Malacka11 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 The system around the seventh, even though it's a way out still, is looking interesting to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frog Town Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 The system around the 7th/8th of January is well adverstised by the non-US models, but not so much by the GFS and others. The other thing that this system has going for it, is the period of transition to a -AO and +PNA. This is typically a good time for our sub forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertSul Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 3 hours ago, Frog Town said: The system around the 7th/8th of January is well adverstised by the non-US models, but not so much by the GFS and others. The other thing that this system has going for it, is the period of transition to a -AO and +PNA. This is typically a good time for our sub forum. I hope so! I haven't seen anything over an inch so far this year, and even then it's melted by mid-afternoon. Starting to feel like Missouri in these parts (no offense to that part of the sub-forum). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Looks like the next system of note comes around the 7th. Looks like best shot of snow will be in WI to MI. South of that...hope something shows up in the last half of Jan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachLB Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 https://www.axios.com/polar-vortex-is-about-to-split-up-5c2e7460-67fb-49da-b73a-079ffbe205b9.html?fbclid=IwAR2iCw4vyZzvoMBz6j5J8MJDF_3VZgZBtfkexpQHQVCat3O50VdUOkCTy6Y Interesting read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Apparently JB of Weatherbell is on the brink of throwing in the towel for cold this winter. He sounded more despondent on his video than I have ever heard him over the past 18 years. I think he knows that his forecast has busted. To be fair, a lot of weather outlets are busting this year. The National Weather Service may score the coup as they called for a very warm winter while almost every other outlet was calling for cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 I gotta see this JB video. Sounds like a corker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 26 minutes ago, Hoosier said: I gotta see this JB video. Sounds like a corker. I've had WB for several years now and have never watched any of the vids until today. It was pretty funny. Kinda reminded me of Clark Griswold after he found out he got the jelly of the month subscription for his xmas bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 On 1/3/2019 at 9:39 PM, cyclone77 said: I've had WB for several years now and have never watched any of the vids until today. It was pretty funny. Kinda reminded me of Clark Griswold after he found out he got the jelly of the month subscription for his xmas bonus. Oh man, now I have to watch this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 8 hours ago, cyclone77 said: I've had WB for several years now and have never watched any of the vids until today. It was pretty funny. Kinda reminded me of Clark Griswold after he found out he got the jelly of the month subscription for his xmas bonus. Perfect description....that is spot on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCNYILWX Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 What's funny is that after JB did that video, finally positive signs in the long range on the ensembles, with 2 consecutive EPS runs showing significant improvements later in the run and a good run of the weeklies week 2-3 and onward (despite initializing with a terrible EPS run). I still think it'll be a case of delayed but not denied this winter w.r.t. persistent below to well below normal cold. Can only hope that if/when the pattern does flip we get some good spread the wealth snow. https://mobile.twitter.com/antmasiello/status/1081170116576972800Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherzen Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 11 hours ago, cyclone77 said: I've had WB for several years now and have never watched any of the vids until today. It was pretty funny. Kinda reminded me of Clark Griswold after he found out he got the jelly of the month subscription for his xmas bonus. Now it's up to cousin Eddie to save the day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted January 5, 2019 Author Share Posted January 5, 2019 Finally got some eye candy from the 0z GGEM. Highly unlikely to happen but nice to look at. It develops a storm off the GA coast which then rides up the coast and heads back WNW into PA. Still snowing in E MI and basically all of Ohio at the end of the run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAFF Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Best fantasy snow of the season IMBY.. I'd be pumped for a solid C-1 at this point. Yet to have any accumulating snow that didn't melt on impact on asphalt. So much equipment sitting idle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 8 hours ago, snowlover2 said: Finally got some eye candy from the 0z GGEM. Highly unlikely to happen but nice to look at. It develops a storm off the GA coast which then rides up the coast and heads back WNW into PA. Still snowing in E MI and basically all of Ohio at the end of the run. Imby....I'll take the under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 8 hours ago, snowlover2 said: Finally got some eye candy from the 0z GGEM. Highly unlikely to happen but nice to look at. It develops a storm off the GA coast which then rides up the coast and heads back WNW into PA. Still snowing in E MI and basically all of Ohio at the end of the run. I'd mourn for Indy if that happened.... I've always felt CMH and Indy have a special bond of brotherhood, forged in futility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 1" total snowfall mean over the next 15 days on the eps. #pattern/change_gonna_rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 1 hour ago, DAFF said: Best fantasy snow of the season IMBY.. I'd be pumped for a solid C-1 at this point. Yet to have any accumulating snow that didn't melt on impact on asphalt. So much equipment sitting idle. With all of those accumulating snows in November, only one (November 15th) stuck to the pavement. After the next few weeks the long range is looking much, much colder, so a period of Winter is finally looking like it's on the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pondo1000 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 19 minutes ago, buckeye said: 1" total snowfall mean over the next 15 days on the eps. #pattern/change_gonna_rock Only good news in regards to this is how many times have we been buried by them in past years only to get shutout? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 10 minutes ago, michsnowfreak said: With all of those accumulating snows in November, only one (November 15th) stuck to the pavement. After the next few weeks the long range is looking much, much colder, so a period of Winter is finally looking like it's on the way. You're in better shape than we are. According to the eps your 15 day total snow mean is approaching 2.5" Just make sure you post pics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Just now, pondo1000 said: Only good news in regards to this is how many times have we been buried by them in past years only to get shutout? True, reverse psychology is all we got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 30 minutes ago, buckeye said: You're in better shape than we are. According to the eps your 15 day total snow mean is approaching 2.5" Just make sure you post pics! Lol how do you get EPS snowfall? The next 2 weeks look continued mild, thereafter is when the cold looks to take over. It's one thing to hear of cold euro weeklies, but when I see CPC & CFS going blue in the longrange, confidence is high in a turn towards much colder weather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 16 minutes ago, michsnowfreak said: Lol how do you get EPS snowfall? The next 2 weeks look continued mild, thereafter is when the cold looks to take over. It's one thing to hear of cold euro weeklies, but when I see CPC & CFS going blue in the longrange, confidence is high in a turn towards much colder weather You should know better than taking me literally. I'm being a bit facetious here. My point is that although all signs point to colder weather, the eps mean is putrid for a 15 day stretch in January for our neck of the woods. That would indicate there are plenty of ensemble members out of the 51 that are complete shutouts, (and there are, I checked). We are in the Midwest, in January, with temps heading for a cool down and it appears we could be heading for a dry NW flow pattern, as Stebo has also indicated. Emerging from the wettest year on record for CMH only makes it even more craptastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pondo1000 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 13 minutes ago, buckeye said: You should know better than taking me literally. I'm being a bit facetious here. My point is that although all signs point to colder weather, the eps mean is putrid for a 15 day stretch in January for our neck of the woods. That would indicate there are plenty of ensemble members out of the 51 that are complete shutouts, (and there are, I checked). We are in the Midwest, in January, with temps heading for a cool down and it appears we could be heading for a dry NW flow pattern, as Stebo has also indicated. Emerging from the wettest year on record for CMH only makes it even more craptastic. Really to be expected around here. You can’t expect to continue this wet pattern if pattern is ultimately going to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 1 hour ago, buckeye said: You should know better than taking me literally. I'm being a bit facetious here. My point is that although all signs point to colder weather, the eps mean is putrid for a 15 day stretch in January for our neck of the woods. That would indicate there are plenty of ensemble members out of the 51 that are complete shutouts, (and there are, I checked). We are in the Midwest, in January, with temps heading for a cool down and it appears we could be heading for a dry NW flow pattern, as Stebo has also indicated. Emerging from the wettest year on record for CMH only makes it even more craptastic. I agree it's terrible. Such a wintry November was a treat, but the suffering of December through the 1st half of January is far worse I would take a November shut out any day over that. But the cold is after 15 days, so it does not surprise me that the 15 day looks bad. Doesn't make things better, just saying. I'm just thankful a change appears to be coming. With the way this Winter has gone, I will take my chances with Northwest flow in a heartbeat. At least there would be SOME snow. I also want to add that I have never in the history of weatherboards seen a change towards a colder than average Winter pattern without people lamenting it will be dry Northwest flow (sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't). Do you have to pay for EPS snowfall means? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 38 minutes ago, pondo1000 said: Really to be expected around here. You can’t expect to continue this wet pattern if pattern is ultimately going to change. I know it seems that way in recent years. Honestly though wet and cold patterns shouldn't be exclusive. We had some amazing low pressure tracks for early winter that failed to produce because there was no cold air anywhere, but it's not like having antecedent cold air around would have kept those storm tracks from happening. I don't think cold and wet are mutually exclusive.....granted....BRUTALLY cold and wet usually are though. If we can keep this <angrysummons>boobie<angrysummons> look going.....split flow...and start bringing normal to slightly below normal air on the playing field than our only issue becomes timing, but at least there's something to track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pondo1000 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 52 minutes ago, buckeye said: I know it seems that way in recent years. Honestly though wet and cold patterns shouldn't be exclusive. We had some amazing low pressure tracks for early winter that failed to produce because there was no cold air anywhere, but it's not like having antecedent cold air around would have kept those storm tracks from happening. I don't think cold and wet are mutually exclusive.....granted....BRUTALLY cold and wet usually are though. If we can keep this <angrysummons>boobie<angrysummons> look going.....split flow...and start bringing normal to slightly below normal air on the playing field than our only issue becomes timing, but at least there's something to track. Believe it when I see it. Though, I fully anticipate texts from my sister on the east coast complaining of all the snow. She recently moved & I tried to get her to move here so she could bring some of that luck this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted January 5, 2019 Author Share Posted January 5, 2019 3 hours ago, buckeye said: I'd mourn for Indy if that happened.... I've always felt CMH and Indy have a special bond of brotherhood, forged in futility. 12z GGEM sticking to its guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Just now, pondo1000 said: Believe it when I see it. Though, I fully anticipate texts from my sister on the east coast complaining of all the snow. She recently moved & I tried to get her to move here so she could bring some of that luck this way. My daughter moved to DC for work this summer. When she came home for Christmas she told me she loved how warm it is there . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pondo1000 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, buckeye said: My daughter moved to DC for work this summer. When she came home for Christmas she told me she loved how warm it is there . Exactly!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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