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2018/19 Winter Banter and General Discussion - We winter of YORE


Baroclinic Zone
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23 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

My thing isn't exactly what Kevin's saying ...  

What I meant by that is, " I don't get strung out over missing opportunities" period. Like I said, I appreciate it when it snows... I just don't miss or feel some how deprived if things don't work out, or the models won't entertain us.. That's stuff actually tries my patience around here but that's an aside -

I can be totally blown away by an incredible 65 F day on February 4 ... and a week later, equally mesmerized by deep cryo bomb stalled on ISP ...  

I just like interesting things to happen period.  

I think most on here fall into that category.  

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7 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

Lol at 1990-1991 winter. About as bad as it gets. Horrific. 

We did have a snow to ice event on Valentines Day I remember. We had no school that day. 

Seasons of yore at CON

1979-1980	0.0	0.0	0.0	1.3	T	2.1	3.1	11.9	8.6	T	0.0	0.0	27.0
1980-1981	0.0	0.0	0.0	T	9.4	9.8	9.2	20.9	5.4	T	0.0	0.0	54.7
1981-1982	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	T	33.0	26.2	9.0	6.5	15.3	0.0	0.0	90.0
1982-1983	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	1.3	3.6	9.0	20.8	4.0	T	T	0.0	38.7
1983-1984	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	T	17.5	20.4	12.7	25.0	T	T	0.0	75.6
1984-1985	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	T	16.5	11.6	11.0	12.4	1.0	0.0	0.0	52.5
1985-1986	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	8.3	11.2	15.1	11.5	4.4	T	T	0.0	50.5
1986-1987	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	14.4	7.7	45.4	0.6	7.0	9.4	0.0	0.0	84.5
1987-1988	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	5.8	12.0	19.3	23.7	4.6	0.1	0.0	0.0	65.5
1988-1989	0.0	0.0	0.0	T	0.5	5.0	5.6	7.0	10.2	0.8	T	0.0	29.1
1989-1990	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	4.7	12.0	23.1	22.0	1.3	T	0.0	0.0	63.1
1990-1991	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.6	8.8	11.2	6.8	6.0	0.2	0.0	0.0	33.6
1991-1992	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	1.3	13.5	3.8	5.3	6.8	4.5	0.0	0.0	35.2

 

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1 hour ago, ORH_wxman said:

Although I still have a special place in hell for that 1988-1989 winter. Feb 24-25, 1989 finally broke me. 

What were you, like 10 years old? I remember nothing about the weather from a year ago, let alone 30 years!  I know I was a freshman in HS in 1989 and I go from there.  Don’t recall if it was hot, cold, rainy, snowy. 

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9 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said:

What were you, like 10 years old? I remember nothing about the weather from a year ago, let alone 30 years!  I know I was a freshman in HS in 1989 and I go from there.  Don’t recall if it was hot, cold, rainy, snowy. 

Will remembers stuff that happened before he was born, amazing really.

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23 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said:

What were you, like 10 years old? I remember nothing about the weather from a year ago, let alone 30 years!  I know I was a freshman in HS in 1989 and I go from there.  Don’t recall if it was hot, cold, rainy, snowy. 

I was 7 years old....huge snow weenie in the 2nd grade. That storm was emotionally crushing for me at that age.

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2 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

We need more details... set the table with what was going on at the time...  Mild winter and snowless?  Bad luck and then some?

This was the first winter I had moved back to MA after we had moved to Texas in summer of '83, so I was too young to remember those other winters before moving. We did visit at times in winter so I knew they got snow, but that wasn't the same as when you actually live there and experience it that way.

1988-1989 winter was not THAT mild overall, but it was a bit polarized for temps....December was -2, January was +4 and February was -1....but the snow, it was even worse than this winter except without NNE cashing in. I admittedly don't know what happened in CAR that far north, but for everyone else it was a disaster including up to BTV. Up through late February, the biggest snow event I think was around 3 inches. We were seriously threatening futility in ORH as I think to that point we had only about 12" on the season. I was living in Holden, MA at the time near the Paxton line at about 1,000 feet elevation. Holden borders ORH to the northwest. 

Finally around February 22-23, the talk starts up about a possible big storm. It turns into a fever pitch by the night of Feb 23rd. This was the week of February vacation so we were off school anyway so I got to stay up later than usual and it added to the joy of anticipating a storm. By the night of Thursday Feb 23rd, the meteorologists were going from anywhere between 1-2 feet to maybe as low as 8-14 inches....but regardless, they were all talking big with the highest amounts favored southeast. The storm was to start the next day on the 24th around midday or so. I got to stay up for the 11pm newscast on Feb 23rd because it wasn't a school night and I was excited for the storm, so I was granted permission to watch....and that was the first red flag. Harvey Leonard came on and said the latest computer models were shifting a bit southeast and it looked like the Cape would get the jackpot, but it was still to be a major storm of at least 6-12 even back to central areas. I still wasn't too worried because I just wanted a big storm whether it was 8" or 15"....they both would have seemed massive compared to the trash we had gotten that winter. After Harvey was off, I quickly turned to channel 5 and caught the end of Dick Albert's forecast which said the same thing...a bit further southeast.

I woke up the next morning and noticed it was cloudy, but I could see the disk of the sun through the overcast....which didn't seem "good" even to a 7 year old weenie. I had missed the morning newscasts so I had to wait until the noontime broadcast to see anything. When they came on at noon, they went live to the Cape and they already had several inches and it was snowing there. I was watching channel 4, and Bruce Schwoegler came on and said that the snow was "Delayed" for those northwest of the Cape and maybe adjacent SE MA and that amounts may be have to be lowered but that it would STILL be a significant storm of 6"+....that was the first time I started to get a pit in my stomach. He said it would be snowing by late afternoon into early evening though. Then that was it for hours...no more updates. Back in those days there was no weather except local news unless you had cable and got the weather channel which we didn't. So it was looking out the window for first flakes all afternoon until the 5pm newscasts. The snow didn't start...hour after hour after hour it was just overcast. At least the disk of the sun finally went away. But slate grey overcast with not a flake. Finally 5pm comes along and the newscasts come on and Harvey is back on for channel 7 and says the snowfall will need to be cut down to about 5-8 inches. I was starting to get bummed but still thought 5-8 sounded great. It was now snowing in most of SE MA and getting into BOS he said, so I was expecting snow to be imminent at home.

We eat dinner and I look outside....nothing. We have dessert and I look outside....nothing. Another hour later....nothing. Another hour later....nothing. Finally, at about 9pm, I look and see pathetic tiny flakes starting to fall in the spotlight outside. It finally picked up pretty fast and it was snowing solidly moderate within maybe 30-45 min. I go to bed before the 11pm newscasts this time and felt pretty good about still salvaging the storm. It was snowing hard and we already had maybe 1-1.5 inches at 1030pm or so. So I figured we could rack up 6+ still.

I wake up around 3-4am....I peek out the window and in the outside light I could see the snow had lightened considerably from when I went to bed and it didn't look like that much had fallen...maybe 2-3 inches. Still, I figured there was plenty of time to get more as the storm was supposed to go through late morning at least. I wake up again for good around 7am and look outside and maybe another inch had fallen....we had less than 4 inches. It was snowing steadily but it wasn't moderate....prob like 3/4-1 mile vis or something. Then it abruptly started lightening up about an hour later and the sun was shining through the flakes....like a sun shower in summer except this was winter. This lasted literally for another hour or two. It was sun/flakes for a long time....I knew the storm was over hours early. We finished with maybe 4 inches...and that might be generous. Prob closer to 3.5.

 

Parts of the Cape got 20" and ACY got 18" I think....of course, I saw the live shots of the Cape buried and it set off this rage inside me...like the snowstorm was stolen from me by some unseen entity. It couldn't be God since God was supposed to be good I rationalized. I couldn't understand it. But it scarred me for life....even though I am a lot less emotional about it now, that bust never truly left me. At that young age, it imprints in your memory...burned into you.

 

That winter limped with two late events to avoid futility with a total of 28.1" for the season....5th lowest all time at ORH (4th lowest at the time, until 1994-1995 came along). That was my welcome back to MA present for a 2nd grade snow weenie.

 

 

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