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2018/19 Winter Banter and General Discussion - We winter of YORE


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32 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

Doing a snow survey today at 1,500ft near the Stowe base area...the location is at the RT 108 winter closure gate on the southeast side of Smugglers Notch.  The snowpack is such that you just walk over the gate without even knowing it's there.

Most of the 1,500ft depths average 44-48" from what I saw.  The average was 46"...and it is pure glacier about a foot down.  Like it was very difficult to get the Adirondack Snow Sampler into this snowpack even with it's metal teeth.

With a 46" depth, there was an average of 15.0" of water in the snowpack, though some readings were as high as 16.5".

So well over a foot of water is sitting in the snowpack at the base elevations of the ski areas up this way...

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The historic "Barnes Camp" location that was renovated a few years back near where the snow plot is...you go up stairs to get into this place yet the snow is still almost half-way up the first story.

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Is there any records for the 1500’ area? Just curious how good the pack is relative to other years.

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38 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

Is there any records for the 1500’ area? Just curious how good the pack is relative to other years.

Nope, just my personal observations over the past 10 years.  It's a high snow depth day type of winter...lots of moisture rich systems with minimal melting and even if the temp briefly spiked above freezing, this east side bench holds cold.  Flat area at 1500ft, east side of the terrain gap that is Smugglers Notch, the base of Stowe is a surprisingly easy access weenie location at the bottom of a 4000ft slope.

But it's only 10 years of observations, 2011 snow depth at 1,500ft was pretty good as a winter on the whole but didn't have the QPF of this winter locked up in it.

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40 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

Don't forget that's groomed

That's insane.  I've been following the Sierra avalanche discussions and it's been pretty incredible the amount of snow/water that has been plastered into the Lake Tahoe to Mammoth Lakes zone in California.

Squaw Valley and Mammoth now open through July 4th (I think Squaw is July 9th?)... crazy stuff.

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10 hours ago, Ginx snewx said:

Tough to forecast here this year when my ratio so far this winter is this 

37.2 in. Snow 5.43 in w/e 6.8 ratio ouch

That study has plenty of problems with it (owing mostly to how people measure snow) but I think the general trends are correct. 6:1 is way more common around these parts than 16:1. 

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11 hours ago, powderfreak said:

That's insane.  I've been following the Sierra avalanche discussions and it's been pretty incredible the amount of snow/water that has been plastered into the Lake Tahoe to Mammoth Lakes zone in California.

Squaw Valley and Mammoth now open through July 4th (I think Squaw is July 9th?)... crazy stuff.

I rode Mammoth once on July 3 when it was 88 deg sharing the slopes with day hikers and mountain bikers.....it was wild....

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Impressive for March

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WEATHER ROUNDUP FOR MAINE AND NEW HAMPSHIRE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GRAY ME
500 AM EST THU MAR 07 2019

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CITY           SKY/WX    TMP DP  RH WIND       PRES   REMARKS
PORTLAND       FAIR       5  -2  72 W5        30.15S
SANFORD        FAIR      -6 -10  83 CALM      30.15S
BAR HARBOR     FAIR       6  -3  66 W6        30.10R
WISCASSET      FAIR      -2  -7  79 CALM      30.15R
ROCKLAND       FAIR       0  -7  72 W5        30.13R
FRYEBURG       FAIR      -6 -12  75 CALM      30.11R
LEWISTONAUBURN FAIR     -11 -15  82 CALM      30.12R
AUGUSTA        FAIR       6  -7  54 SW5       30.11R
WATERVILLE     FAIR       2  -7  66 W6        30.07R
BANGOR         FAIR       2  -7  66 W5        30.08R
GREENVILLE       N/A     -1 -20  40 W5        29.90R
MILLINOCKET    FAIR      -4  -9  79 CALM      30.03R
HOULTON        FAIR     -21 -25  81 CALM      29.97R
PRESQUE ISLE   FAIR      -7 -12  79 W6        29.96R
FRENCHVILLE    FAIR      -3 -13  62 W10       29.88R WCI -20
CARIBOU        FAIR      -8 -16  67 W3        29.92R
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