened in 1966 and 2005, should sustained Atlantic blocking develop. But that’s way in the future so we’ll have to see how things evolve.

Right. It looks above normal until the 21st. I think the big question is and Snowgoose brought this up the other day, once the pattern change occurs, does it go cold and dry/suppressed? Eventually Mother Nature is going to turn the faucet off. Especially if we have a TPV dropping south, cold and dry may be a definite risk, especially for awhile after the change. Law of averages, we can’t keep a wet pattern like this forever, even with an active STJ

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2 minutes ago, snowman19 said:

Right. It looks above normal until the 21st. I think the big question is and Snowgoose brought this up the other day, once the pattern change occurs, does it go cold and dry/suppressed? Eventually Mother Nature is going to turn the faucet off. Especially if we have a TPV dropping south, cold and dry may be a definite risk, especially for awhile after the change. Law of averages, we can’t keep a wet pattern like this forever, even with an active STJ

21st? Seems late

I like around the 10-15.

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2 minutes ago, snowman19 said:

Right. It looks above normal until the 21st. I think the big question is and Snowgoose brought this up the other day, once the pattern change occurs, does it go cold and dry/suppressed? Eventually Mother Nature is going to turn the faucet off. Especially if we have a TPV dropping south, cold and dry may be a definite risk, especially for awhile after the change. Law of averages, we can’t keep a wet pattern like this forever, even with an active STJ

It probably ends up turning before 1/20.  Especially now that the Euro seems to have moved towards the phase 8 idea and is probably still underdone.  It may be a transient better period but I wouldn’t be surprised if 1/10-1/20 averages near normal with a snow event 

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Just now, Snow88 said:

21st? Seems late

I like around the 10-15.

The Euro has us in transition 1/15-1/21, still not yet a cold pattern during that transition period. I like that timing, I think it really does take until about the 21st or so before we are in a solid below normal regime

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20 minutes ago, snowman19 said:

Right. It looks above normal until the 21st. I think the big question is and Snowgoose brought this up the other day, once the pattern change occurs, does it go cold and dry/suppressed? Eventually Mother Nature is going to turn the faucet off. Especially if we have a TPV dropping south, cold and dry may be a definite risk, especially for awhile after the change. Law of averages, we can’t keep a wet pattern like this forever, even with an active STJ

Big changes from a wet to dry regime or vice versa are difficult to forecast with much confidence. Eventually, things will become drier. 

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The 12z GEFS finally caved to the milder EPS day 6-10. Notice how much the GEFS has been struggling with the fire hose Pacific Jet. You will know a pattern change is finally at hand when the day 6-10 stops correcting milder.

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Old run

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