IrishRob17 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, Dan76 said: Problem solved http://www.biffybag.com/index.html My #2 son wanted me to put up the tailgate shelter which would then allow for cigars too but who can’t be trusted to take it down before the wind advisory kicks in? Yeah, not me nor him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 20 hours ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said: 500 low and surface low aligned. So all you had to do was be on the left side of the storm track. Also excellent cold air entrainment with the CCB. And a really sharp cutoff to the SW. we had a dusting in Baltimore, and it’s not that far from philly. I wish every storm was like that we'd have a lot more snow lol. I feel bad for Philly and Baltimore though- there's always a sharp cut off to the west but this one had a really narrow area of heavy snow. It's like that in typical la nina snowstorms isn't it? I remember Boxing Day was like that too and so was that notorious virga snowstorm of Feb 1989 that was supposed to give us 6-8" and all we got was virga and overcast skies while Atlantic City got 19" Philly got screwed in that one too! Of course every rule has an exception and Jan 1996 broke every rule in terms of la nina snowstorms lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 20 hours ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said: That was one of those storms where the airmass was so marginal the urban heat island killed accumulations. Yeah I remember watching the Yankees home opener and it seemed to be snowing pretty hard in The Bronx but they kept the game going even though you could see snow accumulating on the players' caps lol. Out here on Long Island we did a lot better- even JFK did a lot better. The urban heat island was so bad that it even killed the city's accumulations at night while we kept accumulating all night. That would have been an epic snowstorm in the middle of January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 5 hours ago, weatherpruf said: 93-94. Not as much total snow as 96, but plenty of storms. And a couple of rare ice events to boot, and a massive sleet event in March. Plus the two mini blizzards in Feb. And I did all this with a stinkin shovel... One of those mini blizzards had massive thundersnow during the day- I think thats the first time I can actually remember seeing lightning along with snow falling. The rates were tremendous during the day, a rare treat! All the storms that winter ended up delivering more snow and ice than originally forecast even though most of them did later mix or change over. The city ran out of salt that year. The rare combo of snow, ice and cold made it actually seem more harsh than 1995-96. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntenseBlizzard2014 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 This is looking a bit grim. Looks like late January may be the change to cold and snowy weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_other_guy Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 When can we stick a fork in calling it a “good winter?” Meaning, if on 1/20 we get 6 weeks of snow and cold...is it still a “good winter?” At some point we have to acknowledge that whatever happens past 1/15, a good chunk of winter was garbage, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
495weatherguy Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Just now, jfklganyc said: When can we stick a fork in calling it a “good winter?” Meaning, if on 1/20 we get 6 weeks of snow and cold...is it still a “good winter?” At some point we have to acknowledge that whatever happens past 1/15, a good chunk of winter was garbage, no? I agree with this in theory, but wouldn’t we have to wait to see what March brings? If March is cold and wet/snowy, we can still get 8-10 weeks of winter—which would be awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowshack Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Just now, jfklganyc said: When can we stick a fork in calling it a “good winter?” Meaning, if on 1/20 we get 6 weeks of snow and cold...is it still a “good winter?” At some point we have to acknowledge that whatever happens past 1/15, a good chunk of winter was garbage, no? No doubt. We can rack up decent totals after 1/15, but no matter the totals it would be difficult to recall this as a good winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 what a difference a year makes...last year we were in the grip of an arctic outbreak and a storm was on the horizon...this year is the opposite...the temps are close to record highs today...1966, 1919, 1973 were all el nino years...2005 too...4 of the five warmest New Years day came during an el nino...two more el nino years show up in the record high minimums...the last time the city had a very cold New Years day and the next year was warm was 100 years ago... NYC's almanac for Jan. 1. Highest max. Lowest max. Highest min. Lowest min. Max. precipitation.....snowfall.....est. max snow depth... 62 in 1966.....10 in 1918.....52 in 1966......-4 in 1918.....2.05" in 1888.....9.0" in 1869..........15" in 1948 61 in 1919.....16 in 1881.....50 in 1979.......1 in 1881.....1.68" in 1923.....6.4" in 1971..........12" in 2011 60 in 1973.....18 in 1899.....45 in 1973.......7 in 2018.....1.52" in 2003.....5.0" in 1877..........12" in 1873 60 in 1979.....19 in 2018.....45 in 2007.......7 in 1875.....1.52" in 2007.....4.0" in 1947..........11" in 2001 60 in 2005.....20 in 1900.....44 in 1952.......8 in 1899.....1.32" in 1893.....3.0" in 1899............9" in 1869 Philadelphia 1/1 Highest max. Lowest max. Highest min. Lowest min. Max. precipitation.....snowfall........ 64 in 2005.....16 in 1918.....48 in 1966.......4 in 1881.....1.60" in 1948.....5.3" in 1971 62 in 1973.....19 in 1899.....45 in 1979.......5 in 1918.....1.58" in 1888.....3.5" in 1899 61 in 1979+...21 in 1881.....44 in 2007+.....7 in 1899.....1.44" in 2007.....2.5" in 1876 + also in earlier years... 1869...snowstorm... http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030272/1869-01-02/ed-1/seq-1/ http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1869-01-02/ed-1/seq-8/ http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030313/1869-01-02/ed-1/seq-4/ 1873... http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1873-01-02/ed-1/seq-5/ 1888... http://nyshistoricnewspapers.org/lccn/sn83030193/1888-01-02/ed-1/seq-2/ 1899... http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1899-01-02/ed-1/seq-4/ 1949 from the Brooklyn Eagle... http://bklyn.newspapers.com/image/52872109/ http://bklyn.newspapers.com/image/52872138 1948... http://bklyn.newspapers.com/image/52810758/ http://bklyn.newspapers.com/image/52810762 1947... http://bklyn.newspapers.com/image/52675774/ http://bklyn.newspapers.com/image/52675793 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Winter 2018-2019, an exercise in moving goal posts. (2011-2012 sends it’s regards) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 10 hours ago, LibertyBell said: One of those mini blizzards had massive thundersnow during the day- I think thats the first time I can actually remember seeing lightning along with snow falling. The rates were tremendous during the day, a rare treat! All the storms that winter ended up delivering more snow and ice than originally forecast even though most of them did later mix or change over. The city ran out of salt that year. The rare combo of snow, ice and cold made it actually seem more harsh than 1995-96. You couldn't even buy table salt around here for a week or so. No sand, no kitty litter, nothin. And Home Depot was not on every corner yet. God I miss those kinda winters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Its always 10 days away..its always 10 days away..its always 10 days away. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 NJ Governor Phil Murphy called mother nature and said to cancel winter after the November snowstorm debacle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 22 hours ago, jfklganyc said: When can we stick a fork in calling it a “good winter?” Meaning, if on 1/20 we get 6 weeks of snow and cold...is it still a “good winter?” At some point we have to acknowledge that whatever happens past 1/15, a good chunk of winter was garbage, no? the odds of a "great winter" (think-93-94, 95-96) are shrinking each passing day....still a shot at a 12-13 or 14-15 type winter which had alot of action late... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 11 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: the odds of a "great winter" (think-93-94, 95-96) are shrinking each passing day....still a shot at a 12-13 or 14-15 type winter which had alot of action late... People were hoping for something like 02-03 but the lack of activity in December ruined that. But remember what that winter did February-April, hope for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rclab Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 5 hours ago, Rtd208 said: Its always 10 days away..its always 10 days away..its always 10 days away. It would probably take a January tornado, touch down, in an empty CPK. SheepMeadow to jump start pattern change. As always... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwx85 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 All I can say is remember March 2018 We all thought Winter was over last February when temperatures soared into the 70's and the entire period was well above normal with little snowfall. Then we hit March and suddenly the pattern locked in and we got hit four times in one month. I know the weenies want cold and snow from December to April but it's just not realistic. This isn't Green Bay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastalplainsnowman Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Agreed. Only problem for me is that over time I've come to much prefer a snowy meterological winter, followed by warmth in March/April (what we used to call springlike weather but what I think is better defined as mid springlike weather), over these winters that get a late start and make for miserably chilly March/Aprils. Like most snow fans I'm always looking ahead, and a snowfall that sticks around during a post storm cold snap is the best. 93/94 was awesome for that, and even though 95/96 had its multiple warmups, that storm that hit a few days before Christmas and stuck around in the crisp cold for a week was great. It's not the same when it falls in March/April. Those are just as fun when they're happening, but they're a grey muddy sloppy mess 6 hours later. I suppose the last ~15 years have spoiled me. In the 80s I'd have taken any snowfall deep enough to cover the grass whenever I could get it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 The coast will probably still get a blizzard at some point this winter. It's tradition. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfa Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, Juliancolton said: The coast will probably still get a blizzard at some point this winter. It's tradition. agree 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriPol Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 What was the summer of 1998 like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 We were a mini tornado alley this year. Good thing these are typically lower end events here. https://mobile.twitter.com/splillo/status/1080178107515047944 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
495weatherguy Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 5 hours ago, NJwx85 said: All I can say is remember March 2018 We all thought Winter was over last February when temperatures soared into the 70's and the entire period was well above normal with little snowfall. Then we hit March and suddenly the pattern locked in and we got hit four times in one month. I know the weenies want cold and snow from December to April but it's just not realistic. This isn't Green Bay. Excellent post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriPol Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 5 hours ago, NJwx85 said: All I can say is remember March 2018 We all thought Winter was over last February when temperatures soared into the 70's and the entire period was well above normal with little snowfall. Then we hit March and suddenly the pattern locked in and we got hit four times in one month. I know the weenies want cold and snow from December to April but it's just not realistic. This isn't Green Bay. A few weeks ago we were saying wait until early Jan. Then it became mid-January. Now some are saying forget January and focus on Feb. We have our first "March" post and it's January 2. This is bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwx85 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, TriPol said: A few weeks ago we were saying wait until early Jan. Then it became mid-January. Now some are saying forget January and focus on Feb. We have our first "March" post and it's January 2. This is bad. If you think this is bad, then you haven't been around long enough. This is what happens when you don't have blocking. It's always a thread the needle type deal. We could very well get lucky and squeeze out a storm or two in this pattern if things break right. The panic though is just ridiculous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
495weatherguy Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 58 minutes ago, forkyfork said: agree I hope you are wrong on this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfa Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 What I don’t want is a cold/snowy early spring. We’ve seen enough of those. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
495weatherguy Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Cfa said: What I don’t want is a cold/snowy early spring. We’ve seen enough of those. Yes. Would love for a good old fashioned spring to a hot, sunny, extended summer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyWx Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 15 minutes ago, Cfa said: What I don’t want is a cold/snowy early spring. We’ve seen enough of those. Definitely. We've had this new trend of slow starts to winter with lasting cold into Spring. Not many things worse than cold and rainy weather in April. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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