Cary67 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 17 hours ago, weatherbo said: Haha! They're bold little boogers! Pound for pound, they're a formidable adversary... and talk about fast. I wouldn't want one nipping at my heels. Speaking of tenacious ever had any wolverine sightings in your area? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 5 hours ago, Cary67 said: Speaking of tenacious ever had any wolverine sightings in your area? Ive never seen one but I’ve heard of them being here... I know they’re few and far between, tho. I did hear they will hangout in trees for deer and even moose to pass, then Jump on their backs and cripple them with bites to the spine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis1729 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Bismarck, ND just had their 5th coldest DJF on record. Mean DJF temp was -0.4F. The only colder DJFs on record were 1978-79, 1935-36, 1886-87, 1874-75. Of course DJF 1935-36 was incredibly cold, with a mean temp of -11.4F. I'm guessing that Feb 2019 (mean temp -0.4F, departure of -18.5F from 1981-2010 normals) was the 2nd coldest Feb on record in Bismarck, behind Feb 1936. https://bismarcktribune.com/news/local/bismarck/bismarck-s-winter-coldest-in-a-generation/article_3838c9a9-0199-5853-86f4-f8815b21539a.html Edit: Amazingly enough, Williston ND had an even colder February 2019. Mean temp -4.5F, departure from normal -21.4F. Coldest day of the month was 2/8/2019, with a high/low of -9/-43, departure -41. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimillman Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Seems like it could be a prettt horrendous end to winter in this area. Bring on the warmth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cary67 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 5 hours ago, mimillman said: Seems like it could be a prettt horrendous end to winter in this area. Bring on the warmth. Everyone loves cold and no snow especially in March. Skilling mentioned pattern change mid month. By St. Patrick's Day winter's accum. snows could be done in our area. Then one month of no mans land called pseudo spring till real sustained warmth comes mid April like most every year around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis1729 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Duluth might end up with the 3rd longest stretch on record for consecutive days below freezing. Right now the streak is 52 days. Top 5 streaks are: 76 days in 1874-75 72 days in 1978-79 59 days in 1928-29 59 days in 1970-71 59 days in 1993-94 INL won’t get anywhere close to their record of 101 days in 1978-79...wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 I haven't been above freezing since Jan 5th and was only above freezing 10 days during the entire met winter. 9 hours ago, beavis1729 said: Duluth might end up with the 3rd longest stretch on record for consecutive days below freezing. Right now the streak is 52 days. Top 5 streaks are: 76 days in 1874-75 72 days in 1978-79 59 days in 1928-29 59 days in 1970-71 59 days in 1993-94 INL won’t get anywhere close to their record of 101 days in 1978-79...wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Getting to my least favorite time of the year. Just hate March and April. The seasonal affective disorder kicks in. Can’t wait for some sunshine and warmth soon. I need to move someplace warmer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis1729 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Wausau, WI obliterated their all-time monthly snowfall record. And, Rhinelander, WI beat their Feb snowfall record by 22"...and the record had stood for 82 years. Wausau All-time Snowiest Months on Record Rank Snowfall Month/Year 1. 54.3 Feb 2019 2. 37.6 Dec 2008 3. 36.2 Mar 1956 4. 35.5 Mar 1985 5T. 34.5 Apr 2018 5T. 34.5 Feb 1945 Rhinelander February Snowfall Records Rank Snowfall Year 1. 61.5 2019 2. 39.5 1937 3. 28.5 2012 4. 28.0 1940 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 14 hours ago, beavis1729 said: Wausau, WI obliterated their all-time monthly snowfall record. And, Rhinelander, WI beat their Feb snowfall record by 22"...and the record had stood for 82 years. Wausau All-time Snowiest Months on Record Rank Snowfall Month/Year 1. 54.3 Feb 2019 2. 37.6 Dec 2008 3. 36.2 Mar 1956 4. 35.5 Mar 1985 5T. 34.5 Apr 2018 5T. 34.5 Feb 1945 Rhinelander February Snowfall Records Rank Snowfall Year 1. 61.5 2019 2. 39.5 1937 3. 28.5 2012 4. 28.0 1940 That is a lot of snow for one month for a non-belt locale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluoronium Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Dropped to -2F here last night on a nearly bare ground. In March. No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeEffectOH Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 If you live in the Cleveland, OH area...there's a LOT to complain about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis1729 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 The snowfall and % of mean maps are nice, but completely miss the tenor of a given season. For example, you would think Milwaukee and Chicago were both in the same blah situation this winter...but my brother and his family live in the northern suburbs of Milwaukee, and they have had a decent stretch since January 10th or so (generally 3” or more of snow cover the entire time)...whereas Chicago has been pretty crappy. ORD had the November storm which melted in 3 days, and Milwaukee didn’t...which skews the numbers. Of course the numbers are what they are...but it tells a severely incomplete story. Are there any maps of season-to-date SDDs (snow depth days)? This is the cumulative total of adding each day’s snow depth in inches. Gives a much better picture of how the winter has been, because it depends on temperature, snowfall, retention, and consistency of winterlike conditions. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cary67 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 4 hours ago, Angrysummons said: The lower lakes didn't have a particularly great winter due to the late start. Obviously, a historically great winter like what was being touted was pure lollllllllllllllll The pattern was there for an epic winter in the lower lakes but the storm track was just a bit further NW during Feb.. Areas of MN,WI really crashed in. Had a good Jan. stretch so if Chicago even is on the receiving end of a couple of those Feb.systems would have been memorable. Imby still sitting at about 47" on the year. Sad thing is that pattern may not show itself again for awhile. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis1729 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 How is it possible for every single storm to take the exact same track for the past 5 weeks?? On top of that...even if the storm tracks west of you, shouldn't enough antecedent cold air remain in place so that the warm air rides above it...as opposed to just displacing it entirely at all levels? It's completely maddening and frustrating. One could even argue that we had a similar pattern as 1978-79 (the holy grail of winters in Chicago), but displaced about 100 miles north. The margin of error is so narrow here in the tropics, as Cary67 alluded to above. I am convinced that the unacceptably huge thaw after the arctic outbreak in late January was the death knell of winter in our area. It wiped out 12"+ of snow cover all at once. If that decent snowpack would have remained in place across most of the Midwest, it may have displaced the baroclinic zone/storm track a bit further south...and it could be an entirely different ballgame. I guess it's more understandable in March...but in DJF, you shouldn't have to worry about exactly where a storm tracks. If there is precip, it should be snow. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackstraw Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Since I had so much success with my first winter thread maybe I'll start one for this now lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheeselandSkies Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Sooooooo I was promised a pattern flip following this miserably frigid start to March. Now I'm hearing in the SE forum that it's supposed to stay cold the rest of the month? What devilment is this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted March 6, 2019 Author Share Posted March 6, 2019 59 minutes ago, CheeselandSkies said: Sooooooo I was promised a pattern flip following this miserably frigid start to March. Now I'm hearing in the SE forum that it's supposed to stay cold the rest of the month? What devilment is this? If you can suffer through March the CFS says the eastern half of the country will be an inferno and it's never wrong. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roardog Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 On 3/4/2019 at 1:01 PM, LakeEffectOH said: If you live in the Cleveland, OH area...there's a LOT to complain about! Looking at these maps you would never guess this was an El Nino winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfewUniversesBelowNormal Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 16 minutes ago, IWXwx said: If you can suffer through March the CFS says the eastern half of the country will be an inferno and it's never wrong. 2015 had a +PNA March 18-25 April started warm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeEffectOH Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 5 hours ago, roardog said: Looking at these maps you would never guess this was an El Nino winter. Yeah, this past February's 500mb anomalies say otherwise...Nasty -PNA there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 On multiple occasions--most recently yesterday--Detroit's afternoon daily climate summary showed snowfall and then the final daily climate summary reduced or eliminated the measurable snowfall. Does anyone know why this has occurred on multiple occasions this winter? Afternoon daily climate summary for March 6: 000 CDUS43 KDTX 062129 CLIDTW CLIMATE REPORT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DETROIT/PONTIAC MI 428 PM EST WED MAR 6 2019 ................................... ...THE DETROIT MI CLIMATE SUMMARY FOR MARCH 6 2019... VALID TODAY AS OF 0400 PM LOCAL TIME. CLIMATE NORMAL PERIOD 1981 TO 2010 CLIMATE RECORD PERIOD 1874 TO 2019 WEATHER ITEM OBSERVED TIME RECORD YEAR NORMAL DEPARTURE LAST VALUE (LST) VALUE VALUE FROM YEAR NORMAL .................................................................. TEMPERATURE (F) TODAY MAXIMUM 22 356 PM 67 2009 41 -19 44 1961 1951 MINIMUM 9 706 AM 0 2015 25 -16 31 AVERAGE 16 33 -17 38 PRECIPITATION (IN) TODAY T 0.73 1959 0.07 -0.07 0.10 MONTH TO DATE 0.02 0.43 -0.41 1.52 SINCE MAR 1 0.02 0.43 -0.41 1.52 SINCE JAN 1 4.10 4.41 -0.31 7.15 SNOWFALL (IN) TODAY 0.1 4.0 1999 0.3 -0.2 0.6 MONTH TO DATE 0.7 1.8 -1.1 5.6 SINCE MAR 1 0.7 1.8 -1.1 5.6 SINCE JUL 1 29.4 35.7 -6.3 58.3 SNOW DEPTH T Final daily climate summary: 000 CDUS43 KDTX 070545 CLIDTW CLIMATE REPORT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DETROIT/PONTIAC MI 1245 AM EST THU MAR 7 2019 ................................... ...THE DETROIT MI CLIMATE SUMMARY FOR MARCH 6 2019... CLIMATE NORMAL PERIOD 1981 TO 2010 CLIMATE RECORD PERIOD 1874 TO 2019 WEATHER ITEM OBSERVED TIME RECORD YEAR NORMAL DEPARTURE LAST VALUE (LST) VALUE VALUE FROM YEAR NORMAL .................................................................. TEMPERATURE (F) YESTERDAY MAXIMUM 22 455 PM 67 2009 41 -19 44 1961 1951 MINIMUM 9 706 AM 0 2015 25 -16 31 AVERAGE 16 33 -17 38 PRECIPITATION (IN) YESTERDAY T 0.73 1959 0.07 -0.07 0.10 MONTH TO DATE 0.02 0.43 -0.41 1.52 SINCE MAR 1 0.02 0.43 -0.41 1.52 SINCE JAN 1 4.10 4.41 -0.31 7.15 SNOWFALL (IN) YESTERDAY T 4.0 1999 0.3 -0.3 0.6 MONTH TO DATE 0.6 1.8 -1.2 5.6 SINCE MAR 1 0.6 1.8 -1.2 5.6 SINCE JUL 1 29.3 35.7 -6.4 58.3 SNOW DEPTH T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeEffectOH Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Well, CLE broke the 30" mark for the season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 On 3/5/2019 at 5:59 PM, beavis1729 said: How is it possible for every single storm to take the exact same track for the past 5 weeks?? On top of that...even if the storm tracks west of you, shouldn't enough antecedent cold air remain in place so that the warm air rides above it...as opposed to just displacing it entirely at all levels? It's completely maddening and frustrating. One could even argue that we had a similar pattern as 1978-79 (the holy grail of winters in Chicago), but displaced about 100 miles north. The margin of error is so narrow here in the tropics, as Cary67 alluded to above. I am convinced that the unacceptably huge thaw after the arctic outbreak in late January was the death knell of winter in our area. It wiped out 12"+ of snow cover all at once. If that decent snowpack would have remained in place across most of the Midwest, it may have displaced the baroclinic zone/storm track a bit further south...and it could be an entirely different ballgame. I guess it's more understandable in March...but in DJF, you shouldn't have to worry about exactly where a storm tracks. If there is precip, it should be snow. Not only that but the models have honed in on them far out. How many times have we had a storm show up day 7-10 and hold steady on the models? It is beyond maddening! Time for it to end! The lake has saved the day here but that is not saying much either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Pattern sucks. I call it the no man's land pattern, where you are too far north for severe and too far south for snow. Unfortunately it's not all that unusual at this time of year around here. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 23 hours ago, donsutherland1 said: On multiple occasions--most recently yesterday--Detroit's afternoon daily climate summary showed snowfall and then the final daily climate summary reduced or eliminated the measurable snowfall. Does anyone know why this has occurred on multiple occasions this winter? Afternoon daily climate summary for March 6: 000 CDUS43 KDTX 062129 CLIDTW CLIMATE REPORT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DETROIT/PONTIAC MI 428 PM EST WED MAR 6 2019 ................................... ...THE DETROIT MI CLIMATE SUMMARY FOR MARCH 6 2019... VALID TODAY AS OF 0400 PM LOCAL TIME. CLIMATE NORMAL PERIOD 1981 TO 2010 CLIMATE RECORD PERIOD 1874 TO 2019 WEATHER ITEM OBSERVED TIME RECORD YEAR NORMAL DEPARTURE LAST VALUE (LST) VALUE VALUE FROM YEAR NORMAL .................................................................. TEMPERATURE (F) TODAY MAXIMUM 22 356 PM 67 2009 41 -19 44 1961 1951 MINIMUM 9 706 AM 0 2015 25 -16 31 AVERAGE 16 33 -17 38 PRECIPITATION (IN) TODAY T 0.73 1959 0.07 -0.07 0.10 MONTH TO DATE 0.02 0.43 -0.41 1.52 SINCE MAR 1 0.02 0.43 -0.41 1.52 SINCE JAN 1 4.10 4.41 -0.31 7.15 SNOWFALL (IN) TODAY 0.1 4.0 1999 0.3 -0.2 0.6 MONTH TO DATE 0.7 1.8 -1.1 5.6 SINCE MAR 1 0.7 1.8 -1.1 5.6 SINCE JUL 1 29.4 35.7 -6.3 58.3 SNOW DEPTH T Final daily climate summary: 000 CDUS43 KDTX 070545 CLIDTW CLIMATE REPORT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DETROIT/PONTIAC MI 1245 AM EST THU MAR 7 2019 ................................... ...THE DETROIT MI CLIMATE SUMMARY FOR MARCH 6 2019... CLIMATE NORMAL PERIOD 1981 TO 2010 CLIMATE RECORD PERIOD 1874 TO 2019 WEATHER ITEM OBSERVED TIME RECORD YEAR NORMAL DEPARTURE LAST VALUE (LST) VALUE VALUE FROM YEAR NORMAL .................................................................. TEMPERATURE (F) YESTERDAY MAXIMUM 22 455 PM 67 2009 41 -19 44 1961 1951 MINIMUM 9 706 AM 0 2015 25 -16 31 AVERAGE 16 33 -17 38 PRECIPITATION (IN) YESTERDAY T 0.73 1959 0.07 -0.07 0.10 MONTH TO DATE 0.02 0.43 -0.41 1.52 SINCE MAR 1 0.02 0.43 -0.41 1.52 SINCE JAN 1 4.10 4.41 -0.31 7.15 SNOWFALL (IN) YESTERDAY T 4.0 1999 0.3 -0.3 0.6 MONTH TO DATE 0.6 1.8 -1.2 5.6 SINCE MAR 1 0.6 1.8 -1.2 5.6 SINCE JUL 1 29.3 35.7 -6.4 58.3 SNOW DEPTH T I have noticed this a few times Don lol and they usually correct it and if not I always call them to correct the error haha. What I think happens is that sometimes they mix up Detroit and their own office. I know at the end of the day they have a sheep where they keep track of the 6 hour obs for the 4 main climate sites. DTW (Detroit) DTX (White Lake) FNT (Flint) MBS (White Lake) I have seen on a few occasions where whoever is putting in the climbo at the end of the day will erroneously add up the DTW number for the DTX number or vice versa. If you look they have corrected the 3/6 climate back to 0.1". There has been a T in the 6 hour obs for days with the frequent flurries and snow showers so it was probably just carelessness in not seeing that an 0.1 fell overnight 3/6. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 hour ago, michsnowfreak said: I have noticed this a few times Don lol and they usually correct it and if not I always call them to correct the error haha. What I think happens is that sometimes they mix up Detroit and their own office. I know at the end of the day they have a sheep where they keep track of the 6 hour obs for the 4 main climate sites. DTW (Detroit) DTX (White Lake) FNT (Flint) MBS (White Lake) I have seen on a few occasions where whoever is putting in the climbo at the end of the day will erroneously add up the DTW number for the DTX number or vice versa. If you look they have corrected the 3/6 climate back to 0.1". There has been a T in the 6 hour obs for days with the frequent flurries and snow showers so it was probably just carelessness in not seeing that an 0.1 fell overnight 3/6. Thanks Josh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 The last 1" snowfall at ORD was back on February 18. It would be fairly unusual to not get another 1" snow after that date, but it's looking like a growing possibility. The last inch has occurred prior to February 18 less than 10 times, with the most recent occurrence happening in 2004. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoboy645 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Well I can definetly tell we have warmed up and are out of winter. This forum is a ghost town now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Geoboy645 said: Well I can definetly tell we have warmed up and are out of winter. This forum is a ghost town now. It is that dead zone between winter and severe season, kind of like October. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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