Mountain West Discussion

[finnster]

20 hours ago, finnster said:

Good post.  I haven't posted here for awhile - been staying away intentionally as hoping for any storms on the front range is pretty much an exercise in futility and disappointment.  I am not a native but have been here longer than most (55 years).  I can say from experience that the last 3 years, and the last 2 decades in general, have not been kind to the front range - to the point that my wife and I considering moving else where.  The things I've liked about the climate here are no more: heavy fall and spring snows (at least once in a while!), upslope storms, thunderstorms in summer afternoons, and more moderate temps in the summer (as noted above June is now just scorching hot - didn't used to be that way).  It seems that storm tracks are to the north of CO or south, and the front range remains in no-mans land.

My brother lives in Payson, AZ and called this morning saying they got 27" of snow.  I am very happy to see the SW get these storms they've truly needed it.  I know everything changes, nothing stays the same.  For whatever reason it just seems the CO front range is bearing the brunt of the bad things about climate change, and who knows if/when that will actually turn around.    

K

 

On 2/22/2019 at 4:24 PM, mayjawintastawm said:

My sense in talking to a bunch of CO natives over the past few years is that the things that are missing are some big early and more late winter/spring upslope events they remember from when they were growing up. May-June used to be reliably greener, according to a PhD I know who is now in his 70s. The past few March/Aprils have not been real wet generally, Junes have been very hot, and Halloween, which was formerly an adventure in freezing one's butt off underneath one's costume, is a much milder affair than days of yore. Let's see what the next couple months bring... we could be pleasantly surprised.

Historically, it's interesting when you think about when the Front Range was first settled by those from the Eastern US about 100-130 years ago. Water booms and busts are normal, with busts more common. A wet few decades lured many to the area, then the Dust Bowl jarred everyone back to reality.

Of course, if you go to the New England board, you'd think they expect an epic blizzard every 10 days between Thanksgiving and Easter. It really was NOT like that in the 1970s other than a few memorable events. 

 I might also add: although the Dust Bowl may have jarred folks back to reality for awhile, many have since conveniently forgotten or ignore what history has taught us when there is a pile of money to be made.  The amount of land being scraped for new development requiring more water is going on like there is no tomorrow.  Many farmers on the plains increasingly abandon conservation practices learned after the Dust Bowl era to grow more and more row crops (eg corn for bio fuel).  Even Colorado State University, who preaches about climate change and water conservation, recently sold its old football stadium site along the foothills to a developer that will build 600-700 new homes there - complete with blue grass lawns of course.

Examples could go on and on. All this going on in an era of frequent droughts and decreasing precipitation and snow packs.  These dry spells historically have and will continue to happen in Colorado, the difference now being millions of people live here with more and more water demands.

[finnster]

On 2/20/2019 at 11:04 PM, snowfan789 said:

What do we need for a legitimately snowy pattern just east of the Rockies? Seriously. Trough in the West/negative PNA? Nope. The opposite? Nope. Not sure how it’s even realistically possible at this point when both sides of the coin seem to be yielding close to nada except for a few lucky spots.

I keep telling my wife that the area just east of the Colorado Rockies (i.e. here) has become the place where good storms come to die....

[raindancewx]

To be honest, the AMO and PDO have both been negative at times this winter. Looking familiar for Colorado?

AMO was negative in both Nov-Dec, PDO was neutral overall for 2018. We seem to be in a blend of the left two images in some ways.

[snowfan789]

59 minutes ago, raindancewx said:

To be honest, the AMO and PDO have both been negative at times this winter. Looking familiar for Colorado?

AMO was negative in both Nov-Dec, PDO was neutral overall for 2018. We seem to be in a blend of the left two images in some ways.

So 3/4 = bad for eastern CO.  Hoping for the upper left box in March and April!

[snowfan789]

13 hours ago, finnster said:

I keep telling my wife that the area just east of the Colorado Rockies (i.e. here) has become the place where good storms come to die....

I wonder if the northward shift of the jet (thanks to climate change) has something to do with it? Just a passing thought. It’s interesting to note that some places east of but still close to the Rockies that are north of Colorado have had good winters recently, like Billings, MT.

[raindancewx]

This is what I mean by the cold AMO - that ring has not been present for that long in ages. It looks like the early/late year of the -AMO cycle, like early 1960s or late 1980s.

 

[ValpoVike]

On 2/24/2019 at 10:23 PM, snowfan789 said:

I wonder if the northward shift of the jet (thanks to climate change) has something to do with it? Just a passing thought. It’s interesting to note that some places east of but still close to the Rockies that are north of Colorado have had good winters recently, like Billings, MT.

Sure there have been some duds the past two years, but Denver (the only reliable long term data site that I can find in the plains) has a long record of ups and downs:

Denver's Official Snowfall Totals From the National Weather Service Denver Snowfall Long Term Average 1882-2015 = 57.1 inches  Denver Snowfall Normal 1981-2010 = 53.8 inches Updated: 2/4/19 (latest from NWS here) Departure based on long term average Measurement locations:  Denver International Airport (2008-Present) Denver Stapleton Airport (1950-2007) 19th & Stout (1916-1949) 16th & Larimer (1882-1915) Does moving the station matter?
	Jul	Aug	Sep	Oct	Nov	Dec	Jan	Feb	Mar	Apr	May	Jun	Total
Monthly Normal	0.0	0.0	1.0	4.2	7.5	8.1	6.6	7.7	11.4	8.9	1.7	T	57.1	Monthly Normal
Cumulative Normal	0.0	0.0	1.0	5.2	12.7	20.8	27.4	35.1	46.5	55.4	57.1	T	57.1	Cumulative Normal
2018-2019	Jul18	Aug18	Sep18	Oct18	Nov18	Dec18	Jan19	Feb19	Mar19	Apr19	May19	Jun19	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	3.2	4.5	0.5	4.9	0.0					13.1	-14.0
2017-2018	Jul17	Aug17	Sep17	Oct17	Nov17	Dec17	Jan18	Feb18	Mar18	Apr18	May18	Jun18	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	2.8	T	4.0	6.4	6.2	4.8	1.5	0.0	0.0	25.7	-29.6
2016-2017	Jul16	Aug16	Sep16	Oct16	Nov16	Dec16	Jan17	Feb17	Mar17	Apr17	May17	Jun17	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	1.7	9.7	6.3	1.6	T	2.5	T	0.0	21.8	-33.5
2015-2016	Jul15	Aug15	Sep15	Oct15	Nov15	Dec15	Jan16	Feb16	Mar16	Apr16	May16	Jun16	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	11.3	11.3	4.6	11.6	18.4	15.6	0.0	0.0	72.8	17.4
2014-2015	Jul14	Aug14	Sep14	Oct14	Nov14	Dec14	Jan15	Feb15	Mar15	Apr15	May15	Jun15	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	4.0	12.0	7.2	22.4	2.9	5.3	4.0	0.0	57.8	0.7
2013-2014	Jul13	Aug13	Sep13	Oct13	Nov13	Dec13	Jan14	Feb14	Mar14	Apr14	May14	Jun14	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	1.4	2.0	4.7	14.3	3.3	6.0	5.6	1.1	0.0	38.4	-18.7
2012-2013	Jul12	Aug12	Sep12	Oct12	Nov12	Dec12	Jan13	Feb13	Mar13	Apr13	May13	Jun13	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	5.5	1.7	5.2	4.6	14.1	23.5	20.4	3.4	0.0	78.4	21.3
2011-2012	Jul11	Aug11	Sep11	Oct11	Nov11	Dec11	Jan12	Feb12	Mar12	Apr12	May12	Jun12	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	8.5	4.5	16.5	4.9	20.2	T	1.0	0.0	0.0	55.6	-1.9
2010-2011	Jul10	Aug10	Sep10	Oct10	Nov10	Dec10	Jan11	Feb11	Mar11	Apr11	May11	Jun11	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	1.5	3.3	8.0	5.3	2.5	1.2	1.0	0.0	22.8	-34.7
2009-2010	Jul09	Aug09	Sep09	Oct09	Nov09	Dec09	Jan10	Feb10	Mar10	Apr10	May10	Jun10	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	17.2	9.3	11.1	2.6	5.8	12.8	0.5	1.3	0.0	60.6	3.1
2008-2009	Jul08	Aug08	Sep08	Oct08	Nov08	Dec08	Jan09	Feb09	Mar09	Apr09	May09	Jun09	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	T	1.7	10.3	4.9	T	13.8	7.4	0.0	0.0	38.1	-19.5
2007-2008	Jul07	Aug07	Sep07	Oct07	Nov07	Dec07	Jan08	Feb08	Mar08	Apr08	May08	Jun08	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	3.0	2.5	20.9	3.1	5.1	5.4	2.9	3.4	0.0	46.3	-11.2
2006-2007	Jul06	Aug06	Sep06	Oct06	Nov06	Dec06	Jan07	Feb07	Mar07	Apr07	May07	Jun07	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	9.8	4.4	29.4	15.9	5.5	6.7	0.9	0.0	0.0	72.6	15.1
2005-2006	Jul05	Aug05	Sep05	Oct05	Nov05	Dec05	Jan06	Feb06	Mar06	Apr06	May06	Jun06	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	9.6	1.0	4.1	3.6	3.0	8.6	0.3	0.2	0.0	30.4	-27.1
2004-2005	Jul04	Aug04	Sep04	Oct04	Nov04	Dec04	Jan05	Feb05	Mar05	Apr05	May05	Jun05	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	1.4	10.0	2.6	7.4	0.5	4.6	11.4	1.4	0.0	39.3	-18.2
2003-2004	Jul03	Aug03	Sep03	Oct03	Nov03	Dec03	Jan04	Feb04	Mar04	Apr04	May04	Jun04	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	2.9	4.5	4.6	8.9	1.8	15.3	T	0.0	38.0	-19.5
2002-2003	Jul02	Aug02	Sep02	Oct02	Nov02	Dec02	Jan03	Feb03	Mar03	Apr03	May03	Jun03	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	4.8	3.9	T	T	7.5	35.2	3.4	7.0	0.0	61.8	4.3
2001-2002	Jul01	Aug01	Sep01	Oct01	Nov01	Dec01	Jan02	Feb02	Mar02	Apr02	May02	Jun02	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	1.0	4.2	2.9	6.1	2.8	12.5	T	0.7	0.0	30.2	-27.3
2000-2001	Jul00	Aug00	Sep00	Oct00	Nov00	Dec00	Jan01	Feb01	Mar01	Apr01	May01	Jun01	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.2	T	7.6	5.6	8.7	10.6	6.7	11.7	7.2	0.0	58.3	0.8
1999-2000	Jul99	Aug99	Sep99	Oct99	Nov99	Dec99	Jan00	Feb00	Mar00	Apr00	May00	Jun00	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	3.1	4.8	8.4	5.4	6.2	1.8	11.3	4.6	0.0	0.0	45.6	-11.9
1998-1999	Jul98	Aug98	Sep98	Oct98	Nov98	Dec98	Jan99	Feb99	Mar99	Apr99	May99	Jun99	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	4.0	8.9	6.4	1.3	4.2	19.7	T	0.0	44.5	-13.0
1997-1998	Jul97	Aug97	Sep97	Oct97	Nov97	Dec97	Jan98	Feb98	Mar98	Apr98	May98	Jun98	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	22.1	7.7	9.4	2.3	3.0	17.1	10.5	0.0	0.0	72.1	14.6
1996-1997	Jul96	Aug96	Sep96	Oct96	Nov96	Dec96	Jan97	Feb97	Mar97	Apr97	May97	Jun97	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	4.7	1.5	5.7	1.8	7.0	9.9	3.3	10.7	0.1	0.0	44.7	-12.8
1995-1996	Jul95	Aug95	Sep95	Oct95	Nov95	Dec95	Jan96	Feb96	Mar96	Apr96	May96	Jun96	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	7.4	2.2	6.9	0.6	10.4	3.2	16.4	3.2	0.0	0.0	50.3	-7.2
1994-1995	Jul94	Aug94	Sep94	Oct94	Nov94	Dec94	Jan95	Feb95	Mar95	Apr95	May95	Jun95	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	1.4	T	16.9	3.8	2.0	9.7	7.4	17.2	0.0	0.0	58.4	0.9
1993-1994	Jul93	Aug93	Sep93	Oct93	Nov93	Dec93	Jan94	Feb94	Mar94	Apr94	May94	Jun94	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	5.4	5.4	17.4	5.6	6.1	8.8	9.2	11.2	0.0	0.0	69.1	11.6
1992-1993	Jul92	Aug92	Sep92	Oct92	Nov92	Dec92	Jan93	Feb93	Mar93	Apr93	May93	Jun93	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.1	20.1	11.0	3.7	16.9	4.9	3.7	0.0	0.0	60.4	2.9
1991-1992	Jul91	Aug91	Sep91	Oct91	Nov91	Dec91	Jan92	Feb92	Mar92	Apr92	May92	Jun92	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	7.3	29.6	1.9	24.3	0.3	15.6	0.0	0.0	0.0	79.0	21.5
1990-1991	Jul90	Aug90	Sep90	Oct90	Nov90	Dec90	Jan91	Feb91	Mar91	Apr91	May91	Jun91	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	7.6	12.0	4.7	14.1	0.8	4.2	14.3	T	0.0	57.7	0.2
1989-1990	Jul89	Aug89	Sep89	Oct89	Nov89	Dec89	Jan90	Feb90	Mar90	Apr90	May90	Jun90	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	2.3	7.8	1.6	11.8	8.4	7.0	21.9	3.6	0.1	0.0	64.5	7.0
1988-1989	Jul88	Aug88	Sep88	Oct88	Nov88	Dec88	Jan89	Feb89	Mar89	Apr89	May89	Jun89	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	2.8	12.3	13.0	8.2	4.8	9.0	0.0	0.0	50.1	-7.4
1987-1988	Jul87	Aug87	Sep87	Oct87	Nov87	Dec87	Jan88	Feb88	Mar88	Apr88	May88	Jun88	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	T	11.2	21.5	5.8	7.0	13.5	2.0	1.3	0.0	62.3	4.8
1986-1987	Jul86	Aug86	Sep86	Oct86	Nov86	Dec86	Jan87	Feb87	Mar87	Apr87	May87	Jun87	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	4.3	11.5	4.9	17.0	12.2	11.5	9.9	0.0	0.0	71.3	13.8
1985-1986	Jul85	Aug85	Sep85	Oct85	Nov85	Dec85	Jan86	Feb86	Mar86	Apr86	May86	Jun86	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	8.7	1.9	17.0	10.3	2.4	6.2	2.6	14.0	0.0	0.0	63.1	5.6
1984-1985	Jul84	Aug84	Sep84	Oct84	Nov84	Dec84	Jan85	Feb85	Mar85	Apr85	May85	Jun85	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	5.2	13.1	2.3	5.0	12.5	8.7	7.6	0.8	T	0.0	55.2	-2.3
1983-1984	Jul83	Aug83	Sep83	Oct83	Nov83	Dec83	Jan84	Feb84	Mar84	Apr84	May84	Jun84	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	T	T	29.3	11.5	3.4	7.9	12.0	16.8	T	0.0	80.9	23.4
1982-1983	Jul82	Aug82	Sep82	Oct82	Nov82	Dec82	Jan83	Feb83	Mar83	Apr83	May83	Jun83	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	1.2	1.8	27.1	1.3	0.8	30.5	11.3	7.6	0.0	81.6	24.1
1981-1982	Jul81	Aug81	Sep81	Oct81	Nov81	Dec81	Jan82	Feb82	Mar82	Apr82	May82	Jun82	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	2.8	3.3	9.9	4.8	1.8	2.0	2.0	T	0.0	26.6	-30.9
1980-1981	Jul80	Aug80	Sep80	Oct80	Nov80	Dec80	Jan81	Feb81	Mar81	Apr81	May81	Jun81	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	1.5	7.1	1.2	4.1	4.3	24.0	2.9	T	0.0	45.1	-12.4
1979-1980	Jul79	Aug79	Sep79	Oct79	Nov79	Dec79	Jan80	Feb80	Mar80	Apr80	May80	Jun80	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	2.7	22.3	16.5	12.3	9.6	12.1	10.0	T	0.0	85.5	28.0
1978-1979	Jul78	Aug78	Sep78	Oct78	Nov78	Dec78	Jan79	Feb79	Mar79	Apr79	May79	Jun79	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	T	2.7	6.9	14.2	9.1	5.8	18.2	8.1	8.2	0.0	73.2	15.7
1977-1978	Jul77	Aug77	Sep77	Oct77	Nov77	Dec77	Jan78	Feb78	Mar78	Apr78	May78	Jun78	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	3.3	4.1	0.7	5.5	6.2	8.6	4.6	13.5	0.0	46.5	-11.0
1976-1977	Jul76	Aug76	Sep76	Oct76	Nov76	Dec76	Jan77	Feb77	Mar77	Apr77	May77	Jun77	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	7.2	4.5	3.1	2.4	3.1	9.6	4.7	0.0	0.0	34.6	-23.1
1975-1976	Jul75	Aug75	Sep75	Oct75	Nov75	Dec75	Jan76	Feb76	Mar76	Apr76	May76	Jun76	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	2.7	15.2	7.3	3.2	6.4	18.7	1.2	0.0	0.0	54.7	-2.8
1974-1975	Jul74	Aug74	Sep74	Oct74	Nov74	Dec74	Jan75	Feb75	Mar75	Apr75	May75	Jun75	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	1.8	1.0	11.9	2.1	3.6	4.0	14.3	10.9	6.1	0.0	55.7	-1.8
1973-1974	Jul73	Aug73	Sep73	Oct73	Nov73	Dec73	Jan74	Feb74	Mar74	Apr74	May74	Jun74	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	2.3	9.3	30.8	8.2	10.3	12.8	17.8	0.0	T	91.5	34.0
1972-1973	Jul72	Aug72	Sep72	Oct72	Nov72	Dec72	Jan73	Feb73	Mar73	Apr73	May73	Jun73	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	9.7	19.4	9.8	12.1	3.0	15.1	24.8	1.0	0.0	94.9	37.4
1971-1972	Jul71	Aug71	Sep71	Oct71	Nov71	Dec71	Jan72	Feb72	Mar72	Apr72	May72	Jun72	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	17.2	3.1	1.4	8.4	10.9	9.1	7.1	17.2	0.0	0.0	74.4	16.9
1970-1971	Jul70	Aug70	Sep70	Oct70	Nov70	Dec70	Jan71	Feb71	Mar71	Apr71	May71	Jun71	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	4.6	5.9	9.2	0.9	8.6	11.9	9.6	6.0	0.0	0.0	56.7	-0.8
1969-1970	Jul69	Aug69	Sep69	Oct69	Nov69	Dec69	Jan70	Feb70	Mar70	Apr70	May70	Jun70	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	31.2	5.1	3.1	0.9	0.3	20.5	4.7	0.0	0.0	65.8	8.3
1968-1969	Jul68	Aug68	Sep68	Oct68	Nov68	Dec68	Jan69	Feb69	Mar69	Apr69	May69	Jun69	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.4	5.8	6.9	2.8	4.2	13.2	T	0.0	0.0	33.3	-24.2
1967-1968	Jul67	Aug67	Sep67	Oct67	Nov67	Dec67	Jan68	Feb68	Mar68	Apr68	May68	Jun68	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	1.7	9.4	13.1	3.0	7.3	9.2	15.1	T	0.0	58.8	1.3
1966-1967	Jul66	Aug66	Sep66	Oct66	Nov66	Dec66	Jan67	Feb67	Mar67	Apr67	May67	Jun67	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	T	8.3	3.0	1.9	9.9	4.4	6.6	3.6	3.0	0.0	40.7	-16.8
1965-1966	Jul65	Aug65	Sep65	Oct65	Nov65	Dec65	Jan66	Feb66	Mar66	Apr66	May66	Jun66	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	5.5	0.0	5.5	5.6	3.6	14.6	2.8	6.4	2.9	0.0	46.9	-10.6
1964-1965	Jul64	Aug64	Sep64	Oct64	Nov64	Dec64	Jan65	Feb65	Mar65	Apr65	May65	Jun65	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	6.0	4.4	13.2	17.1	14.9	0.3	0.0	0.0	55.9	-1.6
1963-1964	Jul63	Aug63	Sep63	Oct63	Nov63	Dec63	Jan64	Feb64	Mar64	Apr64	May64	Jun64	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	1.1	3.5	5.9	2.6	12.7	18.4	12.1	1.0	0.0	57.3	-0.2
1962-1963	Jul62	Aug62	Sep62	Oct62	Nov62	Dec62	Jan63	Feb63	Mar63	Apr63	May63	Jun63	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.7	0.0	5.0	1.2	9.1	2.1	18.0	0.2	0.0	0.0	36.3	-21.2
1961-1962	Jul61	Aug61	Sep61	Oct61	Nov61	Dec61	Jan62	Feb62	Mar62	Apr62	May62	Jun62	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	5.8	6.2	11.4	3.8	17.2	11.3	6.8	10.0	0.0	0.0	72.5	15.0
1960-1961	Jul60	Aug60	Sep60	Oct60	Nov60	Dec60	Jan61	Feb61	Mar61	Apr61	May61	Jun61	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	4.6	5.1	17.8	1.0	7.9	29.2	8.6	6.4	0.0	80.6	23.1
1959-1960	Jul59	Aug59	Sep59	Oct59	Nov59	Dec59	Jan60	Feb60	Mar60	Apr60	May60	Jun60	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	12.9	11.8	5.3	2.7	10.7	18.3	9.0	9.3	0.0	0.0	80.0	22.5
1958-1959	Jul58	Aug58	Sep58	Oct58	Nov58	Dec58	Jan59	Feb59	Mar59	Apr59	May59	Jun59	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	T	2.6	9.7	7.7	17.4	17.5	26.8	17.6	0.0	0.0	99.3	41.8
1957-1958	Jul57	Aug57	Sep57	Oct57	Nov57	Dec57	Jan58	Feb58	Mar58	Apr58	May58	Jun58	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	3.9	3.0	0.8	8.9	12.0	14.4	14.1	0.0	0.0	57.1	-0.4
1956-1957	Jul56	Aug56	Sep56	Oct56	Nov56	Dec56	Jan57	Feb57	Mar57	Apr57	May57	Jun57	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.6	21.3	6.3	5.3	1.6	8.9	25.5	8.8	0.0	78.3	20.8
1955-1956	Jul55	Aug55	Sep55	Oct55	Nov55	Dec55	Jan56	Feb56	Mar56	Apr56	May56	Jun56	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.3	4.1	7.3	2.9	6.3	10.5	13.0	3.7	0.0	0.0	48.1	-9.4
1954-1955	Jul54	Aug54	Sep54	Oct54	Nov54	Dec54	Jan55	Feb55	Mar55	Apr55	May55	Jun55	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.4	3.9	8.6	3.5	12.2	19.5	4.9	T	0.0	53.0	-4.5
1953-1954	Jul53	Aug53	Sep53	Oct53	Nov53	Dec53	Jan54	Feb54	Mar54	Apr54	May54	Jun54	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.1	7.2	14.4	2.7	0.6	6.3	7.6	2.6	0.0	41.5	-16.0
1952-1953	Jul52	Aug52	Sep52	Oct52	Nov52	Dec52	Jan53	Feb53	Mar53	Apr53	May53	Jun53	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	1.2	14.5	3.1	7.4	16.5	11.8	12.0	1.7	0.0	68.2	10.7
1951-1952	Jul51	Aug51	Sep51	Oct51	Nov51	Dec51	Jan52	Feb52	Mar52	Apr52	May52	Jun52	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	4.2	8.1	14.5	11.2	0.3	10.2	25.2	11.2	T	0.0	84.9	27.4
1950-1951	Jul50	Aug50	Sep50	Oct50	Nov50	Dec50	Jan51	Feb51	Mar51	Apr51	May51	Jun51	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	11.9	5.9	15.7	10.5	17.6	12.9	0.0	0.3	74.8	17.3
1949-1950	Jul49	Aug49	Sep49	Oct49	Nov49	Dec49	Jan50	Feb50	Mar50	Apr50	May50	Jun50	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	7.2	0.0	6.0	8.8	2.9	5.4	9.0	13.6	0.0	52.9	-4.6
1948-1949	Jul48	Aug48	Sep48	Oct48	Nov48	Dec48	Jan49	Feb49	Mar49	Apr49	May49	Jun49	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	T	9.3	4.3	22.2	1.5	15.4	7.0	T	0.0	59.7	2.2
1947-1948	Jul47	Aug47	Sep47	Oct47	Nov47	Dec47	Jan48	Feb48	Mar48	Apr48	May48	Jun48	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	1.6	7.5	6.7	19.2	7.4	20.8	4.1	T	0.0	67.3	9.8
1946-1947	Jul46	Aug46	Sep46	Oct46	Nov46	Dec46	Jan47	Feb47	Mar47	Apr47	May47	Jun47	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	T	6.0	42.6	2.7	8.0	13.0	17.7	2.5	1.0	0.0	93.5	36.0
1945-1946	Jul45	Aug45	Sep45	Oct45	Nov45	Dec45	Jan46	Feb46	Mar46	Apr46	May46	Jun46	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	1.1	2.9	5.5	1.2	10.1	3.0	4.3	T	0.5	0.0	28.6	-28.9
1944-1945	Jul44	Aug44	Sep44	Oct44	Nov44	Dec44	Jan45	Feb45	Mar45	Apr45	May45	Jun45	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	4.3	2.4	9.1	4.3	3.3	28.2	T	0.0	51.6	-5.9
1943-1944	Jul43	Aug43	Sep43	Oct43	Nov43	Dec43	Jan44	Feb44	Mar44	Apr44	May44	Jun44	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	2.5	4.0	4.5	13.0	6.2	32.5	19.5	8.3	0.0	90.5	33.0
1942-1943	Jul42	Aug42	Sep42	Oct42	Nov42	Dec42	Jan43	Feb43	Mar43	Apr43	May43	Jun43	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.3	10.6	2.8	4.5	3.2	1.0	11.9	0.0	2.0	0.0	36.3	-21.2
1941-1942	Jul41	Aug41	Sep41	Oct41	Nov41	Dec41	Jan42	Feb42	Mar42	Apr42	May42	Jun42	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	T	0.4	4.2	10.6	7.7	19.5	10.2	6.1	T	0.0	58.7	1.2
1940-1941	Jul40	Aug40	Sep40	Oct40	Nov40	Dec40	Jan41	Feb41	Mar41	Apr41	May41	Jun41	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	7.7	5.4	7.4	2.5	6.0	8.9	0.0	0.0	37.9	-19.6
1939-1940	Jul39	Aug39	Sep39	Oct39	Nov39	Dec39	Jan40	Feb40	Mar40	Apr40	May40	Jun40	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	5.6	T	4.1	11.2	9.7	20.0	3.3	0.0	0.0	53.9	-3.6
1938-1939	Jul38	Aug38	Sep38	Oct38	Nov38	Dec38	Jan39	Feb39	Mar39	Apr39	May39	Jun39	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.5	15.3	9.3	9.6	16.3	3.8	3.2	T	0.0	58.0	0.5
1937-1938	Jul37	Aug37	Sep37	Oct37	Nov37	Dec37	Jan38	Feb38	Mar38	Apr38	May38	Jun38	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	T	0.8	4.9	9.0	10.4	6.7	16.4	7.3	2.7	0.0	58.2	0.7
1936-1937	Jul36	Aug36	Sep36	Oct36	Nov36	Dec36	Jan37	Feb37	Mar37	Apr37	May37	Jun37	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	16.5	7.3	3.7	7.7	6.0	11.7	6.6	12.8	0.0	T	72.3	14.8
1935-1936	Jul35	Aug35	Sep35	Oct35	Nov35	Dec35	Jan36	Feb36	Mar36	Apr36	May36	Jun36	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	2.8	6.8	5.7	0.5	6.1	5.6	15.1	2.7	T	0.0	45.3	-12.2
1934-1935	Jul34	Aug34	Sep34	Oct34	Nov34	Dec34	Jan35	Feb35	Mar35	Apr35	May35	Jun35	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	T	0.0	3.9	7.0	0.8	9.6	3.0	23.3	0.7	0.0	48.3	-9.2
1933-1934	Jul33	Aug33	Sep33	Oct33	Nov33	Dec33	Jan34	Feb34	Mar34	Apr34	May34	Jun34	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	2.5	8.4	T	15.6	8.7	8.8	1.0	0.0	45.0	-12.5
1932-1933	Jul32	Aug32	Sep32	Oct32	Nov32	Dec32	Jan33	Feb33	Mar33	Apr33	May33	Jun33	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	7.0	5.3	8.8	0.2	5.4	9.0	33.8	3.2	0.0	72.7	15.2
1931-1932	Jul31	Aug31	Sep31	Oct31	Nov31	Dec31	Jan32	Feb32	Mar32	Apr32	May32	Jun32	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	T	15.6	0.8	9.2	10.7	16.4	2.7	0.0	0.0	55.4	-2.1
1930-1931	Jul30	Aug30	Sep30	Oct30	Nov30	Dec30	Jan31	Feb31	Mar31	Apr31	May31	Jun32	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.5	13.6	10.6	0.1	18.0	19.0	12.5	7.2	0.0	81.5	24.0
1929-1930	Jul29	Aug29	Sep29	Oct29	Nov29	Dec29	Jan30	Feb30	Mar30	Apr30	May30	Jun30	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.3	16.2	23.1	10.2	12.5	2.2	8.3	0.0	1.0	0.0	73.8	16.3
1928-1929	Jul28	Aug28	Sep28	Oct28	Nov28	Dec28	Jan29	Feb29	Mar29	Apr29	May29	Jun29	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	7.7	23.1	0.1	2.8	15.2	24.8	6.5	0.4	0.0	80.6	23.1
1927-1928	Jul27	Aug27	Sep27	Oct27	Nov27	Dec27	Jan28	Feb28	Mar28	Apr28	May28	Jun28	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	1.7	T	8.8	4.8	3.9	8.6	15.8	13.4	0.0	0.0	57.0	-0.5
1926-1927	Jul26	Aug26	Sep26	Oct26	Nov26	Dec26	Jan27	Feb27	Mar27	Apr27	May27	Jun27	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	T	4.4	2.3	14.8	2.7	5.2	19.1	9.0	T	0.0	57.5	-0.0
1925-1926	Jul25	Aug25	Sep25	Oct25	Nov25	Dec25	Jan26	Feb26	Mar26	Apr26	May26	Jun26	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	10.5	8.6	13.3	11.0	3.8	13.3	4.2	T	0.0	64.7	7.2
1924-1925	Jul24	Aug24	Sep24	Oct24	Nov24	Dec24	Jan25	Feb25	Mar25	Apr25	May25	Jun25	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	T	0.0	2.8	18.4	3.0	0.6	7.5	T	0.0	0.0	32.3	-25.2
1923-1924	Jul23	Aug23	Sep23	Oct23	Nov23	Dec23	Jan24	Feb24	Mar24	Apr24	May24	Jun24	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	17.9	2.0	15.3	8.6	4.6	20.3	16.1	0.6	0.0	85.4	27.9
1922-1923	Jul22	Aug22	Sep22	Oct22	Nov23	Dec22	Jan23	Feb23	Mar23	Apr23	May23	Jun23	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.5	15.4	4.8	1.3	13.8	25.7	2.0	T	0.0	63.5	6.0
1921-1922	Jul21	Aug21	Sep21	Oct21	Nov21	Dec21	Jan22	Feb22	Mar22	Apr22	May22	Jun22	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	1.0	6.5	9.1	4.9	7.0	4.9	21.0	T	0.0	54.4	-3.1
1920-1921	Jul20	Aug20	Sep20	Oct20	Nov20	Dec20	Jan21	Feb21	Mar21	Apr21	May21	Jun21	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	4.3	5.6	7.2	12.0	4.5	6.5	16.5	0.0	0.0	56.6	-0.9
1919-1920	Jul19	Aug19	Sep19	Oct19	Nov19	Dec19	Jan20	Feb20	Mar20	Apr20	May20	Jun20	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	1.9	13.1	6.1	7.3	7.3	7.3	28.3	0.0	0.0	71.3	13.8
1918-1919	Jul18	Aug18	Sep18	Oct18	Nov18	Dec18	Jan19	Feb19	Mar19	Apr19	May19	Jun19	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	T	T	14.2	19.6	1.8	6.5	3.4	0.8	0.0	0.0	46.3	-11.2
1917-1918	Jul17	Aug17	Sep17	Oct17	Nov17	Dec17	Jan18	Feb18	Mar18	Apr18	May18	Jun18	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	11.7	T	4.3	8.2	13.3	2.5	19.5	4.7	0.0	64.2	6.7
1916-1917	Jul16	Aug16	Sep16	Oct16	Nov16	Dec16	Jan17	Feb17	Mar17	Apr17	May17	Jun17	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	6.7	10.2	16.3	4.9	6.0	16.1	7.2	12.0	T	79.4	21.9
1915-1916	Jul15	Aug15	Sep15	Oct15	Nov15	Dec15	Jan16	Feb16	Mar16	Apr16	May16	Jun16	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	2.0	3.8	10.1	9.0	1.9	5.3	11.5	0.5	0.0	44.1	-13.4
1914-1915	Jul14	Aug14	Sep14	Oct14	Nov14	Dec14	Jan15	Feb15	Mar15	Apr15	May15	Jun15	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.8	2.9	9.7	4.6	14.0	5.6	T	6.4	0.0	44.0	-13.5
1913-1914	Jul13	Aug13	Sep13	Oct13	Nov13	Dec13	Jan14	Feb14	Mar14	Apr14	May14	Jun14	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	4.0	8.6	2.8	57.4	0.4	5.6	11.1	9.0	T	0.0	98.9	41.4
1912-1913	Jul12	Aug12	Sep12	Oct12	Nov13	Dec12	Jan13	Feb13	Mar13	Apr13	May13	Jun13	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	T	6.6	8.9	7.5	5.8	15.7	6.5	15.1	T	0.0	66.1	8.6
1911-1912	Jul11	Aug11	Sep11	Oct11	Nov11	Dec11	Jan12	Feb12	Mar12	Apr12	May12	Jun12	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	T	5.5	4.7	5.9	2.4	22.1	12.9	3.6	13.2	0.0	70.3	12.8
1910-1911	Jul10	Aug10	Sep10	Oct10	Nov10	Dec10	Jan11	Feb11	Mar11	Apr11	May11	Jun11	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.4	1.3	9.4	1.7	10.2	0.4	8.1	0.0	0.0	31.5	-26.0
1909-1910	Jul09	Aug09	Sep09	Oct09	Nov09	Dec09	Jan10	Feb10	Mar10	Apr10	May10	Jun10	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	T	13.5	11.7	2.3	7.2	2.8	T	6.3	0.0	43.8	-13.7
1908-1909	Jul08	Aug08	Sep08	Oct08	Nov08	Dec08	Jan09	Feb09	Mar09	Apr09	May09	Jun09	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	6.5	13.6	22.9	9.7	2.1	18.3	20.2	25.4	T	0.0	118.7	61.2
1907-1908	Jul07	Aug07	Sep07	Oct07	Nov77	Dec07	Jan08	Feb08	Mar08	Apr08	May08	Jun08	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	1.5	0.0	7.5	6.1	7.8	1.1	2.1	3.5	10.0	0.0	39.6	-17.9
1906-1907	Jul06	Aug06	Sep06	Oct06	Nov06	Dec06	Jan07	Feb07	Mar07	Apr07	May07	Jun07	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	22.7	13.0	T	8.3	2.3	5.3	25.0	9.0	0.0	85.6	27.9
1905-1906	Jul05	Aug05	Sep05	Oct05	Nov05	Dec05	Jan06	Feb06	Mar06	Apr06	Mar06	Jun06	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	13.8	T	T	4.8	1.1	23.9	10.6	T	0.0	54.2	-3.3
1904-1905	Jul04	Aug04	Sep04	Oct04	Nov04	Dec04	Jan05	Feb05	Mar05	Apr05	May05	Jun05	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	2.0	2.2	7.2	7.0	6.7	5.4	16.0	2.0	0.0	48.5	-9.0
1903-1904	Jul03	Aug03	Sep03	Oct03	Nov03	Dec03	Jan04	Feb04	Mar04	Apr04	May04	Jun04	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	T	4.4	1.5	5.0	1.1	2.5	10.3	2.4	0.0	0.0	27.2	-30.3
1902-1903	Jul02	Aug02	Sep02	Oct02	Nov02	Dec02	Jan03	Feb03	Mar03	Apr03	May03	Jun03	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	T	T	4.0	11.5	1.9	7.8	9.9	8.5	2.0	0.0	45.6	-11.9
1901-1902	Jul01	Aug01	Sep01	Oct01	Nov01	Dec01	Jan02	Feb02	Mar02	Apr02	May02	Jun02	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	2.0	T	10.3	2.8	6.1	5.0	6.1	0.0	0.0	32.3	-25.2
1900-1901	Jul00	Aug00	Sep00	Oct00	Nov00	Dec00	Jan01	Feb01	Mar01	Apr01	May01	Jun01	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	T	2.0	0.8	5.8	1.9	3.0	15.7	15.4	0.0	0.0	44.6	-12.9
1899-1900	Jul99	Aug99	Sep99	Oct99	Nov99	Dec99	Jan00	Feb00	Mar00	Apr00	May00	Jun00	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.8	T	10.9	1.9	10.8	5.5	19.6	0.0	0.0	49.5	-8.0
1898-1899	Jul98	Aug98	Sep98	Oct98	Nov98	Dec98	Jan99	Feb99	Mar99	Apr99	May99	Jun99	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	T	2.8	9.0	15.5	8.5	9.1	20.4	6.7	T	0.0	72.0	14.5
1897-1898	Jul97	Aug97	Sep97	Oct97	Nov97	Dec97	Jan98	Feb98	Mar98	Apr98	May98	Jun98	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	16.4	3.3	8.3	3.0	6.8	2.6	8.9	15.5	0.0	64.8	7.3
1896-1897	Jul96	Aug96	Sep96	Oct96	Nov96	Dec96	Jan97	Feb97	Mar97	Apr97	May97	Jun97	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	2.5	0.9	4.6	6.1	10.8	12.1	2.2	0.0	0.0	39.2	-18.3
1895-1896	Jul95	Aug95	Sep95	Oct95	Nov95	Dec95	Jan96	Feb96	Mar96	Apr96	Mar96	Jun96	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	11.4	2.2	3.8	0.7	3.8	4.5	19.9	0.5	1.5	0.0	48.3	-9.2
1894-1895	Jul94	Aug94	Sep94	Oct94	Nov94	Dec94	Jan95	Feb95	Mar95	Apr95	May95	Jun95	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	2.6	10.5	5.0	3.5	11.9	3.5	T	0.0	37.0	-20.5
1893-1894	Jul93	Aug93	Sep93	Oct93	Nov93	Dec93	Jan94	Feb94	Mar94	Apr94	May94	Jun94	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	5.8	6.6	4.5	2.4	11.9	10.0	10.7	0.0	0.0	51.9	-5.6
1892-1893	Jul92	Aug92	Sep92	Oct92	Nov92	Dec92	Jan93	Feb93	Mar93	Apr93	May93	Jun93	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.5	2.5	17.8	1.0	13.6	3.2	9.9	8.9	0.0	57.4	-0.1
1891-1892	Jul91	Aug91	Sep91	Oct91	Nov91	Dec91	Jan92	Feb92	Mar92	Apr92	May92	Jun92	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	T	8.5	17.5	4.5	8.7	6.7	6.4	T	0.0	52.3	-5.2
1890-1891	Jul90	Aug90	Sep90	Oct90	Nov90	Dec90	Jan91	Feb91	Mar91	Apr91	May91	Jun91	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	2.0	3.1	0.4	17.0	2.5	31.3	9.2	1.0	0.0	66.5	9.0
1889-1890	Jul89	Aug89	Sep89	Oct89	Nov89	Dec89	Jan90	Feb90	Mar90	Apr90	May90	Jun90	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	14.0	5.8	2.4	2.2	4.1	0.3	7.0	T	0.0	35.8	-21.7
1888-1889	Jul88	Aug88	Sep88	Oct88	Nov88	Dec88	Jan89	Feb89	Mar89	Apr89	Mar89	Jun89	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	3.0	0.8	5.5	8.4	3.6	T	T	0.0	21.3	-36.2
1887-1888	Jul87	Aug87	Sep87	Oct87	Nov87	Dec87	Jan88	Feb88	Mar88	Apr88	May88	Jun88	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	3.1	2.9	1.8	1.4	4.4	11.9	0.0	0.0	0.0	25.5	-32.0
1886-1887	Jul86	Aug86	Sep86	Oct86	Nov86	Dec86	Jan87	Feb87	Mar87	Apr87	May87	Jun87	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	9.8	10.8	6.5	3.5	1.1	T	0.0	0.0	31.7	-25.8
1885-1886	Jul85	Aug85	Sep85	Oct85	Nov85	Dec85	Jan86	Feb86	Mar86	Apr86	May86	Jun86	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.3	0.5	8.3	4.1	7.4	21.8	2.2	0.0	0.0	44.6	-12.9
1884-1885	Jul84	Aug84	Sep84	Oct84	Nov84	Dec84	Jan85	Feb85	Mar85	Apr85	May85	Jun85	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.3	T	7.4	4.7	7.0	0.5	32.0	T	0.0	51.9	-5.6
1883-1884	Jul83	Aug83	Sep83	Oct83	Nov83	Dec83	Jan84	Feb84	Mar84	Apr84	May84	Jun84	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	1.7	0.3	5.1	2.2	7.5	3.6	18.0	T	0.0	38.4	-19.1
1882-1883	Jul82	Aug82	Sep82	Oct82	Nov82	Dec82	Jan83	Feb83	Mar83	Apr83	May83	Jun83	Total	Departure
DENVER	0.0	0.0	0.0	T	6.6	6.8	20.5	4.5	0.3	11.1	T	0.0	49.8	-7.7
1881-1882	Jul81	Aug81	Sep81	Oct81	Nov81	Dec81	Jan82	Feb82	Mar82	Apr82	May82	Jun82	Total	Departure
DENVER	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	5.7	2.0	2.0	6.2	T	0.0	15.9	N/A

[snowfan789]

I think there’s some legitimate basis to be concerned about an overall trend towards dryness in at least the Southwest. Not sure if that includes places as far north as Denver. We’ll see, I guess. Less snowfall in the future seems nearly inevitable because of warming temps unless midwinter precip increases appreciably. And the last few years definitely have been rough in these parts. Historical Denver snowfall data is not great because stations have moved over time. Weather at DIA can be very different and often drier than points closer to the city, like the former reporting station at Stapleton.

[raindancewx]

I've looked at trends in the Southwest by month, generally for precipitation:

Jan/Aug - flat

May/June - drier

All others - wetter - especially July and December. March was incredibly wet 1998-2007, which is why I find it so bizarre that it has been so dry since, but the long-term trend is still up even in March.

Long-term trends for snow are actually up a bit for most sites in New Mexico, its just a bit warmer, so it tends to melt faster. Also, there is some emerging research that wind is eating a lot of the snow pack too, and that hurts probably more than temperatures. For instance 2016-17 was pretty warm, especially for lows, but also extremely wet, and the mountains did very well...until Spring when it just melted off fast. The ranges here were around 200% of normal at the end of January.

Red River, 8,600 feet above sea level has reliable, same site snow records for 1906-2014, and the trend in snowfall is up from around 125 inches to around 140 inches from what I remember. The Red River ski resort has a base in town and they've reported 133 inches through 2/26, the long term average (1906-2014, Sept-Jun) is around 135.

[snowfan789]

3 hours ago, raindancewx said:

I've looked at trends in the Southwest by month, generally for precipitation:

Jan/Aug - flat

May/June - drier

All others - wetter - especially July and December. March was incredibly wet 1998-2007, which is why I find it so bizarre that it has been so dry since, but the long-term trend is still up even in March.

Long-term trends for snow are actually up a bit for most sites in New Mexico, its just a bit warmer, so it tends to melt faster. Also, there is some emerging research that wind is eating a lot of the snow pack too, and that hurts probably more than temperatures. For instance 2016-17 was pretty warm, especially for lows, but also extremely wet, and the mountains did very well...until Spring when it just melted off fast. The ranges here were around 200% of normal at the end of January.

Red River, 8,600 feet above sea level has reliable, same site snow records for 1906-2014, and the trend in snowfall is up from around 125 inches to around 140 inches from what I remember. The Red River ski resort has a base in town and they've reported 133 inches through 2/26, the long term average (1906-2014, Sept-Jun) is around 135.

Thanks for sharing. But, still, there’s reason to worry about the State of the Snowpack. Here’s one example of why I say this (there are plenty): https://www.summitdaily.com/news/snowpack-has-declined-by-an-average-of-41-percent-in-the-rocky-mountains-over-past-3-decades/

[ValpoVike]

I don't see any actual data in this article. This editor's note at the end tends to make me a bit jaded as the article title suggests something very different:

Editor’s note: This article has been updated to reflect that researchers found the snowpack has declined by 41 percent over 13 percent of Western land area. The decline was not measured over the entire Rocky Mountain region.

[snowfan789]

Here’s more data: 

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/dismal-western-snowpack-is-a-climate-warning-sign/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.weather5280.com/blog/2017/11/29/perspective-on-colorados-snowpack-is-there-a-downward-trend/amp/

 

[ValpoVike]

1 hour ago, snowfan789 said:

Here’s more data: 

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/dismal-western-snowpack-is-a-climate-warning-sign/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.weather5280.com/blog/2017/11/29/perspective-on-colorados-snowpack-is-there-a-downward-trend/amp/

 

Ok, I agree but I am confused.  You started by stating that snowfall east of the rockies are experiencing lower snowfall, then you moved to the Southwest, and now you are in the mountain snowpacks.  I'm not a climate change denier, just trying to follow where you are going and the data to support.  I agree by the way with the snowpack, but broad brush generalities of snowfall deficits being anomalous I think need some discussion.  Climate change can equal higher snowfall in areas.

 

[snowfan789]

2 hours ago, ValpoVike said:

Ok, I agree but I am confused.  You started by stating that snowfall east of the rockies are experiencing lower snowfall, then you moved to the Southwest, and now you are in the mountain snowpacks.  I'm not a climate change denier, just trying to follow where you are going and the data to support.  I agree by the way with the snowpack, but broad brush generalities of snowfall deficits being anomalous I think need some discussion.  Climate change can equal higher snowfall in areas.

 

That’s not what I said. I said there’s some legitimate basis to be concerned about a trend towards dryness and bemoaned the dry past few winters just east of the Rockies. I cited to pretty thorough research showing that many parts of Southwest region are getting drier. That includes parts of CO.

[Chinook]

Snowfall even exceeded the 50" forecast near Grand Tetons N.P. with 19" to 35" measured in Yellowstone N.P.

[Chinook]

I am not sure what to do with this information. Every storm in Fort Collins and Loveland has resulted a low snowfall total since November 11th.  My place has gotten 9.3" since December 1st, which averages to 3.1" per month. The seasonal trend stinks. The Euro has 0.4" of QPF in the form of snow. With cold temperatures, that could be a 6-8" snow amount. Note: The Canadian shows 10.3" for me in 168 hours (Kuchera). The GEFS plumes have a mean QPF of 0.68" in Denver, and a mean of 0.92" in Greeley.

 

 

[raindancewx]

31 minutes ago, Chinook said:

I am not sure what to do with this information. Every storm in Fort Collins and Loveland has resulted a low snowfall total since November 11th.  My place has gotten 9.3" since December 1st, which averages to 3.1" per month. The seasonal trend stinks. The Euro has 0.4" of QPF in the form of snow. With cold temperatures, that could be a 6-8" snow amount. Note: The Canadian shows 10.3" for me in 168 hours (Kuchera). The GEFS plumes have a mean QPF of 0.68" in Denver, and a mean of 0.92" in Greeley.

 

 

It's March. Winter pattern doesn't mean much now. There was a massive drop in the SOI from 2/17 to 2/19: -29 to -43. I think it's the biggest drop from a starting point that low in at least five years. There should be some kind of huge storm somewhere in the US around 3/3, whether it ramps up in the West or the East is an open question. The March 1993 Superstorm had a 25 point drop 10 days ahead of it for comparison, so a 14 point fall is pretty big. All that said, I'd expect the trend on 12z to 18z run (shifting south) to continue. The people in the Northern Plains have been suffering their extreme cold for ages now, something has to come along to snap them back to normal - my guess is its a big powerful storm.

19 Feb 2019	1005.91	1010.25	-43.61	-7.84	0.10
18 Feb 2019	1006.97	1009.70	-35.88	-6.21	0.65
17 Feb 2019	1009.02	1010.50	-29.88	-4.72	1.12

[snowfan789]

The very fact that I am saying this probably will jinx things, but I’m (as always, cautiously) optimistic for March in the Front Range. The upcoming pattern pretty consistently depicted by the GFS could be the best one so far this winter season, in terms of widespread moisture. The monthly CFS forecast issued today also shows a cold and moist March. It seems to have done okay lately once it’s close to the month it is forecasting and today, of course, is the last day of February.

Now watch things start falling apart...

[mayjawintastawm]

15 hours ago, Chinook said:

I am not sure what to do with this information. Every storm in Fort Collins and Loveland has resulted a low snowfall total since November 11th.  My place has gotten 9.3" since December 1st, which averages to 3.1" per month. The seasonal trend stinks. The Euro has 0.4" of QPF in the form of snow. With cold temperatures, that could be a 6-8" snow amount. Note: The Canadian shows 10.3" for me in 168 hours (Kuchera). The GEFS plumes have a mean QPF of 0.68" in Denver, and a mean of 0.92" in Greeley.

 

I know what to do... go play in Durango for a few days. 

[raindancewx]

Pretty good pattern for California?

[Chinook]

I don't think I -want- low temperatures near zero on three consecutive days.

Quote

533 PM MST Thu Feb 28 2019

...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM FRIDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH
LATE SATURDAY NIGHT...

* WHAT...Heavy snow possible. Total snow accumulations of 4 to 8
  inches possible with up to 12 inches in the Northern Foothills.

* WHERE...The Northern Front Range Foothills, Fort Collins and
  Briggsdale.

* WHEN...From Friday afternoon through late Saturday night.

* ADDITIONAL DETAILS...Travel could be very difficult. The
  hazardous conditions could impact the evening commute. The
  cold wind chills as low as 20 below zero could cause frostbite
  on exposed skin in as little as 30 minutes.

 

[snowfan789]

3 hours ago, raindancewx said:

Pretty good pattern for California?

Good month for a lot of the West. In some cases, exceptionally good.

[Chinook]

My favorite NAM-3km run of all time. Many times the NAM-3km has lower snow values right here... due to some weird handling of the upslope vs downslope winds or something. But surprisingly, 11" is not out of the question.

 

[ValpoVike]

The GFS really nailed this one, at least locally.  By Tuesday it had the tongue of high accumulation across Larimer county. We'll see on Sunday,  but I think it may have had a good handle on total accumulation then as well.

[Chinook]

My place has about 3" and it should keep going for a while. Storm reports and radar show that the heaviest snow so far has been in Wyoming south of I-80 and in Larimer County and in Jackson County.

[Chinook]

Temperatures are getting very cold now. I had 4" on the grass in the mid-afternoon, and then it's not a lot deeper, but it has still been snowing. I think the Denver area should be seeing some better accumulations. Radar reflectivity looks better in the last hour. Airport visibility is down under 1 mile.

[raindancewx]

Happy March. Right on cue, the potential for rain today in Albuquerque turned into nothing. I still like this March as the first one to top 0.5 inches of precipitation (1932-2018 average) in the city since 2007, but we'll see. The transition into and out of MJO phase 3 can be a pretty good pattern for NM/CO for snow - that's coming up in a few days. 

October 2018 will probably look fairly similar to March 2019 for temps/precip adjusted for time of year when all is said and done given the MJO did the 1-2-3 thing 10/1-10/16, before going into the null phase, and 2/24-3/9 will be 1/2/3 before retiring into the null phase.

[Chinook]

Fort Collins-CSU reported 7.3" for the day (up to 7:00PM) and it is still snowing. I got a little less. I will measure the final total tomorrow morning. Snow was relatively light in the daytime and evening. I got 2" in 8 hours, approximately.

The most recent MONTH with more than 7.0" of snow at Fort Collins was February 2018. (13 months ago). The most recent DAY when Fort Collins got 6" or better was October 14th, 2018. The most recent 7" snowfall was January 4th-5th, 2017, over two years ago.

It is possible that we could have a record low maximum tomorrow (3/3).

[Chinook]

It looked like this. We got maybe about 6" and it compacted over time, and now we have 5" on the ground.

 

 

 

[Chinook]

plot of 24-hr low temperature (mesowest.utah.edu)