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January 2019 Discussion


40/70 Benchmark

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Hey Kevin, stoughton isn’t a town near the water.   

 

First thing I do is take a look at the overnight model runs.  Seeing nothing changed and then read the bs from people taking a post that the poster admitted as tongue in cheek and running wild.

ths place can sure suck sometimes.

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10 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

Cosgrove is claiming that the SSW is going to "fade away" over the next 10 days...makes zero sense, since it takes 10-14 days to even have an impact.

He’s a pretty good MET...I hope he’s wrong on that though???  I agree it doesn’t make sense, but then again...he’s the Pro.  Must be seeing something that is leading him to say that? 

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22 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

They can fade, but the effects if the pathway allows, continue to downwell. There is no immediate response. 

He must mean that the SSW itself is fading because its peaking today...I though that he meant the impacts are fading.

It looks like Ventrice is saying that it will focus in Siberia.

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1 minute ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

He must mean that the SSW itself is fading because its peaking today...I though that he  meant the impacts are fading.

It looks like Ventrice is saying that it will focus in Siberia.

As long as the AO is negative. The 500 pattern seems similar to what I see at 50mb. Keep a chunk of cold near Hudson Bay and once the Pacific improves, I think we'd be ok.

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2 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

As long as the AO is negative. The 500 pattern seems similar to what I see at 50mb. Keep a chunk of cold near Hudson Bay and once the Pacific improves, I think we'd be ok.

TBH, I think this is less risky for our snow chances than if it had been more toward our side. It worked out last year because it was over the N ATL, but the last thing that I want is a PV near NNE...hello 2004, 2010.

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15 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said:

We are emotionally selfish beings. It takes lots of work to change our natural flaws. 

I guess after 72 years I have my snow weenie side but there are so many more meaningful things in life.  Give me a few months and I’ll let you know what they are....lol.

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Part of the weenie meltdowns is we can't buy a snow event even in these mediocre to crappy patterns. Usually we pull one or two events out of those...even if they are 3" that melt in 2 days. We just haven't done anything so it starts getting everyone irrationally pessimistic. 

They become the gamblers who are convinced that because the roulette wheel came up black 8 times in a row, they have an advantage by betting black next spin...the casino then laughs to the bank with their 5.5% advantage. 

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As much as I hated getting boned (relatively speaking compared to the rest of most of SNE) the past several years, it has made me apathetic these days.

I vividly remember the tough winters for snow lovers in the 80's/early 90's but if I end up experiencing another stretch like that then so be it. It won't be any worse than all the disappointments of recent years...actually I know it will be easier to handle.

 

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1 minute ago, Hoth said:

All we care about at this range. How are they in the LR?

Looks good. I'm throwing this out there now, but 16-17 or so will get dicey. Think of it as the ups and downs. The downs are slowly getting better. One more down maybe 16-17 and then back up we go for a little while at least. The GEFS continue to look better than the EPS, but the EPS are slowly getting there.

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40 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

Part of the weenie meltdowns is we can't buy a snow event even in these mediocre to crappy patterns. Usually we pull one or two events out of those...even if they are 3" that melt in 2 days. We just haven't done anything so it starts getting everyone irrationally pessimistic. 

They become the gamblers who are convinced that because the roulette wheel came up black 8 times in a row, they have an advantage by betting black next spin...the casino then laughs to the bank with their 5.5% advantage. 

Well ...when models continue to struggle w fast extremely long zonal flow, it’s not unlikely that a modeled phase 7,8,9 days out goes poof , as many times as they pop up. Because of this pathetic winter in Sne people have paid more attention to 8-10 day “storms” so there is 2 reasons ...we can assume they are going to crap

the 1-2” threats have been a mix of bad luck and people looking at them w weenie glasses (“ 2 more snow storms , another “1-3”)

going forward now , we can see how more favorable flow becomes 

 

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1 hour ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

Cosgrove is claiming that the SSW is going to "fade away" over the next 10 days...makes zero sense, since it takes 10-14 days to even have an impact...and the PV is just now splitting.

Actually Cosgrove wrote" as of now the SSW looks to be in fade mode in the 11-15 day period" 

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1 minute ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

Yea. My misquote...but its actually peaking now and will be fading over the next week. Larry meant the actual warming, not its sensible impacts.

You know Ray, I was looking at the clown map for the event coming up and seeing those totals for North......hard to keep the faith down here...lol

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34 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said:

Well ...when models continue to struggle w fast extremely long zonal flow, it’s not unlikely that a modeled phase 7,8,9 days out goes poof , as many times as they pop up. Because of this pathetic winter in Sne people have paid more attention to 8-10 day “storms” so there is 2 reasons ...we can assume they are going to crap

the 1-2” threats have been a mix of bad luck and people looking at them w weenie glasses (“ 2 more snow storms , another “1-3”)

going forward now , we can see how more favorable flow becomes 

 

It is unlikely that the favorable period goes to crap...climo says so.

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