Brian5671 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 10 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said: Do you guys realize it’s January and your talking about this winter in the past tense? I get it, I’m more frustrated as anyone as you guys who are regulars know. But we still have more then half of our snow climo left. I will agree on one thing, if we do not see a turn around and we end up below average snow it will be damaging to long range forecasters. I just do not see how it’s even possible we make it through the rest of the winter without at least one advisory level event. Even 97/98 managed to pull it off and that was light years more hostile for snow then this winter One advisory level will take us to 11-12 type dud-that's why people are talking about it in the past tense. LOL. In all seriousness-the ship has sailed on any long lasting snow cover or big wintry period. Looks mainly snowless next 7-10 days as well... Hoping we can get a MECS or HECS to salvage it.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 2 hours ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said: Do you guys realize it’s January and your talking about this winter in the past tense? I get it, I’m more frustrated as anyone as you guys who are regulars know. But we still have more then half of our snow climo left. I will agree on one thing, if we do not see a turn around and we end up below average snow it will be damaging to long range forecasters. I just do not see how it’s even possible we make it through the rest of the winter without at least one advisory level event. Even 97/98 managed to pull it off and that was light years more hostile for snow then this winter Not everyone had an advisory event in 98. We had but a dusting in March out here. It's the tail end of Jan. While 2015 stands out, in my 56 years, when it hasn't done much by Feb 1st, it tends to stay that way. Hopefully this won't be the case. As for March, meh. If it snows it won't last, if it's under about 7 inches you don't need to bother shoveling. Sometimes it melts off driveways and streets by the end of the storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Brian5671 said: One advisory level will take us to 11-12 type dud-that's why people are talking about it in the past tense. LOL. In all seriousness-the ship has sailed on any long lasting snow cover or big wintry period. Looks mainly snowless next 7-10 days as well... Hoping we can get a MECS or HECS to salvage it.... Yeah when the heart of the second half is going to lose some days to a warmup, you really are looking at something having to come together in a brief window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
495weatherguy Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 4 hours ago, Brian5671 said: Fair point, but what's gone on in the past 20 years is not typical here... so true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycwinter Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 scientist on pbs says this polar vortex intrusion is the result of climate change.. i wonder if that was the same case in 1996... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NycStormChaser Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NycStormChaser Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 1 hour ago, nycwinter said: scientist on pbs says this polar vortex intrusion is the result of climate change.. i wonder if that was the same case in 1996... Probably considering climate change isn't new Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericjcrash Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 10 minutes ago, NycStormChaser said: Brilliant 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForestHillWx Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 25 minutes ago, NycStormChaser said: Probably considering climate change isn't new The climate has changed for the better part of 4 billion years; but I digress. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 7 hours ago, NorthShoreWx said: I think this winter has been kind of interesting. I'd prefer [lots] more snow, but it hasn't been boring. Still not boring. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, NorthShoreWx said: Still not boring. It's boring. Cold rain, heck even not so cold rain, followed by some cold temps. Maybe you don't suffer from winter skin rashes but I certainly do; the went away for the warm period we had in Dec. Soon as it got cold, it comes right back. The best thing that can happen right now is an early spring. We can start looking forward to next winter then. And I'll never buy a snowblower again if it snows in OCt or Nov, because in my lifetime that has meant a fairly snowless winter ( al 4 of them lol ). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 15 hours ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said: Do you guys realize it’s January and your talking about this winter in the past tense? I get it, I’m more frustrated as anyone as you guys who are regulars know. But we still have more then half of our snow climo left. I will agree on one thing, if we do not see a turn around and we end up below average snow it will be damaging to long range forecasters. I just do not see how it’s even possible we make it through the rest of the winter without at least one advisory level event. Even 97/98 managed to pull it off and that was light years more hostile for snow then this winter actually it not being hostile to snow makes the winter worse, there's been money sucking cold dry air like there was in the 80s, winters like these are why people hated the 80s so much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 On 1/29/2019 at 6:57 PM, bluewave said: Seems like Stella in March 2017 opened the door for more interior jackpots. The coast really ran the table from 12-13 to Feb 17. Since then, it has been more of a duel between interior vs coastal sections for the heaviest snowfall accumulations. But 13-14 was more of an interior winter. Last winter was actually really good for the coast. That Jan blizzard was the best since 2016. March was more of an inland month until the end of the month and early April. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 On 1/30/2019 at 12:08 AM, David-LI said: The midwest will always be bullseye for very cold weather. You are wrong in believing that such cold air masses never hit the northeast. We are about to get hit really hard with the PV. yes, cold weather generally favors inland areas far away from any oceans. If you like extreme cold thats where you want to be, not near the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 17 hours ago, Brian5671 said: Fair point, but what's gone on in the past 20 years is not typical here... this winter isn't either, I'm not sure there is a "mean"- if you look at the late 1800s and early 1900s NYC had five straight decades where they averaged over 30 inches of snow- how do we know thats not the "mean"? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 17 hours ago, Ericjcrash said: Yep, and several more. maybe maybe not- there is no such thing as "average" when it comes to snowfall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Warming up my towel to throw for winter. Depending where we are this time next week it may be time to toss. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, Rtd208 said: Warming up my towel to throw for winter. Depending where we are this time next week it may be time to toss. I felt that way after the Nov storm based on experience LOL, but even I thought that was pure superstition. As nothing happened in Dec and then into Jan, I thought well, here we go, we were due for this. I kept hope alive from reading here, but I'm not seeing anything encouraging. Nothing to track but cold rain, noting popping up here or there, just an all around bad vibe. And wasted cold. I do not care for these arctic shots at all. They hurt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 1 hour ago, LibertyBell said: actually it not being hostile to snow makes the winter worse, there's been money sucking cold dry air like there was in the 80s, winters like these are why people hated the 80s so much. There were plenty of other reasons to have disliked the 80's too. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CPcantmeasuresnow Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 5 hours ago, gravitylover said: There were plenty of other reasons to have disliked the 80's too. The biggest reason would have been disco, but thank God disco died in the early 80's. Thank you Bruce, U2, Tom Petty, Mellencamp and the legends of punk and metal that all helped bring it down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 15 hours ago, weatherpruf said: It's boring. Cold rain, heck even not so cold rain, followed by some cold temps. Maybe you don't suffer from winter skin rashes but I certainly do; the went away for the warm period we had in Dec. Soon as it got cold, it comes right back. The best thing that can happen right now is an early spring. We can start looking forward to next winter then. And I'll never buy a snowblower again if it snows in OCt or Nov, because in my lifetime that has meant a fairly snowless winter ( al 4 of them lol ). My wish for you is a little sunshine in your life. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 It's 8F and snow on my untreated driveway is melting. Sun angle season is upon us. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 7 hours ago, Rtd208 said: Warming up my towel to throw for winter. Depending where we are this time next week it may be time to toss. I bailed a couple of weeks ago when the MJO went back to the crappy phases and it was evident there was going to be little to no Atlantic help.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 6 hours ago, weatherpruf said: I felt that way after the Nov storm based on experience LOL, but even I thought that was pure superstition. As nothing happened in Dec and then into Jan, I thought well, here we go, we were due for this. I kept hope alive from reading here, but I'm not seeing anything encouraging. Nothing to track but cold rain, noting popping up here or there, just an all around bad vibe. And wasted cold. I do not care for these arctic shots at all. They hurt. I joked in November "wouldn't that be something if the 11/15 storm was the biggest of the season"? Not joking anymore... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan76 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Yup...dirt in back yard has a muddy layer on top. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan76 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Just now, Brian5671 said: I joked in November "wouldn't that be something if the 11/15 storm was the biggest of the season"? Not joking anymore... Said the same thing but 88 threw rocks at me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, Dan76 said: Said the same thing but 88 threw rocks at me. Even he is running out of ammo at this point.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan76 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 I plow snow and this year is the latest that i didn't even put the plow on in 15 yrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 28 minutes ago, Juliancolton said: It's 8F and snow on my untreated driveway is melting. Sun angle season is upon us. I wouldn’t say melting as much as sublimating. It’s extrenly high ratio stuff and it doesn’t take much to make it go away 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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