#NoPoles Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 hour ago, alex said: It’s a great gig (and by the way, we are always looking for good people to help). Keep in mind, I only own a few properties, the others we just manage for other owners and take a cut (you need to be a licensed real estate agent to do that). The work is 24-7 and stressful at times but you also have great flexibility- is, can ski a few hours every day in the middle of the week. Well, im about to be debt free and im (k)not tied down by marriage or kids, I do have two guinea pigs but they are 2lbs each...but that idea sounds intriguing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#NoPoles Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 hour ago, powderfreak said: It is about as extreme a gradient as you'll see, it seems. It's not just the mountains, it's even the low lands of NNE when BTV and CAR are both nearing their annual averages at the end of January. CAR is a bit more above normal than BTV, but even the Banana Valley of Vermont has seen 70" so far. It won't take much for BTV to put up another 100"+ season which seem to happen more frequently since 2000. I always think back to what Will/ORH says, when SNE has a big winter it's usually still normal or above normal in NNE....and same when NNE has a huge winter, it's usually above normal in SNE too, just not to that extent. It's much more rare for one area of New England to just be that far separated from the rest of the region. The opposite type winter would be one where Cape Cod just rakes deform bands and mid-level magic all winter while it's like pulling teeth to get snow anywhere else. Like an entire winter of severe suppression depression. 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Calling it official 01/01 42.0 23.1 0.47 33 T 2 01/02 27.4 16.2 0.00 13 0.0 1 01/03 34.0 21.6 0.10 14 1.8 3 01/04 40.4 27.9 0.00 13 0.0 2 01/05 35.9 25.9 0.04 17 T 2 01/06 39.2 16.8 T 32 T 2 01/07 20.5 9.7 0.00 28 0.0 2 01/08 30.7 18.0 0.31 9 1.0 3 01/09 33.4 29.0 0.52 21 3.3 6 01/10 29.8 15.9 T 27 T 6 01/11 17.2 4.2 0.00 25 0.0 5 01/12 15.8 2.8 0.00 19 0.0 5 01/13 20.5 1.3 0.00 8 0.0 5 01/14 26.6 1.1 0.00 7 0.0 5 01/15 28.8 13.2 0.00 18 0.0 5 01/16 35.0 14.8 T 23 T 5 01/17 18.2 2.0 0.00 13 0.0 5 01/18 27.7 13.3 T 10 0.2 5 01/19 25.5 13.1 0.18 14 3.3 8 01/20 19.4 -1.7 0.93 29 5.7 13 01/21 1.4 -4.8 0.01 27 0.1 13 01/22 17.9 -4.7 0.00 28 0.0 12 01/23 33.5 10.5 0.05 7 0.0 12 01/24 52.0 32.1 1.58 20 0.0 11 01/25 33.7 17.9 T 19 T 7 01/26 24.7 12.2 0.00 10 0.0 7 01/27 36.3 5.6 T 15 T 7 01/28 28.6 5.7 0.00 17 0.0 7 01/29 15.8 4.4 0.31 11 4.0 11 01/30 24.7 0.3 0.17 27 1.9 13 01/31 11.7 -8.9 0.00 17 0.0 12 4.67 21.3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Spin Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 hour ago, powderfreak said: Today's 98" Mansfield Stake depth is the highest ever recorded at the end of January. The old record for Jan 31st was 90" in 1969. Forgive us for being excited about breaking 65 year snow records . Daily Hydrometeorological Data National Weather Service Burlington VT 514 PM EST Thu Jan 31 2019 Station Precip Temperature Present Snow 24 Hrs Max Min Cur Weather New Total SWE ...Vermont... Mount Mansfield 7 -16 -4 98 You know it’s interesting, I wonder if the mountains are doing better than the mountain valleys this season, relatively speaking? We’re well ahead of average on snowfall here at our site, but it’s certainly not unprecedented – we’ve generally been running right along with good snowfall seasons such as 2007-2008 and 2008-2009. Here’s how snowfall through January 31st (conveniently, right around the midpoint of the season) stacks up for the three seasons: 2007-2008: 113.6” 2008-2009: 129.0” 2018-2019: 128.6” I know it looks like 2007-2008 might be lagging at this point, but in a few days it’s going to jump right up to 140”, and it’s going to keep its foot on the gas right past 200”, so it’s definitely a top contender in snowfall seasons. Maybe we’ve just done better at building and retaining the snowpack this season relative to those seasons? It’s not as if we haven’t had any mixed/warm systems this season, but clearly something is helping the snowpack build faster. The snowpack here is currently higher than it was at this point in either of those seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backedgeapproaching Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Ginx snewx said: Hey now, I am the biggest rooter for big snows for everyone My bad Ginx...your certainly not all SNE all the time, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 11 minutes ago, J.Spin said: You know it’s interesting, I wonder if the mountains are doing better than the mountain valleys this season, relatively speaking? We’re well ahead of average on snowfall here at our site, but it’s certainly not unprecedented – we’ve generally been running right along with good snowfall seasons such as 2007-2008 and 2008-2009. Here’s how snowfall through January 31st (conveniently, right around the midpoint of the season) stacks up for the three seasons: 2007-2008: 113.6” 2008-2009: 129.0” 2018-2019: 128.6” I know it looks like 2007-2008 might be lagging at this point, but in a few days it’s going to jump right up to 140”, and it’s going to keep its foot on the gas right past 200”, so it’s definitely a top contender in snowfall seasons. Maybe we’ve just done better at building and retaining the snowpack this season relative to those seasons? It’s not as if we haven’t had any mixed/warm systems this season, but clearly something is helping the snowpack build faster. The snowpack here is currently higher than it was at this point in either of those seasons. I have thought this season's snowpack has been on the higher end even in the valleys since November. Maybe the snows have had more QPF in them? Even the upslope events this season (the 12+ events) for the mountains have come with considerable QPF. The snowpack to me though has been almost more impressive than the actual snowfall compared to our normal climate. It's been consistently deep winter. How are your snow Depth days comparing to those other winters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 3 hours ago, powderfreak said: Jay Peak 263" Smuggs 270" Stowe 208" Bolton 200" Mad River Glen 161" Sugarbush 149" Honestly the Stowe total is likely a little under reported due to early season snow reporting difficulties...it could be as much as 230-240" IMO. The Smuggs number really stands out to me. I've never seen them beat Jay Peak and they are literally 1-2 miles from Stowe. With that said, the Stowe number is low and the Mansfield Stake being 98" would support more than 208". Often getting the Stake to 100" in my experience is closer to 250" snowfall than 200". Some years it takes 300"+ to get to 100" depth. The ratio of depth to snowfall seems off. Vail Resorts tried to go with a different snow reporting method but has since gone back to the old way, with sheltered High Road measurements. The early season snow was on the low side. Either way, it's a lot of snow. Wasn’t there at least one storm that dumped significantly more snow on the west slopes because of blocked flow? I seem to remember something to that effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 30 minutes ago, mreaves said: Wasn’t there at least one storm that dumped significantly more snow on the west slopes because of blocked flow? I seem to remember something to that effect. Yeah there have been a few, on the other side there have been a decent amount of blocked SE flow events that have done much better on the east side. In the past it usually all evens out. And honestly, it's more for the towns on either side. The upper elevations of the Spine do about the same in both wind directions because there isn't enough time for any downsloping to take hold. Sort of like how JSpin does great in both wind directions, but move 3-5 miles east/west of him that wind direction can matter. Even the event the other day was an example of blocked SE flow... 3-5" west slopes and 6-10 east of the crest from Stowe/Waterbury/Waitsfield zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Spin Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 hour ago, powderfreak said: I have thought this season's snowpack has been on the higher end even in the valleys since November. Maybe the snows have had more QPF in them? Even the upslope events this season (the 12+ events) for the mountains have come with considerable QPF. The snowpack to me though has been almost more impressive than the actual snowfall compared to our normal climate. It's been consistently deep winter. How are your snow depth days comparing to those other winters? SDD Through January 31st by season: 2007-2008: 863.0 2008-2009: 814.0 2018-2019: 1035.0 This season is ahead of those in terms of SDD, so certainly on the high end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Spin Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 January totals: 66.5” Snow/6.22” L.E. This January was notable at our site in that the last time we had one with above average snowfall was eight seasons ago (January 2011 with 55.5”). My data set only covers about a dozen years, but January is still the snowiest month at the climate sites around here. So, unless the monthly distribution in the mountains here varies dramatically from those sites, that stretch was presumably not the norm. As a skier, this January was much closer to how you’d write it up though – lots of moisture, plenty of fresh snow, and none of that sitting under dry, frigid arctic air for a week at a time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 hour ago, J.Spin said: January totals: 66.5” Snow/6.22” L.E. This January was notable at our site in that the last time we had one with above average snowfall was eight seasons ago (January 2011 with 55.5”). My data set only covers about a dozen years, but January is still the snowiest month at the climate sites around here. So, unless the monthly distribution in the mountains here varies dramatically from those sites, that stretch was presumably not the norm. As a skier, this January was much closer to how you’d write it up though – lots of moisture, plenty of fresh snow, and none of that sitting under dry, frigid arctic air for a week at a time. the thaws and cutters werent really that damaging to the snowpack. Obviously unwelcome but there werent any that wiped things out significantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 12 hours ago, J.Spin said: SDD Through January 31st by season: 2007-2008: 863.0 2008-2009: 814.0 2018-2019: 1035.0 This season is ahead of those in terms of SDD, so certainly on the high end. Pack's been good here, too, certainly helped by Novie's record snows. Top 3: 2007-08: 1,124 2018-19: 1,098 Current 28" is tied with 2009 for highest on 1/31. 2016-17: 820 Average thru 1/31: 545 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#NoPoles Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Dang, the Stowe snow stake hovering so close to 100inches, close but no cigar...yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 20 hours ago, Ginx snewx said: Caribou’s snowiest Jan ever. Boston’s 4th lowest, insane gradient Their 59.8" missed by 0.1" from tying Dec. 1972 for the most in any month. Posted in the banter thread how this, in my mind at least, bears resemblance to 2007-08, only with things moved farther north, such that I've had lots of mixed precip events even while getting AN snowfall, while 11 years ago had very few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 What a winter for NNE. Just epic. Anyone want to trade places with me? How is it to live in northern Maine ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 18 hours ago, J.Spin said: SDD Through January 31st by season: 2007-2008: 863.0 2008-2009: 814.0 2018-2019: 1035.0 This season is ahead of those in terms of SDD, so certainly on the high end. Yeah thanks. That's about what I thought. Ancedotally I was thinking best snowpack winter to date (just longevity and decent depth) since moving to Stowe. Unrelenting since the first decent snow in November and then having 20+ on ground for the second half of January. Winter feels like it's been going on forever since it really started at the end of October with ridiculous cold departures. Can't believe we still have Feb/Mar/Apr left in the snow season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisStraight Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Heading up north in two weeks. Happy too see a good pack, maybe I can time it right for a good storm. Last time I went up it it minus 30. Great times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borderwx Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Had the same thoughts PF. Breaking our XC ski trails in yesterday and it felt similar to rifle and muzzy seasons with consistent knee deep and over knee snow conditions. At least now the snow pack has solidified. Pretty heavy winds today at Jay. Never moved over 5F. Kids here grow up skiing with respect for the weather, everyone looking out for exposed skin on each other and understanding how to keep it moving. Deep blue skies and slow snow. Looking forward to touring in the teens and 20's this weekend:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmanmitch Posted February 1, 2019 Author Share Posted February 1, 2019 At 90.3" so far for the season, 40.5" in Novie, 11.3" in December, and 38.5" in January. Seasonal total is probably a bit above average to date, but probably not too much. I have no idea what this location averages, and it'll take time to establish an average. My guess is 120-130", but it could be higher, possibly 150". The 38.5" for January is probably about average for the month. January was a meh month here, nothing too exciting, but not terrible by any means either. I could've done without the rainy cutters though. All that said, I'm likely ahead of where I was at this point last winter and we finished with over 200" thanks to getting 90" in the first two weeks of last March. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Absolutely gorgeous day to be out today. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whineminster Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Too bad i couldn't ski mobile this weekend, looks even better than last weekend. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Snow88 said: What a winter for NNE. Just epic. Anyone want to trade places with me? How is it to live in northern Maine ? Coming from NYC? You would go crazy with boredom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 2 hours ago, mreaves said: Absolutely gorgeous day to be out today. Now if that isn't a classic Vermont scene then I don't know what its. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 20 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Now if that isn't a classic Vermont scene then I don't know what its. This was taken in East Montpelier looking northeast. Central Vermont is really good for long distance views like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Just now, mreaves said: This was taken in East Montpelier looking east. Central Vermont is really good for long distance views like this. That's one area of VT I haven't spent a lot of time driving around. East/Central areas. I love the views from I-89 south of Montpelier looking at the Orange Heights. But spots like Williamstown up through your area, classic VT mix of open fields and bigger mountains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 -7 here in pikes falls gorge SVT. About 3’ pack of which about 6” is glacier from November. I really should core this stuff. Gotta be 6” in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borderwx Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Started snowing around 12:30, be curious if it stays 1-3”, we should have 3” in another couple hours at this rate winds really moved the snow around yesterday, lots of variable snow surfaces out there 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#NoPoles Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Hey, it's snowing again in NNE...sne is getting ready to head to the nearest bridge and jump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 1 hour ago, borderwx said: Started snowing around 12:30, be curious if it stays 1-3”, we should have 3” in another couple hours at this rate winds really moved the snow around yesterday, lots of variable snow surfaces out there That’s the shed where awful things keep happening to the SNE weenies. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 22 minutes ago, #NoPoles said: Hey, it's snowing again in NNE...sne is getting ready to head to the nearest bridge and jump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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