dilly84 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Something that isn't being discussed much is that many models are showing windchills of up to -30 in the wake of the storm. So throwing this up here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilly84 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 On 1/16/2019 at 8:57 PM, NTXYankee said: Yeah they had 4-8 but I got lazy with the typing Expand I'm cle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilly84 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Icon similar to 12z takes low to KY then redevelops in VA. Same ptype issues though where it brings thunderstorms which buckeye and I was talking about earlier not thinking that's correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vespasian70 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 18z GFS has the low move through southern KY and reforms in VA, still the same precip issues here. Normally a perfect track for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vespasian70 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 GFS/GEM against the Euro/Ukie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayPSU Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 On 1/16/2019 at 9:57 PM, vespasian70 said: 18z GFS has the low move through southern KY and reforms in VA, still the same precip issues here. Normally a perfect track for us. Expand The initial low goes all the way up to southern Indiana, which surges warm air in our area and we literally get no snow. Awful run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vespasian70 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 On 1/16/2019 at 10:03 PM, JayPSU said: The initial low goes all the way up to southern Indiana, which surges warm air in our area and we literally get no snow. Awful run. Expand At least ice wasn't an issue. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilly84 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 On 1/16/2019 at 10:03 PM, JayPSU said: The initial low goes all the way up to southern Indiana, which surges warm air in our area and we literally get no snow. Awful run. Expand Usually that track is perfect. Never gets further than that and goes east through southern ky. Should be perfect but isn't. I'm sticking with ptype issues from the models. Makes little sense to have cold air rushing in with a low in southeast ky and still raining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 On 1/16/2019 at 8:44 PM, vespasian70 said: Improved over the 12z run. Expand I wouldn't sweat the gfs. Looks like it's having issues where to put a surface low at he 72-78. Could actually be on its way to a ukie type solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted January 16, 2019 Author Share Posted January 16, 2019 On 1/16/2019 at 10:11 PM, buckeye said: I wouldn't sweat the gfs. Looks like it's having issues where to put a surface low at he 72-78. Could actually be on its way to a ukie type solution. Expand Man I hope you're right ..getting tired of getting screwed every which way.. it's time for us to finally get one.!!! If we don't finally get a big one this year this might be my last year making this thread.. because the older I get the more stressed out it makes me!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Check out the 500map on the 18z and, compare it to the 12z. Heights are actually lower on the 18z throughout the run. ....yet the,surface low is further north and warmer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vespasian70 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 On 1/16/2019 at 10:11 PM, buckeye said: I wouldn't sweat the gfs. Looks like it's having issues where to put a surface low at he 72-78. Could actually be on its way to a ukie type solution. Expand Yea, the fact that previous runs had the low riding up into PA and now show a sharp right turn indicates the model may be in the middle of course correcting. I'm not sweating the thermals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vespasian70 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 On 1/16/2019 at 10:15 PM, Steve said: Man I hope you're right ..getting tired of getting screwed every which way.. it's time for us to finally get one.!!! If we don't finally get a big one this year this might be my last year making this thread.. because the older I get the more stressed out it makes me!! Expand Steve, I'd rather have the Euro/UKMET on our side than the GFS/GEM. Heck, even the NAM is colder for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vespasian70 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 On 1/16/2019 at 10:15 PM, buckeye said: Check out the 500map on the 18z and, compare it to the 12z. Heights are actually lower on the 18z throughout the run. ....yet the,surface low is further north and warmer? Expand It's struggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 On 1/16/2019 at 9:23 PM, dilly84 said: Icon similar to 12z takes low to KY then redevelops in VA. Same ptype issues though where it brings thunderstorms which buckeye and I was talking about earlier not thinking that's correct. Expand It's actually below freezing at the surface. ICON doesn't plot mixed precip for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackstraw Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 On 1/16/2019 at 9:57 PM, vespasian70 said: 18z GFS has the low move through southern KY and reforms in VA, still the same precip issues here. Normally a perfect track for us. Expand That GFS run was like Snowfreak cranked the magnet to 11 then blew the power grid releasing the low to jump back east lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 On 1/16/2019 at 10:19 PM, vespasian70 said: It's struggling. Expand I think it's the timeframe when the low goes from n. ARK to southern IN that it gets screwy. Then suddenly it's over s. WV. Maybe that's posdible maybe this does go further NW, but there's no way that solution verifies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vespasian70 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 On 1/16/2019 at 10:24 PM, Jackstraw said: That GFS run was like Snowfreak cranked the magnet to 11 then blew the power grid releasing the low to jump back east lol. Expand Yea, an odd run. I think the main takeaway is the trend away from the low moving up into PA and that hard right turn. It's like the GFS has seen the latest Euro runs and is having second thoughts. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vespasian70 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 On 1/16/2019 at 10:25 PM, buckeye said: I think it's the timeframe when the low goes from n. ARK to southern IN that it gets screwy. Then suddenly it's over s. WV. Maybe that's posdible maybe this does go further NW, but there's no way that solution verifies. Expand Agreed. I think it will bodes well for future runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilly84 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 On 1/16/2019 at 10:31 PM, vespasian70 said: Agreed. I think it will bodes well for future runs. Expand Fv3 further north again. Let's get this thing sampled already. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayPSU Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 On 1/16/2019 at 11:13 PM, dilly84 said: Fv3 further north again. Let's get this thing sampled already. Lol Expand Well, if we’re going to have a model on our side, I’m glad it’s the Euro! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vespasian70 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Will the European models cave to the North American ones? Seems like the battle lines have been drawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayPSU Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 On 1/16/2019 at 11:17 PM, vespasian70 said: Will the European models cave to the North American ones? Seems like the battle lines have been drawn. Expand Well, we do have an American model in the NAM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vespasian70 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 On 1/16/2019 at 11:22 PM, JayPSU said: Well, we do have an American model in the NAM. Expand So, Euro/UKMET/ICON/NAM versus GFS/FV3/CMC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 On 1/16/2019 at 11:27 PM, vespasian70 said: So, Euro/UKMET/ICON/NAM versus GFS/FV3/CMC. Expand Someone over in the NE forum said when the icon and the jma agree, it's called the ww2 rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 So the 18z euro still looks really good. A little further north than the 12z but still would not have mixing issues in central Ohio. This tells me the 00z run should be pretty good. I have a stormvista subscription and I've been following the 06 and 18z euro runs. They've been pretty good indicators of how the next run is going to trend. For instance yesterday's 18z had the sudden southeast shift that occurred at 00z, and today's 06z still showed,the southeast solution. Both times successfully predicting the next trend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vespasian70 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 On 1/17/2019 at 12:16 AM, buckeye said: So the 18z euro still looks really good. A little further north than the 12z but still would not have mixing issues in central Ohio. This tells me the 00z run should be pretty good. I have a stormvista subscription and I've been following the 06 and 18z euro runs. They've been pretty good indicators of how the next run is going to trend. For instance yesterday's 18z had the sudden southeast shift that occurred at 00z, and today's 06z still showed,the southeast solution. Both times successfully predicting the next trend. Expand Eventually one of the two model camps is going to cave. I think that goofy 18z GFS run speaks for itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilly84 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 On 1/17/2019 at 12:16 AM, buckeye said: So the 18z euro still looks really good. A little further north than the 12z but still would not have mixing issues in central Ohio. This tells me the 00z run should be pretty good. I have a stormvista subscription and I've been following the 06 and 18z euro runs. They've been pretty good indicators of how the next run is going to trend. For instance yesterday's 18z had the sudden southeast shift that occurred at 00z, and today's 06z still showed,the southeast solution. Both times successfully predicting the next trend. Expand Ptype maps still showed mixing issues. And I'll be honest, it kind of worries me that many are showing it. While I like the position of the low, the fact they're showing mixing issues tells me they know something I dont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 On 1/17/2019 at 1:24 AM, dilly84 said: Ptype maps still showed mixing issues. And I'll be honest, it kind of worries me that many are showing it. While I like the position of the low, the fact they're showing mixing issues tells me they know something I dont. Expand We're not going to mix beyond maybe some nuisance embedded sleet if a low travels from ARK to WV with a fresh Arctic high pushing. I don't care what the soundings say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pondo1000 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 On 1/17/2019 at 12:16 AM, buckeye said: So the 18z euro still looks really good. A little further north than the 12z but still would not have mixing issues in central Ohio. This tells me the 00z run should be pretty good. I have a stormvista subscription and I've been following the 06 and 18z euro runs. They've been pretty good indicators of how the next run is going to trend. For instance yesterday's 18z had the sudden southeast shift that occurred at 00z, and today's 06z still showed,the southeast solution. Both times successfully predicting the next trend. Expand I had no idea there was a 6z & 18z euro run. When did this start? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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