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2018/19 Winter Banter and General Discussion - We winter of YORE


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Bruschi:

Bruschi, who spent the entirety of his 13-year NFL career with the Patriots, said he’s “holding on” to Kraft’s denial while he waits for new information to emerge. He called Friday “a tough day,” citing his personal relationship with Kraft as well as Kraft’s charitable work within the community.

“It’s a tough, confusing time right now for myself [and] for a lot of fans of the New England Patriots that something like this would happen to the leader of an organization that everyone in this region I guess looked to [for] the way things should be done in the right way,” Bruschi said. “It’s a tough day.”

“It’s some tough conversations that parents will have to have because the New England Patriots are in the fabric of all of the families here in this region.”

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TMZ reporting that the video of all the guys shows ejaculation and cleanup.

If the whole thing is true --- and I'm still clinging to the IF because we've seen other fake news get blown up this week --- what an idiot.

I think it's fair for Brady Belichik etc to feel betrayed. You know the world is hoping to take your team down, so why do something so foolish.

A billionaire looking for a $79 trashy fix that he could easily get more discreetly. He overpaid to build the stadium, tons of philanthropy... he's not cheap. Either he really has dementia or it's some weird fetish.

And yeah... if this were the owner of just about any other NFL team, nobody would care.

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Pure insanity today with this. As a diehard Jets fan, I am quietly enjoying the fact that there is more controversy around the Patriots for this. Say goodbye to Kraft being at Gillette to raise banner 6.

On the other side of this, the human trafficking involvement is disturbing and a terrible thing for him to be involved in.

1 hour ago, wxsniss said:

TMZ reporting that the video of all the guys shows ejaculation and cleanup.

If the whole thing is true --- and I'm still clinging to the IF because we've seen other fake news get blown up this week --- what an idiot.

I think it's fair for Brady Belichik etc to feel betrayed. You know the world is hoping to take your team down, so why do something so foolish.

A billionaire looking for a $79 trashy fix that he could easily get more discreetly. He overpaid to build the stadium, tons of philanthropy... he's not cheap. Either he really has dementia or it's some weird fetish.

And yeah... if this were the owner of just about any other NFL team, nobody would care.

Apparently this place where the dirty deeds were being was a complete dump and borderline inhabitable. It wasn't even slightly clean. Very strange that he would get himself caught up in it, not just one but twice!

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Anybody know what town MPM moved to and what his elevation is? I'm looking to move to one of the more weenie spots of Central Mass. Need to get out of this cramped lifestyle and out to the woods with more room.

I would message him myself and ask but apparently I am allowed 0 messages to be sent per day. BTW can someone fix that please or tell me what warrants me to not be allowed to send a message?

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There's a stench oh hypocrisy about how this whole story broke.

Apparently ... his is not the most famous name on the list of those who were busted. 

So why is it his name, in a society driven by celebrity rage ... the first one that breaks out into mainstream coverage?

sounds fishy. He may have involved in the shenanigans of a rub and tug that day ... he may not have.  But this looks like a public sacking either way. 

 

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18 minutes ago, BombsAway1288 said:

Pure insanity today with this. As a diehard Jets fan, I am quietly enjoying the fact that there is more controversy around the Patriots for this. Say goodbye to Kraft being at Gillette to raise banner 6.

On the other side of this, the human trafficking involvement is disturbing and a terrible thing for him to be involved in.

Apparently this place where the dirty deeds were being was a complete dump and borderline inhabitable. It wasn't even slightly clean. Very strange that he would get himself caught up in it, not just one but twice!

There is a full shit storm coming. Flags are flying. 

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Jesus Christ. The trafficking shit's alleged.  Not proven. You NFL motivated posters need to can it. 

None of this has anything to do with football or the NFL ... announcing your allegiance to your team in the same post/context as this story demonstrates your using this information in lieu of adjudicating for the purposes of law/morality. 

Which is in fact also how this story had broken. inappropriately ... 

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8 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

Jesus Christ. The trafficking shit's alleged.  Not proven. You NFL motivated posters need to can it. 

None of this has anything to do with football or the NFL ... announcing your allegiance to your team in the same post/context as this story demonstrates your using this information inproperly. 

Which is in fact also his how story had broken. innappropriately. 

I do agree that it's puzzling why they're singling him out if there is a more prominent on these other lists being that he is so loved and looked at as a great, generous man but the trafficking thing is not alleged. I mean, everything involving this is technically alleged until it plays out in the court of law but there were multiple agency's involved in this including the FBI and DHS who would be investigating the importing of these women via work visas that someone at CBP would of approved upon arrival into the US so I don;t think that there is any doubt that this is trafficking of some kind.

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I was in Barkhamstead the last two weeks of Oct through early Dec for a great fall and early winter and thought I might miss some big nor’easter’s and snow when I returned to Murrells Inlet SC before Christmas, I didn’t miss much although winter hasn’t been totally boring in Southern New England unless one wants a 2 foot snow pack from mid Dec until Saint Patrick’s day, boring is mid 40°s and scattered showers for weeks on end, any ideas about what mid March might be like when I get back? Maybe a late winter blizzard?

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2 hours ago, Typhoon Tip said:

There's a stench oh hypocrisy about how this whole story broke.

Apparently ... his is not the most famous name on the list of those who were busted. 

So why is it his name, in a society driven by celebrity rage ... the first one that breaks out into mainstream coverage?

sounds fishy. He may have involved in the shenanigans of a rub and tug that day ... he may not have.  But this looks like a public sacking either way. 

 

Agree with all of this.

The breaking headlines today grossly conflated "human sex trafficking" with "solicited a prostitute". 

In the first hour, I (and many others, and this was discussed on radio) initially thought Kraft was overseeing a human sex trafficking ring. Given the nationwide venom for this organization, I would argue the media presentation was intentionally sensationalized / distorted.

From all that has been presented, the guy got a massage with a happy ending. Something portrayed comedically on TV and probably more common than acknowledged. To conflate that with human sex trafficking is nothing but targeted character assassination.

I'm not a lawyer, but the delineation between a massage with a happy ending vs. soliciting a prostitute vs. escort service seems blurry. The wording of his statement is interesting: “We categorically deny that Mr. Kraft engaged in any illegal activity." Unfortunately, he may exonerate himself from having broken any laws, but the fall from grace in the public eye may be permanent, and in that the media will have succeeded. I'd love for him to completely refute any activity, but police seem pretty confident in their undercover video.

Kraft has a lifelong record of philanthropy. He grew up in my neighborhood. I've met him in person and he is shockingly down-to-earth, good natured, and generous. I think any activity in that massage parlor was unnecessary and foolish for a person of his public profile and wealth, and it's upsetting that he gave haters this giant gift.

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6 hours ago, BombsAway1288 said:

Pure insanity today with this. As a diehard Jets fan, I am quietly enjoying the fact that there is more controversy around the Patriots for this. Say goodbye to Kraft being at Gillette to raise banner 6.

On the other side of this, the human trafficking involvement is disturbing and a terrible thing for him to be involved in.

Apparently this place where the dirty deeds were being was a complete dump and borderline inhabitable. It wasn't even slightly clean. Very strange that he would get himself caught up in it, not just one but twice!

It's way more common than most people think.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article222094725.html

And the Super Bowl is actually the number 1 location and day/night where the most sex trafficking happens.

 

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Re kraft, think he goes to this place for anonymity , go to a high end service and they know who you are and try to extract all kinds of money from you. 

 

Lot of pro pro golfers from Jupiter, tiger is a good place to start re others.

 

If last years goings on didn’t bother the team this isn’t even a road bump, but fully expect some to yell for taking a 1st riundee away again

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