CheeselandSkies Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Nah, I think they didn't use the hatched area because their confidence in a high-end tornado event has decreased. If the EURO from late last week were to have verified, we should have been looking at at least a 15 hatch MDT if not HIGH risk by now. My how the "King" has been dethroned. Used to be it was the GFS you could always throw out for over-pumping setups in the medium range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araqiel Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 That figures, 2018 gonna 2018 after all. 06Z HRRR still looks better than the NAM I'd say but probably not enough to get me up at 3AM to see whats going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share Posted November 5, 2018 ay 1 Convective Outlook NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK 0700 AM CST Mon Nov 05 2018 Valid 051300Z - 061200Z ...THERE IS AN ENHANCED RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS ACROSS PORTIONS OF LA/AR/MS/TN/AL... ...SUMMARY... Severe storms capable of damaging winds and tornadoes are likely this evening and overnight across the ArkLaMiss region and Tennessee Valley. ...Mid-South/ArkLaMiss/Tennessee Valley... On the heels of a shortwave trough moving northeastward over the Great Lakes, a strengthening polar jet and appreciably amplifying shortwave trough will move east/northeast over the Ozarks and a broad portion of the Midwest especially late this afternoon through tonight. Although relatively dry/cool continental air persists inland early today (regional 12Z observed soundings), a maritime air mass along the TX/LA/MS/AL coasts will quickly develop north-northeastward today within an evolving warm sector ahead of a southeastward-moving/sharpening cold front. This front will reach the Middle Mississippi River Valley and ArkLaTex region by early evening. The somewhat modest nature of boundary layer moistening with northward extent, coincident with the strongest dynamical forcing for ascent later today, will likely preclude a higher-caliber severe episode, although an appreciable severe risk will nonetheless exist including the possibility of corridors of damaging winds along with some tornadoes, a few of which could be strong (EF2+). Considerable mass response will occur tonight as the upper trough centered over IA/MO/IL takes on an increasingly negative tilt. Significantly strengthening deep-layer southwesterly winds, highlighted by 55-75 kt winds at 850 mb and 70-100 kt winds at 500 mb, will largely overlie areas of at least modest boundary-layer moisture/destabilization this evening into the overnight. Initial thunderstorm development over the Ozarks should largely be elevated this afternoon with a relatively limited severe risk (some hail possible). However, the potential for surface-rooted storms is likely to increase toward and after 00Z/6pm CST initially in areas near/just of west of the MS River including eastern AR, with more isolated storm development possible southwestward across the ArkLaTex vicinity. MLCAPE to upwards of 500-1000 J/kg (highest across the ArkLaTex) will be more than adequate for surface-based supercells within a highly sheared environment. While some hail may initially occur with supercell development early this evening, damaging winds and the potential for tornadoes will be the most likely hazards much of the evening into the overnight. Continued boundary-layer moistening after sunset, along with an overall increase in forcing for ascent and deep-layer/low-level shear will support a steady upswing in storm coverage/intensity this evening particularly across western/central KY, western/middle TN and northern MS. A transitional mixed convective mode is likely to be prevalent during the mid-evening hours, which may be the peak risk for tornadoes, a few of which could strong given adequate moisture and robust low-level SRH. Given the previously described dynamical scenario, the regional severe risk will likely continue well into the overnight/pre-dawn hours of Tuesday. As the squall line accelerates east-northeastward and firms in integrity late tonight (55+ kt storm motions are plausible), damaging winds along with at least some QLCS-related tornado risk may occur as far northeast as eastern portions of KY and TN on the windward side of the Appalachians, even with minimal surface-rooted buoyancy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araqiel Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 And the 10% hatched returns. =) Quite a shift in the focus of the earlier stuff too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araqiel Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Whole lot of cloud around today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrgjeff Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 That hatched is back! Maybe within a QLCS but it is a tough forecast. Also, welcome Araqiel! Here is my take. Event is looking less like a super cell laden tornado outbreak. QLCS tornadoes are certainly on the table. As I type elevated convection is in progress over Arkansas. Late this afternoon it should become rooted and/or new stronger storms will develop in the Mid South and Delta including around Memphis. Those may be messy, but the only chance of a daytime chase. Rain should reach Nashville with late afternoon daylight, but I doubt those leading thundershowers will be significant into BNA. Appears the line actually strengthens into the evening hours after dark from Middle Tenn back into Mississippi; then, moving into North Alabama. Should be more straight line wind. May be a few QLCS tornadoes. Looks like JIT (just-in-time) moisture and perhaps not juxtaposed with the best dynamics; so, maybe Dixie can avoid a night time mauler. Toward 00Z the short-wave trough punches across with vigor; but, then heights almost go neutral overnight (vs falling). Explains some warmer mid-level forecasts. Dixie at night can overcome all that with a forced line. Just does not look like a big tornado outbreak - thankfully. CAMs offer 3 scenarios and I'd pick the middle ground. HRRR is quite robust overnight; one can almost see predicted QLCS spin-ups. LLJ will be going strong. NAM shows a skinny squall line that appears forced, and probably low-top. ARW (run or WRF like NAM) shows in-between. Strong line looks like it has straight line punch, maybe 1-2 spin-ups. No plans to chase. Sloppy storm mode and JIT moisture make an easy stay-home decision. Lack of daylight weighs too. Everyone be safe overnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMZ8990 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Winds are starting to gust pretty good In west tn now. Definitely starting to feel this front pushing in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Nah, I think they didn't use the hatched area because their confidence in a high-end tornado event has decreased. If the EURO from late last week were to have verified, we should have been looking at at least a 15 hatch MDT if not HIGH risk by now. My how the "King" has been dethroned. Used to be it was the GFS you could always throw out for over-pumping setups in the medium range.Yeah, the 00z ECMWF and the 12z even more so backed down on CAPE surface values and timing of surface-level backing winds. There is still strong low-level shear and 0-3km helicity but the mode looks to go quasi-linear early. The threat of discrete super cells from Northern MS to Nashville looks reduced versus runs up to a mere 24 hrs ago. I don't know if the ECMWF has necessarily been "dethroned" but it definitely had been more tornadic versus the GFS through yesterday. That doesn't mean we still won't see some intense action in the hatched region tonight, but it seems strong frontline winds and brief spinups were going to be the order of the night for the majority of the TN Valley regardless. Edit: I originally said the threat "looks nothing like" with regards to N MS to Nashville. That's a bit of hyperbole. I should have said the threat is reduced. There is still a threat for tornadoes, the modeling and forecasted storm mode just looks more linear and messy versus what the global ECMWF had been showing into early weekend runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Cloud coverage has broken over portions of MS and much of Tennessee. May aid in further destabilization. NE Mississippi and all the northern half of Alabama still looks thick as molasses though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Latest HRRR around 11 PM EST / 10 PM CST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Possible first tornado in LA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, Windspeed said: Possible first tornado in LA. There was a confirmed TOG near Natchitoches earlier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Severe Weather Statement National Weather Service Shreveport LA 428 PM CST MON NOV 5 2018 LAC127-052245- /O.CON.KSHV.TO.W.0101.000000T0000Z-181105T2245Z/ Winn LA- 428 PM CST MON NOV 5 2018 ...A TORNADO WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 445 PM CST FOR SOUTHWESTERN WINN PARISH... At 427 PM CST, a confirmed tornado was located 7 miles north of Montgomery, or 9 miles east of Natchitoches, moving northeast at 30 mph. HAZARD...Damaging tornado. SOURCE...Radar confirmed tornado. IMPACT...Flying debris will be dangerous to those caught without shelter. Mobile homes will be damaged or destroyed. Damage to roofs, windows, and vehicles will occur. Tree damage is likely. Locations impacted include... St. Maurice. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... To repeat, a tornado is on the ground. TAKE COVER NOW! Move to a basement or an interior room on the lowest floor of a sturdy building. Avoid windows. If you are outdoors, in a mobile home, or in a vehicle, move to the closest substantial shelter and protect yourself from flying debris. && LAT...LON 3173 9297 3177 9297 3180 9295 3183 9295 3182 9294 3185 9292 3185 9291 3186 9290 3187 9290 3190 9286 3174 9272 3171 9290 3171 9298 TIME...MOT...LOC 2227Z 238DEG 24KT 3176 9294 TORNADO...OBSERVED HAIL...<.75IN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araqiel Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Looks nasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokeEater Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Not a good sign these are discrete and producing so fast. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Supercell near Ringgold is impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwohweather Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 There has to be a monster north of Natchitoches. Thing has a legit donuthole on the reflectivity, usually only seen with strong tornadoes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokeEater Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 There has to be a monster north of Natchitoches. Thing has a legit donuthole on the reflectivity, usually only seen with strong tornadoesWas 130 kts G2G last scan too.Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 TOR still going. This cell may be quite the longtracker and not even in the best dynamics yet. Most of this early coverage is within the slight risk. Edit: More like may not be the longtracker. lol, not long after I made this post, the Natchitoches cell fell apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share Posted November 6, 2018 Tornado Watch TORNADO WATCH OUTLINE UPDATE FOR WT 423 NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 700 PM CST MON NOV 5 2018 TORNADO WATCH 423 IS IN EFFECT UNTIL 300 AM CST FOR THE FOLLOWING LOCATIONS TNC003-005-015-017-021-023-031-033-037-039-043-047-053-055-069- 071-075-077-079-081-083-085-099-101-109-111-113-117-119-125-135- 147-149-157-159-161-165-167-169-181-183-187-189-060900- /O.NEW.KWNS.TO.A.0423.181106T0100Z-181106T0900Z/ TN . TENNESSEE COUNTIES INCLUDED ARE BEDFORD BENTON CANNON CARROLL CHEATHAM CHESTER COFFEE CROCKETT DAVIDSON DECATUR DICKSON FAYETTE GIBSON GILES HARDEMAN HARDIN HAYWOOD HENDERSON HENRY HICKMAN HOUSTON HUMPHREYS LAWRENCE LEWIS MACON MADISON MARSHALL MAURY MCNAIRY MONTGOMERY PERRY ROBERTSON RUTHERFORD SHELBY SMITH STEWART SUMNER TIPTON TROUSDALE WAYNE WEAKLEY WILLIAMSON WILSON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share Posted November 6, 2018 Tornado Watch Number 423 NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK 700 PM CST Mon Nov 5 2018 The NWS Storm Prediction Center has issued a * Tornado Watch for portions of Southeastern Arkansas Northern Mississippi Western and middle Tennessee * Effective this Monday night and Tuesday morning from 700 PM until 300 AM CST. * Primary threats include... A few tornadoes likely with a couple intense tornadoes possible Scattered damaging wind gusts to 70 mph possible SUMMARY...As the air mass moistens and destabilizes from southwest to northeast, the potential for tornadoes and damaging gusts will increase, with a band of storms moving rapidly across the Mid-South tonight. The tornado watch area is approximately along and 80 statute miles east and west of a line from 55 miles east southeast of Pine Bluff AR to 45 miles west northwest of Nashville TN. For a complete depiction of the watch see the associated watch outline update (WOUS64 KWNS WOU3). PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... REMEMBER...A Tornado Watch means conditions are favorable for tornadoes and severe thunderstorms in and close to the watch area. Persons in these areas should be on the lookout for threatening weather conditions and listen for later statements and possible warnings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 First tornado warning in the strong QLCS line just east of Clarksdale, MS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jaxjagman Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share Posted November 6, 2018 Picking up in Ms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share Posted November 6, 2018 URGENT - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED Tornado Watch Number 424 NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK 1030 PM CST Mon Nov 5 2018 The NWS Storm Prediction Center has issued a * Tornado Watch for portions of Northern Alabama South-central Kentucky Middle to eastern Tennessee * Effective this Monday night and Tuesday morning from 1030 PM until 600 AM CST. * Primary threats include... A few tornadoes possible Scattered damaging wind gusts to 70 mph possible SUMMARY...Isolated, sporadic circulations developing within a band of storms may pose a tornado/wind risk over the watch area through the next several hours. The tornado watch area is approximately along and 55 statute miles east and west of a line from 40 miles east southeast of Columbus MS to 90 miles north of Crossville TN. For a complete depiction of the watch see the associated watch outline update (WOUS64 KWNS WOU4). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southmdwatcher Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Northside of Tupelo MS, clear TDS for 5+ scans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa Clause Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Tupelo under TOR warning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa Clause Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Confirmed TOR near Tupelo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 possible tornado near the NW corner of Alabama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 this is a radar confirmed tornado about 33 mi SW of Nashville Quote ...A TORNADO WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 1145 PM CST FOR NORTHERN MAURY...WESTERN WILLIAMSON AND SOUTHEASTERN HICKMAN COUNTIES... At 1118 PM CST, a confirmed tornado was located 14 miles northwest of Columbia, or near Williamsport, moving northeast at 50 mph. HAZARD...Damaging tornado. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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