Keelala Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Just now, the ghost of leroy said: Why did you put “world” in quotation marks as if it were a hoax or something? Or flat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SENC Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I'm finished.. just had to get the "above" off My chest.. thanks for listening.. Looking & searching for Fall.. and epic FALL FISHING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the ghost of leroy Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Just now, SENC said: I'm finished.. just had to get the "above" off My chest.. thanks for listening.. Looking & searching for Fall.. Take it easy man. You fought the good fight for your side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourseasons Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Just now, the ghost of leroy said: Yeah. Putting away the soapbox is opposite the spirit of a proper banter thread. *Hauls it out again* Given the MLB, it's appropriate last night's game ended on a review. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SENC Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 minute ago, the ghost of leroy said: Take it easy man. You fought the good fight for your side. LOL always.. Peace, roll up one & smoke it up for Me.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keelala Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Good. Let's have some actual banter with actual facts, shall we? My mom is visiting and I took her into town today so I wasn't able to watch this unfold as I would have liked. Lady working at an art gallery totally let me peek over her shoulder while she was looking at pictures of the damage. Looks pretty hellish in FL right now. I know there was some warning but it seems like this one snuck up on them... unlike Florence which we were watching for weeks. Lost of people didn't evacuate and the death toll is gonna climb over the next few days. Really need to stop rebuilding coastal communities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bricka1222 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, SENC said: LOL always.. Peace, roll up one & smoke it up for Me.. https://www.pscp.tv/TxStormChasers/1kvKpavqBYoGE SMOKE FASTER ITS GETTING AWAY In regards to storm banter, is this time of year considered "past peak" in terms of tourism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SENC Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Well seeing how it got "deleted" here your Magical eyewall shot, (I cannot verify), looks legit to me.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the ghost of leroy Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Storm2k superiority is now being asserted after our ****show this evening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted October 11, 2018 Author Share Posted October 11, 2018 Meh, I like the community that posts here. I also enjoy the discussions more. The ****show was extreme, yes, but not typical of most landfall threads here. Mods volunteer their time so I'm not going to criticize, but I do wish the meteorological thread had went into Storm Mode last night when it became clear that we were going to have a major landfall. Having said that, I enjoy not having to type a bloody damn disclaimer every time I want to analyze development, modeling or a forecast, or be careful about my opinion if is not in line with an official agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the ghost of leroy Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Windspeed said: Meh, I like the community that posts here. I also enjoy the discussions more. The ****show was extreme, yes, but not typical of most landfall threads here. Mods volunteer their time so I'm not going to criticize, but I do wish the meteorological thread had went into Storm Mode last night when it became clear that we were going to have a major landfall. Having said that, I enjoy not having to type a bloody damn disclaimer every time I want to analyze development, modeling or a forecast, or be careful about my sharing my opinion it is not in line with an official agency. I just hate that they have 139 pinned threads above the useful threads. The disclaimer is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, Windspeed said: Meh, I like the community that posts here. I also enjoy the discussions more. The ****show was extreme, yes, but not typical of most landfall threads here. Mods volunteer their time so I'm not going to criticize, but I do wish the meteorological thread had went into Storm Mode last night when it became clear that we were going to have a major landfall. Having said that, I enjoy not having to type a bloody damn disclaimer every time I want to analyze development, modeling or a forecast, or be careful about my sharing my opinion it is not in line with an official agency. Yeah I agree, I know some hate overmoderation, which I understand but there is a definite need for a few more mods to help out especially after the last 2 hurricanes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the ghost of leroy Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Stebo campaigning ITT like it’s 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, the ghost of leroy said: Stebo campaigning ITT like it’s 2013 Lol, I believe you suggested me during Florence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 9 minutes ago, Stebo said: Yeah I agree, I know some hate overmoderation, which I understand but there is a definite need for a few more mods to help out especially after the last 2 hurricanes. I did some clean up during Florence. Got some flack for my effort. Since I'm not being paid, this time I just watched. It turned into what I expected. Kind of funny once you decide not to care about it. I'd estimate it has been a cat 1 thread at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 The only map you will ever see with 919mb on the United States mainland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the ghost of leroy Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, Stebo said: Lol, I believe you suggested me during Florence Desperate times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, jburns said: I did some clean up during Florence. Got some flack for my effort. Since I'm not being paid, this time I just watched. It turned into what I expected. Kind of funny once you decide not to care about it. I'd estimate it has been a cat 1 thread at best. Whoever is giving mods flack needs to stop, because they are going to continue to lose red taggers who don't have patience for nonsense. It is a crock that someone is complaining about mods doing what needs to be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, the ghost of leroy said: Desperate times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Stebo said: Whoever is giving mods flack needs to stop, because they are going to continue to lose red taggers who don't have patience for nonsense. It is a crock that someone is complaining about mods doing what needs to be done. It goes with the territory. Doesn't bother me. I just decided to sit and enjoy the spectacle for once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the ghost of leroy Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 minute ago, jburns said: It goes with the territory. Doesn't bother me. I just decided to sit and enjoy the spectacle for once. Thanks for that. You da MVP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted October 11, 2018 Author Share Posted October 11, 2018 I've just thought it was always weird to have to remind everyone that you aren't an official source of information on a weather forum. I mean, I get it if you are making videos or posting media like Levi Cowan or Jeff Masters on your weather blog, regardless if you are a professional. But if a person uses a poster's forecast opinion on a weather forum over an official agency to make life or property decisions, regardless if the poster is a professional, well... what the hell are you doing? Weather forums are for professionals, enthusiasts and amateurs to discuss weather and science-related matters. But policing and forcing that is annoying and counterintuitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the ghost of leroy Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, Stebo said: Whoever is giving mods flack needs to stop, because they are going to continue to lose red taggers who don't have patience for nonsense. It is a crock that someone is complaining about mods doing what needs to be done. I gave him flack because he banned me for roasting NYC weenies who everyone later agreed were awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Just now, the ghost of leroy said: I gave him flack because he banned me for roasting NYC weenies who everyone later agreed were awful. Idk if that is what he is referencing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, the ghost of leroy said: I gave him flack because he banned me for roasting NYC weenies who everyone later agreed were awful. Since you brought it up, you still owe me the public apology you agreed to when I let you back. You remember. You ran to Randy and it was part of the negotiated settlement when he told me whatever I wanted to do he would be ok with it. If you can't bring yourself to honor the agreement that's fine. Just be careful to not give me another chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Smith Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 This discussion about the real wind speeds (on land) is pointless because (a) instruments failed before those might have been recorded at some locations, and (b) we have yet to see any documented evidence of actual wind speeds near Mexico Beach. There may be none available. Sometimes an assertion can be true for unexpected reasons too. If there's a 12-15 foot storm surge with waves added, the maximum winds will be dislocated higher by at least 12-15 feet. Look at the readings from any ocean buoy in a passing eyewall situation. They rarely get anywhere near the dropsonde measured wind speeds within 50 feet of the mean sea surface, partly because of the low exposure altitudes and partly because of the wave environment. It's hard to get a 145 mph wind between two 30' waves. This was no cat-2 but a sustained cat-3 will do considerable damage, a lot of the outcome depends on duration rather than peak gusts. I was living near a tornado path about thirty years ago and watched very brief gusts hit trees near my home that seemed to be EF-2 (like the tornado itself) but they only lasted a few seconds and the trees were not destroyed as they would have been if the gusts had continued for 2-3 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 20 minutes ago, Chinook said: The only map you will ever see with 919mb on the United States mainland Yes a 975 low hit the coast with a microscopic 919 contour south of LA. I think this settles the debate, it was a Category 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mempho Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Meh, I like the community that posts here. I also enjoy the discussions more. The ****show was extreme, yes, but not typical of most landfall threads here. Mods volunteer their time so I'm not going to criticize, but I do wish the meteorological thread had went into Storm Mode last night when it became clear that we were going to have a major landfall. Having said that, I enjoy not having to type a bloody damn disclaimer every time I want to analyze development, modeling or a forecast, or be careful about my opinion if is not in line with an official agency.Screw it- I enjoy the free speech - trolls notwithstanding.Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Smith Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Near the time of landfall there was a 35 mb pressure difference between the two reporting buoys at Panama City and Panama Beach, located maybe 10 miles apart. Tyndall AFB was reporting 924 mb when the station went off-line (with northeast winds gusting to 119 knots). If the usual ratio of RFQ to back side prevailed, Mexico Beach or some location a bit closer to Panama City possibly would have been 1.3 to 1.5 times that with the same pressure. (1.3 x 120 = 156 knots, about 175 mph right?). But I suspect the ratio may have been more like 1.1 in this storm due to unequal radar signatures indicating squallier conditions on the normally weaker side, so perhaps 132 knots instead. I don't think we will ever know except from secondary evidence and that will include damage that might have been partially due to wind and partially due to storm surge. In any case, the 918 mb pressure tells most of the story. Also that 119 knots may not have been the peak wind gust at Tyndall, although it occurred quite close to the maximum radar wind potential just as the eyewall was coming on shore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the ghost of leroy Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 12 minutes ago, jburns said: Since you brought it up, you still owe me the public apology you agreed to when I let you back. You remember. You ran to Randy and it was part of the negotiated settlement when he told me whatever I wanted to do he would be ok with it. If you can't bring yourself to honor the agreement that's fine. Just be careful to not give me another chance. I never agreed to a public apology and you can still diaf. And I have the reciepts to prove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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