Fall/Winter 2018-19 Complaint/Banter Thread

[Jackstraw]

3 hours ago, Stebo said:

It is that dead zone between winter and severe season, kind of like October.

Well hopefully we will have a Spring soon not this 45/25 crap then slam into the 80's.  In my 7 years back in Indiana that's the one thing I've noticed, Spring and Fall have been more and more non existent.  Almost more of a southern climo lately.

[Stebo]

29 minutes ago, Jackstraw said:

Well hopefully we will have a Spring soon not this 45/25 crap then slam into the 80's.  In my 7 years back in Indiana that's the one thing I've noticed, Spring and Fall have been more and more non existent.  Almost more of a southern climo lately.

Yeah we need a real spring for once.

[Chambana]

Been some miserable cold/wet springs since the infamous 2012 spring season. 

[Hoosier]

3 hours ago, Chambana said:

Been some miserable cold/wet springs since the infamous 2012 spring season. 

Would have to agree.  You can pick out some individual months that were really nice (like May 2018) but overall, it has been more junky than good.

[IWXwx]

 

1 hour ago, Hoosier said:

Would have to agree.  You can pick out some individual months that were really nice (like May 2018) but overall, it has been more junky than good.

Here's the recap for March, April and May for our subforum for 2012 and beyond. Other than the hell that was March 2013 and 2014, what really sticks out is going from winter in April to summer in May last year (Includes Minnesota, Michigan, Ohio, Wisconsin, Indiana, Illinois, Iowa, Kentucky and Missouri).

March:

        Temp     Norm      Dep             Prcp     Norm      Dep   %Norm
     2012     50.6     36.8     13.8             2.65     2.52     0.14     105
     2013     30.5     36.8     -6.3             2.45     2.52    -0.07      97
     2014     29.5     36.8     -7.2             1.51     2.52    -1.01      60
     2015     36.0     36.8     -0.8             2.13     2.52    -0.39      85
     2016     43.0     36.8      6.2             3.25     2.52     0.73     129
     2017     37.9     36.8      1.2             2.98     2.52     0.46     118
     2018     35.4     36.8     -1.4             2.64     2.52     0.12     105

 

April:

        Temp     Norm      Dep             Prcp     Norm      Dep   %Norm
     2012     50.8     49.0      1.9             2.81     3.33    -0.52      85
     2013     44.8     49.0     -4.1             5.29     3.33     1.96     159
     2014     47.4     49.0     -1.5             4.83     3.33     1.50     145
     2015     50.4     49.0      1.4             3.51     3.33     0.18     105
     2016     49.0     49.0      0.0             3.07     3.33    -0.26      92
     2017     52.4     49.0      3.4             5.04     3.33     1.71     151
     2018     40.8     49.0     -8.2             2.56     3.33    -0.77      77

May:

          Temp     Norm      Dep             Prcp     Norm      Dep   %Norm
     2012     64.2     59.4      4.8             3.72     4.21    -0.48      89
     2013     59.7     59.4      0.3             5.26     4.21     1.05     125
     2014     59.9     59.4      0.5             3.52     4.21    -0.68      84
     2015     60.9     59.4      1.5             4.88     4.21     0.68     116
     2016     59.3     59.4     -0.1             3.90     4.21    -0.31      93
     2017     58.4     59.4     -1.0             4.88     4.21     0.68     116
     2018     66.5     59.4      7.1             4.01     4.21    -0.19      95

[Hoosier]

On 3/11/2019 at 2:28 PM, Hoosier said:

The last 1" snowfall at ORD was back on February 18.  It would be fairly unusual to not get another 1" snow after that date, but it's looking like a growing possibility.  The last inch has occurred prior to February 18 less than 10 times, with the most recent occurrence happening in 2004.

I'd say very unlikely now that there will be another 1" snow. 

[iluvsnow]

Don't tell that to the digital snow monster AKA FV3 GFS....suppose the snow digitizer moves a hundred miles or so north.

[Chicago Storm]

3 hours ago, Hoosier said:

I'd say very unlikely now that there will be another 1" snow. 

I wouldn't say that until after this weekend.

[Hoosier]

1 hour ago, Chicago Storm said:

I wouldn't say that until after this weekend.

I'll admit my model watching has dropped off tremendously as of late.  Basically just quickly flipping through a run here and there.  I do see that weekend system.  NAM in particular is more bullish.

[michsnowfreak]

53 minutes ago, Hoosier said:

I'll admit my model watching has dropped off tremendously as of late.  Basically just quickly flipping through a run here and there.  I do see that weekend system.  NAM in particular is more bullish.

 My model watching absolutely tanks outside of the snow season.

[mimillman]

If you’re not in the northwestern part of Cook county, you officially have below average snowfall 

https://w2.weather.gov/climate/getclimate.php?wfo=lot

 

[Chicago WX]

1 hour ago, mimillman said:

If you’re not in the northwestern part of Cook county, you officially have below average snowfall 

https://w2.weather.gov/climate/getclimate.php?wfo=lot

 

Nope. Midway 3SW COOP 2018-19 season snowfall: 39.1"...1981-2010 normal season snowfall: 37.1".

[mimillman]

6 hours ago, Chicago WX said:

Nope. Midway 3SW COOP 2018-19 season snowfall: 39.1"...1981-2010 normal season snowfall: 37.1".

I didn’t see Midway, had pulled up Romeoville as a proxy here, which is under avg

[beavis1729]

On 2/16/2019 at 10:03 AM, Snowless in Carrollton said:

Are there ever 2 straight days of full sunshine in the winter ? Even the days that are forecast to be sunny usually end up being cloudy.

If you think it's cloudy where you live in east-central IN...compare that to Seattle...or even western MI, downwind of Lake Michigan.  Much cloudier climate in the cold season there.

Everything is relative.

From weatherspark.com:  % of days that are overcast or mostly cloudy:

              Richmond            Grand Rapids           Seattle

Nov:         50%                      56%                    68%

Dec:         58%                      65%                    71%

Jan:         60%                       68%                    71%

Feb:         58%                       64%                    68%

[michsnowfreak]

2 hours ago, beavis1729 said:

If you think it's cloudy where you live in east-central IN...compare that to Seattle...or even western MI, downwind of Lake Michigan.  Much cloudier climate in the cold season there.

Everything is relative.

From weatherspark.com:  % of days that are overcast or mostly cloudy:

              Richmond            Grand Rapids           Seattle

Nov:         50%                      56%                    68%

Dec:         58%                      65%                    71%

Jan:         60%                       68%                    71%

Feb:         58%                       64%                    68%

Do you have Detroit? I saw graphs but not raw numbers. 

[Powerball]

On 4/18/2019 at 3:22 PM, beavis1729 said:

If you think it's cloudy where you live in east-central IN...compare that to Seattle...or even western MI, downwind of Lake Michigan.  Much cloudier climate in the cold season there.

Everything is relative.

From weatherspark.com:  % of days that are overcast or mostly cloudy:

              Richmond            Grand Rapids           Seattle

Nov:         50%                      56%                    68%

Dec:         58%                      65%                    71%

Jan:         60%                       68%                    71%

Feb:         58%                       64%                    68%

But still, the eastern Great Lakes region (especially areas downwind of them) is right behind Seattle and Portland in terms of cloudiness. Everywhere else in the country sees much more sunshine.

I was just discussing on another forum how we've only seen one sub-70*F day since the first 3 days of April, and only 3 cloudy days (Snowless on Carrollton is originally from an area about 20 minutes from where I'm at, to give some perspective). The leaves have been in full bloom for about a week now and we've had several rounds of severe weather too (even a tornado about 7 miles away).

In Michigan, conversely, mother nature would NEV-AH, lol. Though the trade off is that we saw no measurable snow this past winter (not that I'm complaining).

[Jackstraw]

First trip shrooming this morning.  Think these chilly sub 50 nights are going to delay the season a bit around here.  Few and far between and itty bitty.  They are cashing in south of I-70 right now but there's been a good 10 degree temp differential between the south and north sides especially at night with these stalling fronts bisecting the state.  Strange thing though.  The ground cover seems as thick as it usually is around the first week of May but the bushes and trees are just starting to leave.  Normally have more leaf when the ground cover is this thick, May Apples are knee high already.  Measured soil temps in spots averaged around 48 to 52 degrees so still a bit cool.  Need some consistent 50- 60 degree evenings with these temps only in the high 60's  in daytime forecast for the next week.  

[NegativeEPO]

Our last decent Spring/Summer was all the way back in 2012. Pretty sad if you think about it.

[Chicago Storm]

Nice Spring we have ongoing here.

[fluoronium]

Found my first morel of the season yesterday, which is about a week later than normal for me. This has shifted later in recent years though.

It's hard to believe that I'm sitting within 1ºF of average this month as it feels like it's torching here compared to last year. Thunderstorms have been lacking, but there have been so many nice warm days that it's really hard to complain. To top it off that freak snowstorm last week ended up being an incredible event to witness. Normally I abhor the thought of snow in April, but the sheer intensity of the snow followed by such a dramatic warm up to the mid 70's two days later was something I have never seen before.