Holston_River_Rambler Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Here is a magical selection of EPS 45 day snowfall maps. There were more that looked good, but these seemed the best board wide to me. And then one not so good at the end to balance it all out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holston_River_Rambler Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 And, let's take a moment to pay our respects to a pitiful, low level circulation in E. KY coming here to die: Also, what in the world happened to the low cloud deck in N. central AR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrgjeff Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 North Ark benefits from downslope off the Ozarks. Must be nice. Never happens in CHA. Kansas let Texas stay too close last night. Syracuse took down Duke at Cameron, wow! Thankfully Tennessee is the early game tonight. I'm not a fan of staying up for the late game. Saturday Showcase (ESPN) will be a gem. Kansas at UWV then Auburn hosts Kentucky. Tennessee hosts Bama on ESPN2 vs the usual SECN. I'm happy about that! Then Sunday I will try and remember to breathe while the Chiefs host the Pats. European weekly charts also show soccer culture in Chattanooga. CFC Blue is our team. No Red Wolves. Better DEAD than RED! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holston_River_Rambler Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 1 minute ago, nrgjeff said: Must be nice. No joke! It's like all the low clouds in E North America come to E TN to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carvers Gap Posted January 15, 2019 Author Share Posted January 15, 2019 3 hours ago, nrgjeff said: North Ark benefits from downslope off the Ozarks. Must be nice. Never happens in CHA. Kansas let Texas stay too close last night. Syracuse took down Duke at Cameron, wow! Thankfully Tennessee is the early game tonight. I'm not a fan of staying up for the late game. Saturday Showcase (ESPN) will be a gem. Kansas at UWV then Auburn hosts Kentucky. Tennessee hosts Bama on ESPN2 vs the usual SECN. I'm happy about that! Then Sunday I will try and remember to breathe while the Chiefs host the Pats. European weekly charts also show soccer culture in Chattanooga. CFC Blue is our team. No Red Wolves. Better DEAD than RED! What is the wx for the Kansas City game? Have heard very cold and windy. Should be interesting seeing two teams that play outside in the cold go at it...no dome teams struggling to acclimate in this one. Grown man football in the cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Hot Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Carvers Gap said: What is the wx for the Kansas City game? Have heard very cold and windy. Should be interesting seeing two teams that play outside in the cold go at it...no dome teams struggling to acclimate in this one. Grown man football in the cold. High is supposed to be 8 degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnweathernut Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 12 minutes ago, Icy Hot said: High is supposed to be 8 degrees. and it's at night............ brrrr! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holston_River_Rambler Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 konfuzion. I haz it: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMZ8990 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 On 1/12/2019 at 7:08 PM, jaxjagman said: I just saw this Jax, good stuff!! Lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrgjeff Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Go with the one that blanks Chattanooga, and you're good. 13 hours ago, Holston_River_Rambler said: konfuzion. I haz it: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holston_River_Rambler Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Yeah, I looked like there was either a glitch in the system that produces the output or someone photoshopped that Also, glad I got my 666th post out of the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillT Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 trying to find stuff about the weather but there is nothing at the other place about weather, just banter and BS, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Hot Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 hour ago, BillT said: trying to find stuff about the weather but there is nothing at the other place about weather, just banter and BS, And people crying about the sky falling and always getting rain and 33. Hello - You live in the South. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jaxjagman Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Fixing to head to Chicago in a bit for my sons gymnastics meet this weekend Friday night through Wednesday... The primary concerns during the extended forecast continue to focus on: -Snow amounts Friday night and Saturday. -The threat for a period of moderate to heavy lake effect snow with additional accumulations over portions of far northeastern IL and northwest IN Saturday night into Sunday. -The period of very cold weather expected Sunday and Monday. -More periods of active weather next week, which could result in more accumulating snow. Not much has changed from previous thinking with the storm system expected to shift eastward across the Ozarks and into the TN valley on Saturday. While the main track of this storm system will remain well south of the area, there are good chances for accumulating snow over our area Friday night into at least Saturday morning. Model guidance continues to suggest that a strong band of 850-700 mb frontogenesis will develop somewhere over northern IL/southern WI beginning late Friday, but really ramping up Friday evening and night. While the actual placement of this band of frontogenesis, and the associated heaviest snow potential, may shift some in the guidance over the next 24 to 36 hours as forecast guidance continues to hone in how this mesoscale setup will evolve over the area, signs continue to point at northern IL (mainly north of I-80) Friday night. The before focus for snow then appears to shift over the southern half of my CWA into Saturday in association with the main storm system moving into the TN Valley. Overall, this setup could result in two maximum areas of snow over the area; one potentially over far northern IL, with a second over my southern CWA. There is some increasing concern for heavy snow associated with the band of snow Friday night over northern IL. Given the good feed of moisture into the area, with 700 mb mixing ratios expected to be around 2.8 g/kg,this should result in some effect snowfall. This should especially be the case given that the frontogenetic forcing for ascent looks to produce good ascent right through the favored dendritic growth zone. With all this in mind, along with the fact that we should have fairly high snow ratios of 14-16 to 1, we could easily see some areas of northern IL end up with 6+ inches of snow through Saturday morning. Thereafter, the main synoptic snow should begin to focus over my southern CWA by Saturday afternoon, where amounts here in the 4" to 6" range appear probable through Saturday evening. Increasing northeast winds during the day Saturday, may also result in some blowing and drifting snow issues, especially in open areas. The next concern will be the lake effect snow following the main system snow. While some lake enhancement could keep light snow going over portions of northeastern IL Saturday afternoon, it appears that the better thermodyamics set up for heavy lake effect snow may hold off until sometime late Saturday evening or night. Strong lake induced instability is likely to setup over southern Lake Michigan Saturday night through Sunday as 850 mb temps drop to around -18C, essentially setting up ~20C temperature differences between the lake temperature. Inversion heights should reach around 6000-6500 feet, which should cut right through the dendritic growth zone, so this should be sufficient to support heavy lake effect snow. While the specifics will take time to iron out, the synoptic pressure pattern of low pressure moving up the east coast and a strong surface high building over the Upper Midwest looks favorable for the potential development of a single band of heavy lake effect snow. This band looks to start over northeastern IL Saturday night into Sunday morning, before gradually shifting over northwestern IN during the day Sunday. The main question that remains is residence time of the band over any given area, which will have large implications on the amount of snow that falls. A winter storm watch may be needed for parts of northern IL, north of I-80 from Friday night into Saturday, with the watch possibly being needed for far northeastern IL through Sunday morning, due to the continued lake effect threat. We have opted to hold off on any headline at this time though, to let the day shift get another look at this snow event. Otherwise, expect cold conditions over the area for Sunday and Monday. Highs both days in the teens look likely, with overnight lows below zero in some areas of IL. We could also have some -10 or colder wind chills Sunday night. The weather pattern looks to remain active into next week. This looks to result in more storm systems to keep an eye on for the potential for more accumulating snow across the area. KJB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnweathernut Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 5 hours ago, jaxjagman said: Fixing to head to Chicago in a bit for my sons gymnastics meet this weekend Friday night through Wednesday... The primary concerns during the extended forecast continue to focus on: -Snow amounts Friday night and Saturday. -The threat for a period of moderate to heavy lake effect snow with additional accumulations over portions of far northeastern IL and northwest IN Saturday night into Sunday. -The period of very cold weather expected Sunday and Monday. -More periods of active weather next week, which could result in more accumulating snow. Not much has changed from previous thinking with the storm system expected to shift eastward across the Ozarks and into the TN valley on Saturday. While the main track of this storm system will remain well south of the area, there are good chances for accumulating snow over our area Friday night into at least Saturday morning. Model guidance continues to suggest that a strong band of 850-700 mb frontogenesis will develop somewhere over northern IL/southern WI beginning late Friday, but really ramping up Friday evening and night. While the actual placement of this band of frontogenesis, and the associated heaviest snow potential, may shift some in the guidance over the next 24 to 36 hours as forecast guidance continues to hone in how this mesoscale setup will evolve over the area, signs continue to point at northern IL (mainly north of I-80) Friday night. The before focus for snow then appears to shift over the southern half of my CWA into Saturday in association with the main storm system moving into the TN Valley. Overall, this setup could result in two maximum areas of snow over the area; one potentially over far northern IL, with a second over my southern CWA. There is some increasing concern for heavy snow associated with the band of snow Friday night over northern IL. Given the good feed of moisture into the area, with 700 mb mixing ratios expected to be around 2.8 g/kg,this should result in some effect snowfall. This should especially be the case given that the frontogenetic forcing for ascent looks to produce good ascent right through the favored dendritic growth zone. With all this in mind, along with the fact that we should have fairly high snow ratios of 14-16 to 1, we could easily see some areas of northern IL end up with 6+ inches of snow through Saturday morning. Thereafter, the main synoptic snow should begin to focus over my southern CWA by Saturday afternoon, where amounts here in the 4" to 6" range appear probable through Saturday evening. Increasing northeast winds during the day Saturday, may also result in some blowing and drifting snow issues, especially in open areas. The next concern will be the lake effect snow following the main system snow. While some lake enhancement could keep light snow going over portions of northeastern IL Saturday afternoon, it appears that the better thermodyamics set up for heavy lake effect snow may hold off until sometime late Saturday evening or night. Strong lake induced instability is likely to setup over southern Lake Michigan Saturday night through Sunday as 850 mb temps drop to around -18C, essentially setting up ~20C temperature differences between the lake temperature. Inversion heights should reach around 6000-6500 feet, which should cut right through the dendritic growth zone, so this should be sufficient to support heavy lake effect snow. While the specifics will take time to iron out, the synoptic pressure pattern of low pressure moving up the east coast and a strong surface high building over the Upper Midwest looks favorable for the potential development of a single band of heavy lake effect snow. This band looks to start over northeastern IL Saturday night into Sunday morning, before gradually shifting over northwestern IN during the day Sunday. The main question that remains is residence time of the band over any given area, which will have large implications on the amount of snow that falls. A winter storm watch may be needed for parts of northern IL, north of I-80 from Friday night into Saturday, with the watch possibly being needed for far northeastern IL through Sunday morning, due to the continued lake effect threat. We have opted to hold off on any headline at this time though, to let the day shift get another look at this snow event. Otherwise, expect cold conditions over the area for Sunday and Monday. Highs both days in the teens look likely, with overnight lows below zero in some areas of IL. We could also have some -10 or colder wind chills Sunday night. The weather pattern looks to remain active into next week. This looks to result in more storm systems to keep an eye on for the potential for more accumulating snow across the area. KJB Good luck to your son with his gymnastics meet! Good luck to you in seeing snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holston_River_Rambler Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 EPS 12z member 3: We take? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 9 hours ago, tnweathernut said: Good luck to your son with his gymnastics meet! Good luck to you in seeing snow. Thanks,hope we see something.Hope we dont get stuck here also,i want to leave Sunday morn ...lol Tonight Cloudy, with a low around 26. West northwest wind around 5 mph. Friday A 50 percent chance of snow after 3pm. Cloudy, with a steady temperature around 27. North northwest wind 5 to 15 mph becoming east northeast in the afternoon. Friday Night Snow. The snow could be heavy at times. Patchy blowing snow after midnight. Steady temperature around 29. Blustery, with an east northeast wind 15 to 20 mph, with gusts as high as 30 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 3 to 7 inches possible. Saturday Snow, mainly before noon. Patchy blowing snow. High near 26. Blustery, with a northeast wind 20 to 25 mph, with gusts as high as 35 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%. New snow accumulation of 1 to 3 inches possible. Saturday Night Snow showers likely. Cloudy, with a low around 18. Blustery, with a north northeast wind 15 to 20 mph, with gusts as high as 35 mph. Chance of precipitation is 70%. Sunday Snow showers likely, mainly before noon. Partly sunny, with a high near 19. Chance of precipitation is 60%. Sunday Night A 20 percent chance of snow showers. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrgjeff Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Good luck at the meet @jaxjagman and safe travel. I think Illinois will get the roads passable even if cold reduces effectiveness of road treatment. Wind could help evaporate or sublime water too. Regarding the endless cloud cover the last few weeks, we may need a Sanitarium thread in here of our own. Clear Sunday night for the lunar eclipse would buy me a little more time of sanity. Chiefs better win too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillT Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 this is the stuff i enjoy, watching the actual storm as it moves towards us......right now the low is at the top of the texas panhandle projected to move east but now moving ese......temps here in walker county were forecast to be in the low 60s but so far 50 is the high every day this week has been at least 10 degrees cooler than forecast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holston_River_Rambler Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 I saw this strange thing in the sky this afternoon for a few minutes. It was really weird. At first I was concerned there might be something wrong. The grey sky became blotched with a blue color. Then, and you're not going to believe this, some sort of light disk appeared to shine behind the comforting grey shades of the heavens and even seemed to radiate through the blue patches. Inuit-Aleut languages have many's a word for snow and Ireland supposed has 50 shades of green. Does that leave us in the eastern valley in the winter with 50 shades of .... Well, now that I think of that, not going there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillT Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 the low that was supposed to move east across southern kansas is instead near the tex/okla border slowly moving ese....split into another back in new mexico last night these pieces of energy were moving SE from the pacific down through oregon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMZ8990 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 On 1/17/2019 at 9:02 AM, jaxjagman said: Fixing to head to Chicago in a bit for my sons gymnastics meet this weekend Friday night through Wednesday... The primary concerns during the extended forecast continue to focus on: -Snow amounts Friday night and Saturday. -The threat for a period of moderate to heavy lake effect snow with additional accumulations over portions of far northeastern IL and northwest IN Saturday night into Sunday. -The period of very cold weather expected Sunday and Monday. -More periods of active weather next week, which could result in more accumulating snow. Not much has changed from previous thinking with the storm system expected to shift eastward across the Ozarks and into the TN valley on Saturday. While the main track of this storm system will remain well south of the area, there are good chances for accumulating snow over our area Friday night into at least Saturday morning. Model guidance continues to suggest that a strong band of 850-700 mb frontogenesis will develop somewhere over northern IL/southern WI beginning late Friday, but really ramping up Friday evening and night. While the actual placement of this band of frontogenesis, and the associated heaviest snow potential, may shift some in the guidance over the next 24 to 36 hours as forecast guidance continues to hone in how this mesoscale setup will evolve over the area, signs continue to point at northern IL (mainly north of I-80) Friday night. The before focus for snow then appears to shift over the southern half of my CWA into Saturday in association with the main storm system moving into the TN Valley. Overall, this setup could result in two maximum areas of snow over the area; one potentially over far northern IL, with a second over my southern CWA. There is some increasing concern for heavy snow associated with the band of snow Friday night over northern IL. Given the good feed of moisture into the area, with 700 mb mixing ratios expected to be around 2.8 g/kg,this should result in some effect snowfall. This should especially be the case given that the frontogenetic forcing for ascent looks to produce good ascent right through the favored dendritic growth zone. With all this in mind, along with the fact that we should have fairly high snow ratios of 14-16 to 1, we could easily see some areas of northern IL end up with 6+ inches of snow through Saturday morning. Thereafter, the main synoptic snow should begin to focus over my southern CWA by Saturday afternoon, where amounts here in the 4" to 6" range appear probable through Saturday evening. Increasing northeast winds during the day Saturday, may also result in some blowing and drifting snow issues, especially in open areas. The next concern will be the lake effect snow following the main system snow. While some lake enhancement could keep light snow going over portions of northeastern IL Saturday afternoon, it appears that the better thermodyamics set up for heavy lake effect snow may hold off until sometime late Saturday evening or night. Strong lake induced instability is likely to setup over southern Lake Michigan Saturday night through Sunday as 850 mb temps drop to around -18C, essentially setting up ~20C temperature differences between the lake temperature. Inversion heights should reach around 6000-6500 feet, which should cut right through the dendritic growth zone, so this should be sufficient to support heavy lake effect snow. While the specifics will take time to iron out, the synoptic pressure pattern of low pressure moving up the east coast and a strong surface high building over the Upper Midwest looks favorable for the potential development of a single band of heavy lake effect snow. This band looks to start over northeastern IL Saturday night into Sunday morning, before gradually shifting over northwestern IN during the day Sunday. The main question that remains is residence time of the band over any given area, which will have large implications on the amount of snow that falls. A winter storm watch may be needed for parts of northern IL, north of I-80 from Friday night into Saturday, with the watch possibly being needed for far northeastern IL through Sunday morning, due to the continued lake effect threat. We have opted to hold off on any headline at this time though, to let the day shift get another look at this snow event. Otherwise, expect cold conditions over the area for Sunday and Monday. Highs both days in the teens look likely, with overnight lows below zero in some areas of IL. We could also have some -10 or colder wind chills Sunday night. The weather pattern looks to remain active into next week. This looks to result in more storm systems to keep an eye on for the potential for more accumulating snow across the area. KJB Are you snowed in yet buddy?? Hope your sons meet is going well too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holston_River_Rambler Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 First full basketball game I've watched in a while. Felt like watching the NAM, but getting an unexpected last 12 hour NW trend in your favor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 8 hours ago, AMZ8990 said: Are you snowed in yet buddy?? Hope your sons meet is going well too! Really don't know how much we got,but it was coming down, tough to tell with the winds.The lake effect snows are starting to kick in now,they are calling for 2-4" tonight.If i were to guess it was 6+ so far.I'll post some pics when i get back home Thanks for asking about my son,he's had a stress fracture in his right hand,he's had it all season.He hasn't been able to compete or practice on the pommel horse all season but last week he started back practicing on it again.His coach was going to let him do it yesterday but it was his first event so he didn't want him to compete since he had five other events for that day and lack of practice since.It wasn't his best day but he did get 2nd place over-all on the parallel bars,think in 3 weeks we go to Knoxville,then a week after that sin city (Las Vegas) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 We should see a nice band starting to develop here shortly National Weather Service Chicago/Romeoville, IL 806 PM CST Sat Jan 19 2019 .UPDATE... 806 PM CST For Evening Update... No significant changes to going forecast this evening. Light lake effect snow showers showing increasing coverage as expected, with high-res guidance remaining similar in depiction of transition to a more intense single-band structure late this evening. Going forecast has this detailed nicely, with headlines structured appropriately. Evening surface analysis depicts 996 mb low pressure south of the Ohio River over east central Kentucky. Tight surface pressure gradient extends into the southern Great Lakes and mid-Mississippi Valley regions, producing gusty north-northeast winds and strong low-level cold advection across the region. While snow associated with the low pressure system has moved out of the forecast area, the cold low-level air traversing Lake Michigan was resulting in increasingly organized lake effect snow showers into parts of northeast IL and far northwest IN early this evening. High-res model guidance continues to be in very good agreement in depicting increasing low-level convergent focus developing along the west shore of the lake later this evening, with a transition from current loosely organized multi-band snow showers into a stronger largely single band LES plume later tonight. While inversion heights remain generally in the 6500-7500 ft AGL range tonight into Sunday, all other parameters favor the potential for strong LES with periods of heavy snowfall rates within the single-band plume. Lake surface to 850 mb delta T`s around 20C, large positive area/CAPE below the inversion, and cloud layer temps within the favored -12C to -18C dendritic growth zone all support strong convective snow elements. 4km NAM/NMM/HRRR are all generally similar in depiction of heavier snow developing into far northeast IL after 9-10 pm this evening, with the best convergent axis slowly shifting from Lake Co. IL southeast across Cook Co. IL overnight, and eventually into northwest IN by early Sunday morning. Lighter snow showers or flurries will likely persist farther inland, though the greatest potential for accumulations of substance appear likely to be limited to the lake-adjacent counties of Lake (IL), Cook, Lake (IN) and Porter. This is exactly as indicated in forecast from previous shift, and see no need for any changes to the details or headlines at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Thats where we are at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 RGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE National Weather Service Chicago IL 823 PM CST Sat Jan 19 2019 ...Heavy Lake Effect Snow Showers Developing Tonight... ILZ014-201030- /O.CON.KLOT.WW.Y.0004.000000T0000Z-190120T1500Z/ Cook- Including the city of Chicago 823 PM CST Sat Jan 19 2019 ...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 9 AM CST SUNDAY... * WHAT...Lake effect snow, heavy at times. Total snow accumulations of 2 to 5 inches expected. Winds gusting as high as 35 mph, with blowing and drifting snow near the lake. * WHERE...Cook County. * WHEN...From 8 PM this evening to 9 AM CST Sunday. * ADDITIONAL DETAILS...Plan on slippery road conditions and temporary significantly reduce visibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carvers Gap Posted January 20, 2019 Author Share Posted January 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, jaxjagman said: RGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE National Weather Service Chicago IL 823 PM CST Sat Jan 19 2019 ...Heavy Lake Effect Snow Showers Developing Tonight... ILZ014-201030- /O.CON.KLOT.WW.Y.0004.000000T0000Z-190120T1500Z/ Cook- Including the city of Chicago 823 PM CST Sat Jan 19 2019 ...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 9 AM CST SUNDAY... * WHAT...Lake effect snow, heavy at times. Total snow accumulations of 2 to 5 inches expected. Winds gusting as high as 35 mph, with blowing and drifting snow near the lake. * WHERE...Cook County. * WHEN...From 8 PM this evening to 9 AM CST Sunday. * ADDITIONAL DETAILS...Plan on slippery road conditions and temporary significantly reduce visibility. Awesome, man. Not everyday folks from Tennessee get to experience Lake effect snow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Carvers Gap said: Awesome, man. Not everyday folks from Tennessee get to experience Lake effect snow! I know man.This is the 3rd year we've came here.Last year we just saw some blowing flakes,year before we walked around the zoo without jackets,but i will admit Chicago has a cool zoo with winter animals plus this zoo is free which it makes it even more awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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