michsnowfreak Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 2 hours ago, mississaugasnow said: Recently drove down to Nashville and couldn't believe how far south Cincinnati felt. Weather wise Cincinnati has nothing in common with southern ontario/WNY/SE MI Which leads me to a question. When do you guys feel like you've entered the south? For me its Cincinnati, especially its Kentucky suburbs. Ive heard Cincinnati been referred to as the most southern northern city and the most northern southern city. I would agreed. I generally think of Ohio as the North and Kentucky as the South Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 3 hours ago, mississaugasnow said: Recently drove down to Nashville and couldn't believe how far south Cincinnati felt. Weather wise Cincinnati has nothing in common with southern ontario/WNY/SE MI Which leads me to a question. When do you guys feel like you've entered the south? For me its Cincinnati, especially its Kentucky suburbs. Ive heard Cincinnati been referred to as the most southern northern city and the most northern southern city. When I get about 20 miles south of here. I'm only partially joking. It's a different makeup politically and even the accent has some differences. Growing up and spending many years of my life in the Chicago metro area, I have a Chicago flavor in my voice. I would definitely say Kentucky is more like the South than not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Not really a complaint or banter.... but. https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2018/12/13/fox-2-detroits-starr-dead-co-worker-says/2298426002/ Fox 2 Detroit's Jessica Starr has died, station says Suicide. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 hour ago, michsnowfreak said: I would agreed. I generally think of Ohio as the North and Kentucky as the South Same. Once I cross the bridge into Kentucky, I'm in the south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 5 hours ago, Jonger said: Not really a complaint or banter.... but. https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2018/12/13/fox-2-detroits-starr-dead-co-worker-says/2298426002/ Fox 2 Detroit's Jessica Starr has died, station says Suicide. What a beautiful young woman. Very sad to imagine her suffering so bad inside that that’s seen as the only solution. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowless in Carrollton Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Most deep southerners (AL, MS, GA) would laugh at the idea of KY being considered the south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 hour ago, weatherbo said: What a beautiful young woman. Very sad to imagine someone suffering so bad inside that that’s seen as the only solution. I guess you just never know. She looked to have a lot going for her. A real meteorologist as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 3 hours ago, Jonger said: Not really a complaint or banter.... but. https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2018/12/13/fox-2-detroits-starr-dead-co-worker-says/2298426002/ Fox 2 Detroit's Jessica Starr has died, station says Suicide. They want to blame LASIK but I don’t know. Having researched it heavily myself years back and ultimately opting not to do it the vast majority of the suicides tend to occur years later when it’s apparent there is no hope the side effects will fade. This was well inside the 6 months recovery time. It sucks that it seems nobody around her knew something was wrong. Similar to my good friend who recently committed suicide. Only sign was one of those realizations after it happens. He was texting me way more than usual in the weeks proceeding it but I never thought much of it at the time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 7 hours ago, mississaugasnow said: Recently drove down to Nashville and couldn't believe how far south Cincinnati felt. Weather wise Cincinnati has nothing in common with southern ontario/WNY/SE MI Which leads me to a question. When do you guys feel like you've entered the south? For me its Cincinnati, especially its Kentucky suburbs. Ive heard Cincinnati been referred to as the most southern northern city and the most northern southern city. Cinci for sure, although there are parts of southern IN/OH which might as well be Kentucky, which I feel is definitely the south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 4 hours ago, Jonger said: Not really a complaint or banter.... but. https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2018/12/13/fox-2-detroits-starr-dead-co-worker-says/2298426002/ Fox 2 Detroit's Jessica Starr has died, station says Suicide. Very sad to read this earlier today especially this time of year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanksfan Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 hour ago, SnowGoose69 said: They want to blame LASIK but I don’t know. Having researched it heavily myself years back and ultimately opting not to do it the vast majority of the suicides tend to occur years later when it’s apparent there is no hope the side effects will fade. This was well inside the 6 months recovery time. It sucks that it seems nobody around her knew something was wrong. Similar to my good friend who recently committed suicide. Only sign was one of those realizations after it happens. He was texting me way more than usual in the weeks proceeding it but I never thought much of it at the time My wife has been fighting depression for years. Medication and therapy has helped some. Still there are good and bad days. So sorry for your loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 I cannot agree to WV being considered south, so that kinda forces me to have an issue with Kentucky, as well. True south begins, imo, with the Tennesse/NC borders. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 On 12/13/2018 at 7:29 PM, weatherbo said: I cannot agree to WV being considered south, so that kinda forces me to have an issue with Kentucky, as well. True south begins, imo, with the Tennesse/NC borders. WV is kind of in between IMO but there are definitely some south mixed in. Maybe S IN/OH KY/WV is the mixing zone. The 'sleet' area 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoboy645 Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 When I went down to the smoky mountains last march I defenitely noticed a difference once you crossed the Ohio at least by Paducah. The whole vibe was just different. It was the same way heading back up once we crossed the Ohio again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 14 hours ago, Stebo said: WV is kind of in between IMO but there are definitely some south mixed in. Maybe S IN/OH KY/WV is the mixing zone. The 'sleet' area from my experience it doesn't matter if it's Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, Pennsylvania, etc.... ....every state has a 'lil bit of "WV" somewhere in it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 19 hours ago, Stebo said: Very sad to read this earlier today especially this time of year. Agree. I rarely watch the news so im not familiar with her but apparently she was a well liked tv met in the area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchaumburgStormer Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 20 hours ago, Stebo said: Very sad to read this earlier today especially this time of year. Unfortunately, suicides tend to spike during this time of the years (holidays and seeing others "happy" exacerbates many problems). Can never spread this enough, reach out for help if you need it. National Suicide Prevention Hotline 1-800-273-8255 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted December 14, 2018 Author Share Posted December 14, 2018 Amos at IWX sums it up with today's long term discussion opening: REST OF THE FORECAST IS INCREDIBLY DULL January's gonna rock. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 1 hour ago, IWXwx said: Amos at IWX sums it up with today's long term discussion opening: REST OF THE FORECAST IS INCREDIBLY DULL January's gonna rock. That's what I love, brutally honest meteorologists 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frog Town Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Anyone else getting the feeling this "Cold" winter is going to turn into a 2 week cold period the last week of January and the first week of Feb?? This is starting to remind me of the cold chasing I did in the winter of '05-'06 and '12-'13. A little discouraged by the CPC's write up for the next 3-4 weeks. They seem to be thinking the opposite of everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Frog Town said: Anyone else getting the feeling this "Cold" winter is going to turn into a 2 week cold period the last week of January and the first week of Feb?? This is starting to remind me of the cold chasing I did in the winter of '05-'06 and '12-'13. A little discouraged by the CPC's write up for the next 3-4 weeks. They seem to be thinking the opposite of everyone else. No I am not getting that feeling, however I am getting a strong feeling that December will be the least wintry month of that NDJFM period. It hasnt even been a torch, it just has not wanted to snow like it did last month, and signs going forward are certainly better for Jan and Feb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 It's looking like another 2011-2012 might be in the works. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 7 minutes ago, Jonger said: It's looking like another 2011-2012 might be in the works. Not. even. Close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 21 minutes ago, Jonger said: It's looking like another 2011-2012 might be in the works. Give me March 12 again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 On a positive note... the heavily climate change biased CFS now has January below normal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 21 minutes ago, Stebo said: Give me March 12 again. It's one thing to wish for a warm March, especially with our delayed Springs lately. I certainly wont, but understand those who do. but why wish for agricultural disaster? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 21 minutes ago, Jonger said: On a positive note... the heavily climate change biased CFS now has January below normal. Warm periods are common in most winters, but its especially bad when they occur during what I consider the most delicate time of year for wx weenies. This is the time every year where people have doubts about Winter regardless of how good or bad the pattern is at the time. Absolutely nothing is pointing to 2011-12 with what has happened so far or what likely lurks in the future. As for the CFS? I don't even know what to call it because Winter temperatures have barely budged here and even if you account for a very slight warming there's no excuse for its constant torching. That's why I am definitely intrested in the colder look at has for both January and February. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, michsnowfreak said: It's one thing to wish for a warm March, especially with our delayed Springs lately. I certainly wont, but understand those who do. but why wish for agricultural disaster? Give me a warm april and may right after. Start spring March 1st 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mississaugasnow Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 17 minutes ago, Stebo said: Give me March 12 again. I still think that March 2012 was the biggest weather event Ive witnessed in my life. Trees were green and flowering shrubs and trees were in bloom by late March. At my cottage (Muskoka region of Ontario) when theres still normally 3 feet of snow and 20-30 inches of ice on the lake, there was no snow, all ice gone and spring peepers 6-8 weeks ahead of normal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mississaugasnow Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Stebo said: Give me a warm april and may right after. Start spring March 1st Personally I want winter storms and winter weather until about March 15th. After that I want the switch flipped to 60s and sunny immediately. Very unrealistic but ah well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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