Itstrainingtime Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 minute ago, bubbler86 said: Yoda posted them. Obviously a better ending than the GFS. What that map seems to be showing is secondary development on the coast - man if we can get that to happen at the right latitude... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPITSnow Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, bubbler86 said: Yoda posted them. Obviously a better ending than the GFS. I feel like for us in swpa we could just copy and paste this snow map for most storms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WmsptWx Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 When was the last time places south and west of Pittsburgh got a decent snowfall? I always consider that part of the state to have similar weather to the rest of the Ohio Valley and never consider it to be much of a haven for heavy snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, KPITSnow said: I feel like for us in swpa we could just copy and paste this snow map for most storms. Yea, you guys need a large Miller A. I bet you get screwed by B's all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 minute ago, bubbler86 said: Yea, you guys need a large Miller A. I bet you get screwed by B's all the time. Yep, either a big bowling ball across the mid south or something like March '93. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 All eyes on the King. If it comes closer to Ukie, I'll be ecstatic. That said it probably puts the system in Montreal lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daxx Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Sorry guys enjoying whiteout conditions right now. Euro looks really weak with first event. Maybe inch or two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPITSnow Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, Atomixwx said: When was the last time places south and west of Pittsburgh got a decent snowfall? I always consider that part of the state to have similar weather to the rest of the Ohio Valley and never consider it to be much of a haven for heavy snow. The January 2016 storm crushed places south of us. Allegheny county, as so often seems to be the case, was the cutoff. Places like uniontowb and waynesburg I believe got a foot and a half. Pittsburgh itself got 5 inches or so. It seems that everywhere within 50-100 miles has had huge 12-24 inch storms is the past 5 or 6 years while we always mix it fringe. As far as miller b’s go, they almost always cause slop for us. My general rule is to move the mix line 50 miles north of forecast. Miller a’s usually miss is to the east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwilson Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, Atomixwx said: When was the last time places south and west of Pittsburgh got a decent snowfall? I always consider that part of the state to have similar weather to the rest of the Ohio Valley and never consider it to be much of a haven for heavy snow. 2010 pretty much. 2016 was close, but the gradient ran the other direction (from south to north). Areas in northern WV got >20" but I think the city saw less than five. Pittsburgh only has four storms in history that have exceeded 20" of snowfall. Too far west for Miller B's and usually too far northwest for Miller A's. Plus the orientation of the Appalachians means a warm surge of air rides up the western spine if lows get too close. The opposite of CAD. Kind of a terrible place for big snow storms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlislePaWx Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 34 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said: Here's your Horst response Carlisle: E. Horst, MU WIC@MUweather (2/2) The 2nd storm looks to track directly over us, which usually means a variety of precip types. While a 12"+ of snow is likely from northern PA into interior New England. Locally, it's not yet set in stone, but... E. Horst, MU WIC@MUweather Replying to @MUweather (2+) ...I can see a thumping of snow & sleet to start (perhaps a few inches), then a change to rain (pockets of freezing rain?), and a brief change back to snow before ending midday Sunday. The coldest air of the season--a true #ArcticBlast --then drops in for a 2-day visit. 42m Thanks. It helps to realize that he really is focused on Lancaster/MU vicinity with his discussions. Residing 50 miles west helps. Actually, his verbiage still leaves the door open to sway towards more frozen or freezing at this early point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daxx Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Hour 84 snowing for all 850 still south Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daxx Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Hour 87 nice thump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Just now, daxx said: Hour 87 nice thump It is sounding promising. Not driving a low up west of PA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlislePaWx Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, jwilson said: 2010 pretty much. 2016 was close, but the gradient ran the other direction (from south to north). Areas in northern WV got >20" but I think the city saw less than five. Pittsburgh only has four storms in history that have exceeded 20" of snowfall. Too far west for Miller B's and usually too far northwest for Miller A's. Plus the orientation of the Appalachians means a warm surge of air rides up the western spine if lows get too close. The opposite of CAD. Kind of a terrible place for big snow storms. One of those had to include November 1950. Would have loved to have been around to witness that storm. Newark (NJ) airport had sustained hurricane force winds for 12 hours with torrential rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daxx Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 90 850 goes above southern parts lsv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daxx Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 After that north and west get a beat down. Lsv surface close to ice. Still warms above freezing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlislePaWx Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 minute ago, daxx said: After that north and west get a beat down. Lsv surface close to ice. Still warms above freezing So not a substantial change overall to 0Z solution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daxx Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Surface actually gets above freezing a good bit north Sunday morning. Scratch that not far north at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daxx Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Highest I see is 32 at Harrisburg early Sunday morning. A little warmer south of there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cashtown_Coop Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 MA crew saying west of Frederick never gets above freezing. Freezing Rain may become a concern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pasnownut Posted January 16, 2019 Author Share Posted January 16, 2019 Did anyone take a peek at GEFS and if so what it show. I’m on the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WmsptWx Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 I'm wondering if the I-81 corridor in Cumberland county is going to be where the precipitation type change occurs. Areas north and west of that line from Enola down to Greencastle stay frozen with a solid thump and areas south and east of there deal with a little more liquid. Daxx, would that be a close interpretation of the run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daxx Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Just now, Cashtown_Coop said: MA crew saying west of Frederick never gets above freezing. Yea... This run is looking more of a snow to ice back to some snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cashtown_Coop Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Snow to ice to backend snow to arctic front Um yes please. #Glacier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CarlislePaWx Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, daxx said: Highest I see is 32 at Harrisburg early Sunday morning. A little warmer south of there. Well...sounds promising for little to no melting of whatever snow we get. Locking in the snow with a nice layer of ice is a great way to keep the overall snowcover anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, pasnownut said: Did anyone take a peek at GEFS and if so what it show. I’m on the road. The mean is pretty wound up but does go south of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwilson Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, CarlislePaWx said: One of those had to include November 1950. Would have loved to have been around to witness that storm. Newark (NJ) airport had sustained hurricane force winds for 12 hours with torrential rain. You are correct. 1950 is #1, actually, with 27.4" of snow. The fact that the biggest snow for the area occurred in November tells you all you need to know, really. In fact, Pittsburgh hasn't even approached a 20" storm in January since 1886. Basically, it would be unprecedented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daxx Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Mag, Williamsport and 2001 should be dancing in the streets with that run! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlislePaWx Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Just now, Superstorm said: . Doesn't that look almost exactly like the UKIE map? Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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