bluewave Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 9 hours ago, Juliancolton said: Just checked out of curiosity, and EWR had as many 95+ days in 2018 as POU has had since 2014. We don't do heat well up here. 1 hour ago, gravitylover said: Ehh, they can keep it It's weird though how 90 up here feels so hot compared to 95+ down there. Newark is the 95 degree day leader of the Northeast. But my part of Long Island near the South Shore has fewer 95 degree or warmer days than POU. For areas north of 40N in the US you have to get out into the Plains to see more 95 degree or warmer days than Newark. 95 degree or warmer days since 2014 POU...11 ALB....9 BTV....9 BOS...19 HFD....23 ISP.....3 JFK....5 LGA....24 EWR...41 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, bluewave said: Newark is the 95 degree day leader of the Northeast. But my part of Long Island near the South Shore has fewer 95 degree or warmer days than POU. For areas north of 40N in the US you have to get out into the Plains to see more 95 degree or warmer days than Newark. 95 degree or warmer days since 2014 POU...11 ALB....9 BTV....9 BOS...19 BDL....23 ISP.....3 JFK....5 LGA....24 EWR...41 Growing up on the south shore, Oceanside, I don't remember many 95+ days at all. Where is the thermometer placed in Newark? Surrounded by asphalt, open to the SSW...? You want to know where 95 feels unbearable, try Alaska. Anything over ~80 feels oppressive and when it gets into the 90's your skin fries in minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 1 hour ago, gravitylover said: Growing up on the south shore, Oceanside, I don't remember many 95+ days at all. Where is the thermometer placed in Newark? Surrounded by asphalt, open to the SSW...? You want to know where 95 feels unbearable, try Alaska. Anything over ~80 feels oppressive and when it gets into the 90's your skin fries in minutes. The ASOS is a pretty standard sitting for an airport. If anything, it’s more prone to cooling from bay breezes on some days than the surrounding areas. The area around Newark is the hottest part of New Jersey. There is another weather station which I believe is a coop located nearby in Harrison. That station got even hotter than the airport during the early July 2018 heatwave. Harrison 7-1-18....99/78 7-2-18....101/76 7-3-18....98/78 7-4-18....96/76 Newark...EWR 7-1-18......98/77 7-2-18......96/75 7-3-18......94/77 7-4-18......89/76 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 11 hours ago, dave0176 said: I can say I’m pretty much done with winter, don’t get me wrong I love a lot of snow and extreme cold, I’m a steam boiler guy my business depends on cold. But it also depends on AC in the summer. However I love summer more, I love extreme heat, I love July days 95-100 degrees with the sun out, with the daylight now extending my body is telling me it’s time to go outside but it’s still too cold. After St.Paddys day I am truly done and hoping we have some sort of spring this year. Also hoping to have a hot summer not a steamy one like the last 3 or 4 seem to have been. I have two Harley’s and they got cabin fever, I’m a fair weather rider so no rain or cold riding for me. I know a few good guys in local 68 and they all seem to like the heat as well, some were Navy guys. One even bought a house in Colombia ( and he's Irish ) but me I can't take the heat. There's nothing like a nice mild summer in ME on a clear lake full of bass and white perch, among other things. I see you're in Port Reading; I used to love dumping my old boat in the water at Sewaren and powering out to the bay for a day of flounder fishing in the spring and fluke and blues in the summer ( it was before the striped bass rebounded and now have started to decline again ) but I have had it with hot weather. For one, the sun causes skin cancer and you really have to cover up in it; the greasy sunscreen doesn't do anything but prevent a burn you're still getting the damaging rays. They make great clothes for it today but in the humidity we have they still get hot. And the haze. The yellow haze that comes up in summer. You don't realize it til you go someplace where they don't have it. Those particulates are killing people. Hope you enjoy your Harleys and be careful! People just don't pay attention enough to either motorcycles or bicycles and I have known people injured seriously on both. Well, joggers too, but I digress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 9 hours ago, LibertyBell said: 95 sucks, I love round numbers, so 100 is a lot better. At least it looks better lol and you get to say you experienced 100 degree heat. Keep it around 70. Perfect. Anything over 75 gets uncomfortable, and at 100 I am not leaving the house. And I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 3 hours ago, ILoveWinter said: Haha true. But whatever the max possible temp NYC can reach pales to several other cities. I spent some time in Persian Gulf (Dubai and Doha) in summer and I can tell you that the heat was incredible. 115 easily and some days with excessive humidity (espec in Dubai though I think the world record heat index of 178 was at Dhahran Saudi Arabia with 108 at 95%). It was downright dangerous to be active outside for more than 10 mins - I of course was intrigued by all of it and did force myself to walk around just for the experience. So hot that I had to cover my cheeks with my hands due to the burn. My late dad was stationed in the Middle East during WW 2 and said he didn't bother to dry off after showering because by the time he got back to his tent he was dry. After the war he hated the heat and refused to visit friends in AZ and only bought a house in S Fl because my late mom loved FL so much. He'd go there in winter ( he didn't like cold either, was a teamster who drove through NYC winters all his life ) but not in summer. I miss them both every day. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 happy bust day 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 1 minute ago, forkyfork said: happy bust day The day that will live in infamy; cost a Philly met his job IIRC. Still takes the cake for biggest bust of all time here and we've had many; getting 5-10 in recent years when you expected 2 feet is a bust, sure; getting the dusting of sleet we had out here over two days is in a class by itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 4 hours ago, bluewave said: Newark is the 95 degree day leader of the Northeast. But my part of Long Island near the South Shore has fewer 95 degree or warmer days than POU. For areas north of 40N in the US you have to get out into the Plains to see more 95 degree or warmer days than Newark. 95 degree or warmer days since 2014 POU...11 ALB....9 BTV....9 BOS...19 HFD....23 ISP.....3 JFK....5 LGA....24 EWR...41 Thanks for compiling that for easy comparisons. I know BTV benefits from downsloping in the summertime, but that's still a higher count for there than I would have guessed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 3 hours ago, bluewave said: What about ACK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 49 minutes ago, Juliancolton said: Thanks for compiling that for easy comparisons. I know BTV benefits from downsloping in the summertime, but that's still a higher count for there than I would have guessed. Sure. 5 of those 95 degrees days at BTV were last July with the record warmest July at 76.0 and +5.4. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 30 minutes ago, Rjay said: What about ACK? That’s were you go to beat the heat. Looks like 90 was the warmest there since 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 3 hours ago, weatherpruf said: The day that will live in infamy; cost a Philly met his job IIRC. Still takes the cake for biggest bust of all time here and we've had many; getting 5-10 in recent years when you expected 2 feet is a bust, sure; getting the dusting of sleet we had out here over two days is in a class by itself. had the phase worked out properly nyc would have gotten 30+ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 26 minutes ago, forkyfork said: had the phase worked out properly nyc would have gotten 30+ I know. I remember the celebrations at work that we had dodged a bullet. This is the reaction most people have when they hear that snow isn't happening. I used to think it was an adult thing, but these days a lot of the kids don't even seem to like snow much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 The signs were there looking back-models gradually moved the goods N and E slowly but surely....plus the tendency for a later phase in general than models tend to show in these types of setups. Could not believe we went from feet to inches....got about 8-10 here in the end with much higher amounts just North and East of us. EPIC BUSTORAMA that hasn't been seen since. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Brian5671 said: The signs were there looking back-models gradually moved the goods N and E slowly but surely....plus the tendency for a later phase in general than models tend to show in these types of setups. Could not believe we went from feet to inches....got about 8-10 here in the end with much higher amounts just North and East of us. EPIC BUSTORAMA that hasn't been seen since. I think there’s another that happened 4 years ago that I’ve been actively trying to forget. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, Nibor said: I think there’s another that happened 4 years ago that I’ve been actively trying to forget. Saw that one coming earlier though....but the weather service, once committed to a warning, sometimes is slow to give up on it, maybe for sound reasons, i don't know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Brian5671 said: The signs were there looking back-models gradually moved the goods N and E slowly but surely....plus the tendency for a later phase in general than models tend to show in these types of setups. Could not believe we went from feet to inches....got about 8-10 here in the end with much higher amounts just North and East of us. EPIC BUSTORAMA that hasn't been seen since. 8-10 would have been ok, we had nothing but some light sleet, not enough to cover the grasstops. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, weatherpruf said: Saw that one coming earlier though....but the weather service, once committed to a warning, sometimes is slow to give up on it, maybe for sound reasons, i don't know. Perhaps I don’t remember it correctly because it’s been nearly 20 years but I remember the expected totals forecasted being lowered in increments as the storm got close over a few days. The Jan 15 bust was the day the Euro was no longer infallible. They had 24-36 inches for me at the onset of the storm. I ended with 5 lol. Both were terrible. Perhaps 2015 is just a fresher wound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 42 minutes ago, Nibor said: I think there’s another that happened 4 years ago that I’ve been actively trying to forget. Jan 2015 storm. Same deal here, Upton went 2-3 feet, got 8-10. 31 minutes ago, weatherpruf said: 8-10 would have been ok, we had nothing but some light sleet, not enough to cover the grasstops. Yeah we were lucky enough to catch the western edge of the CCB, NYC south and west was almost nothing at all....horrid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastalplainsnowman Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 10 hours ago, gravitylover said: Growing up on the south shore, Oceanside, I don't remember many 95+ days at all. Where is the thermometer placed in Newark? Surrounded by asphalt, open to the SSW...? You want to know where 95 feels unbearable, try Alaska. Anything over ~80 feels oppressive and when it gets into the 90's your skin fries in minutes. Hey just curious because I've been around a lot of middle school earth science material lately.. Why would 95 feel more unbearable in Alaska, and why would sunburn be greater? Long duration of insolation but relatively low angle, at least compared to the lower 48. Is it generally particularly humid when it gets that warm? Or is it just that its all relative and the 90s are harder to take after very low lows in the winter? Tried to get all the earth science I could into that response lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 1 hour ago, coastalplainsnowman said: Hey just curious because I've been around a lot of middle school earth science material lately.. Why would 95 feel more unbearable in Alaska, and why would sunburn be greater? Long duration of insolation but relatively low angle, at least compared to the lower 48. Is it generally particularly humid when it gets that warm? Or is it just that its all relative and the 90s are harder to take after very low lows in the winter? Tried to get all the earth science I could into that response lol. Good question. There are a few reasons that I can think of off the top of my head. First is that the ozone layer is thinner the further north you get so the sun is more powerful. Next is during the summer the sun angle that far north is very high at midday so it really cooks. Keep in mind that having 22 hours of sunlight means that it's hot for longer because it doesn't cool down completely. Hmm, yes it is quite humid when it gets like that because, at least in the areas I spent time, it's exceptionally lush so the evaporation rate is significant. I hadn't really thought about that aspect until you asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 21 minutes ago, gravitylover said: Good question. There are a few reasons that I can think of off the top of my head. First is that the ozone layer is thinner the further north you get so the sun is more powerful. Next is during the summer the sun angle that far north is very high at midday so it really cooks. Keep in mind that having 22 hours of sunlight means that it's hot for longer because it doesn't cool down completely. Hmm, yes it is quite humid when it gets like that because, at least in the areas I spent time, it's exceptionally lush so the evaporation rate is significant. I hadn't really thought about that aspect until you asked. It was a big problem in Chile too, with the govt often warning people on some days about sun intensity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Nibor said: Perhaps I don’t remember it correctly because it’s been nearly 20 years but I remember the expected totals forecasted being lowered in increments as the storm got close over a few days. The Jan 15 bust was the day the Euro was no longer infallible. They had 24-36 inches for me at the onset of the storm. I ended with 5 lol. Both were terrible. Perhaps 2015 is just a fresher wound. March 2017 was equally as bad around here, they never dropped the warning and we got around 5 or so of sleet, no real snow. Impressive sleet, but still.....and the 2nd storm last March too, 4 inches. This happens enough these days that I question the efficacy of the models, which ultimately can't always tell what will happen. And also Feb 6 2010, I was expected to get 8-12. Got 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 37 minutes ago, weatherpruf said: It was a big problem in Chile too, with the govt often warning people on some days about sun intensity. The further south you get in Chile the more similar it is to going far north in North America in relation to summertime sun angles and ozone layer thickness and effectiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 8 hours ago, gravitylover said: The further south you get in Chile the more similar it is to going far north in North America in relation to summertime sun angles and ozone layer thickness and effectiveness. Yes a friend is a physician down there, it's a serious concern; people think of South Americans are darker skinned and less likely to get skin cancer but this is untrue, for one, darker skinned people can and do get skin cancer ( though it tends to be on the hands and feet ) and there are plenty of light skinned folks in South America, and also, when the ozone layer is thinned, the rays are going to be more powerful, as I understand it. OTOH, it is believed vitamin D levels are directly related to enough sun exposure and may prevent many diseases. But I think you only need about 20 minutes worth ( which is enough to burn for some folks ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_other_guy Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Check out this photo from Belleayre yesterday. What a great winter they are having! Im also enjoying the winter week of snow covered ground and cold down by us! 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jm1220 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 On 3/6/2019 at 10:35 AM, jfklganyc said: Check out this photo from Belleayre yesterday. What a great winter they are having! Im also enjoying the winter week of snow covered ground and cold down by us! Places in the sun are patchy coverage by me, but shaded areas still have a few inches or more of cement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 hour ago, jm1220 said: Places in the sun are patchy coverage by me, but shaded areas still have a few inches or more of cement. I totally forgot you moved out of LB, I was thinking what!?!? There is absolutely nothing left on the south shore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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