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Hurricane Florence Afternoon ECMWF Package Sunday 09SEP18

Key Points

  • Forward speed increased due to stronger ridge bringing Florence onshore just south of Wilmington NC around 1pm Thursday instead of 1AM Friday.

 

  • ECMWF take Florence further inland to Surry County and then rains out over NW NC and SW VA for 3 days.

 

  • Updated ECMWF Ensembles are forthcoming

 

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Hurricane Florence Afternoon ECMWF Package Sunday 09SEP18

 

 

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Hello everyone and thanks for all the great posts! I wish we were tracking a nice snow event rather than this hurricane.

For those that have not experienced this, take it seriously. I was in the decaying eye wall of Fran in central NC and it was the most chaotic weather conditions I have ever experienced. Got a tree on my roof. Its not a place you want to be unless you are well prepared with good shelter, food and alternative power generation.

Where ever that eye wall goes as it disintegrates will be trouble.

Good luck to everyone.

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1 minute ago, Jet Stream Rider said:

Hello everyone and thanks for all the great posts! I wish we were tracking a nice snow event rather than this hurricane.

For those that have not experienced this, take it seriously. I was in the decaying eye wall of Fran in central NC and it was the most chaotic weather conditions I have ever experienced. Got a tree on my roof. Its not a place you want to be unless you are well prepared with good shelter, food and alternative power generation.

Wherever that eye wall goes as it disintegrates will be trouble.

Good luck to everyone.

I resided on the beach @ landfall, took a trip to "sheep Island" during landfall, this one scares me..

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8 minutes ago, Jet Stream Rider said:

Hello everyone and thanks for all the great posts! I wish we were tracking a nice snow event rather than this hurricane.

For those that have not experienced this, take it seriously. I was in the decaying eye wall of Fran in central NC and it was the most chaotic weather conditions I have ever experienced. Got a tree on my roof. Its not a place you want to be unless you are well prepared with good shelter, food and alternative power generation.

Wherever that eye wall goes as it disintegrates will be trouble.

Good luck to everyone.

The thing with these tracks like this is the gradient between the strong ridge and the cane really beef up the NE side well away from the center.....the peak wind gust in Fran were 50-100 miles northeast of track...i went thru the same mess with Fran we gusted 100+ and we really were not expecting more than 50-60 due to the track being farther away. Then when you consider Fran was "only" 115 mph cane when she hit and this thing has the potential to be 125-140ish......ugh......then it stalls and rots...ugh again...its almost like it has to end up OTS because this is like the worst case scenario we always talk about happening one day....... and now it looks like that day is this Thursday and that cant really be happening cause this is what we always talk about but never believe will actually happen....

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Just to further echo Jet Stream Rider's post.

I was in Cary, NC for Fran (c1996) and without power for 5 days plus had three trees on my house.  This path, if to be believed, will rock not only the coastal plan but a great deal of the piedmont as well.  I would take the initial steps for preparedness starting no later than Monday.  It's projected landfall timetable has now raced ahead 12hrs.  With Fran I was already without power when the eye came ashore 120 miles away.

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4 minutes ago, CaryWx said:

Just to further echo Jet Stream Rider's post.

I was in Cary, NC for Fran (c1996) and without power for 5 days plus had three trees on my house.  This path, if to be believed, will rock not only the coastal plan but a great deal of the piedmont as well.  I would take the initial steps for preparedness starting no later than Monday.  It's projected landfall timetable has now raced ahead 12hrs.  With Fran I was already without power when the eye came ashore 120 miles away.

Yep this is the most often overlooked thing the center is just that the center, TS force winds will be 150-200 miles or more even from the center......by Wed night the beaches will already be pushing TS conditions....

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5 minutes ago, downeastnc said:

Yep this is the most often overlooked thing the center is just that the center, TS force winds will be 150-200 miles or more even from the center......by Wed night the beaches will already be pushing TS conditions....

Yes... going to be a little brisk for most of us in NC, if the Euro pans out.

 

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Target in Durham running low on water after stocking up this morning.  No one seems worried or stocking up there for the most part.  I would say 10% or less of the people there were buying stuff like there was a big storm coming...

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26 minutes ago, Solak said:

NWS RaleighVerified account @NWSRaleigh 12m12 minutes ago

The risk of prolonged extremely heavy rainfall with #Florence is increasing. Remember that flooding is a major cause of inland deaths with tropical cyclones. Get prepared now for the potential for torrential rains! #ncwxDmrOhm7XgAAJsFN.jpg

That is more than likely way underdone !

 

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2 minutes ago, ander420 said:

Not the sharpest at interpreting all of this, but can follow the general trends and realize there is considerable uncertainty.  If you had to spitball based on what we know now, what do you see for the Triangle?

50-100mph wind gusts and 10-30” of rain, as it looks now! Subject to change

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42 minutes ago, downeastnc said:

The thing with these tracks like this is the gradient between the strong ridge and the cane really beef up the NE side well away from the center.....the peak wind gust in Fran were 50-100 miles northeast of track...i went thru the same mess with Fran we gusted 100+ and we really were not expecting more than 50-60 due to the track being farther away. Then when you consider Fran was "only" 115 mph cane when she hit and this thing has the potential to be 125-140ish......ugh......then it stalls and rots...ugh again...its almost like it has to end up OTS because this is like the worst case scenario we always talk about happening one day....... and now it looks like that day is this Thursday and that cant really be happening cause this is what we always talk about but never believe will actually happen....

windgust.19960906.gif.2507170be432b0fb0ed0f082b846be06.gif

 

This map isn't entirely accurate as the strongest wind gusts were measured at Figure Eight Island at 122 mph.  That's what was actually measured.  The above map only has 90 mph there. Wilmington ASOS gusted to 86 mph.  Winds obviously gusted much higher on the New Hanover county beaches, but less than 90 mph according to that map? Ridiculous!

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1 minute ago, ncforecaster89 said:

This map isn't entirely accurate as the strongest wind gusts were measured at Figure Eight Island at 122 mph.  That's what was actually measured.  The above map only has 90 mph there. Wilmington ASOS gusted to 86 mph.  Winds obviously gusted much higher on the New Hanover county beaches, but less than 90 mph according to that map? Ridiculous!

yeah I meant inland more so than the coast as places all over the Cape Fear region gusted over 110-120 in Fran.....there was a few 130+ on some weather stations down there and even a 140 something as well I think right? I know they are not counted in the official gust.....

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Possibly getting to 150mph???

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT  09/2100Z 24.4N  57.0W   75 KT  85 MPH
 12H  10/0600Z 24.6N  58.3W   90 KT 105 MPH
 24H  10/1800Z 25.1N  60.4W  105 KT 120 MPH
 36H  11/0600Z 25.9N  63.1W  115 KT 130 MPH
 48H  11/1800Z 27.0N  66.2W  125 KT 145 MPH
 72H  12/1800Z 30.3N  72.6W  130 KT 150 MPH
 96H  13/1800Z 33.5N  77.5W  120 KT 140 MPH
120H  14/1800Z 35.0N  79.0W   60 KT  70 MPH...INLAND
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13 minutes ago, Solak said:

Possibly getting to 150mph???


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT  09/2100Z 24.4N  57.0W   75 KT  85 MPH
 12H  10/0600Z 24.6N  58.3W   90 KT 105 MPH
 24H  10/1800Z 25.1N  60.4W  105 KT 120 MPH
 36H  11/0600Z 25.9N  63.1W  115 KT 130 MPH
 48H  11/1800Z 27.0N  66.2W  125 KT 145 MPH
 72H  12/1800Z 30.3N  72.6W  130 KT 150 MPH
 96H  13/1800Z 33.5N  77.5W  120 KT 140 MPH
120H  14/1800Z 35.0N  79.0W   60 KT  70 MPH...INLAND

That 140 is practically onshore thats rough right there.....we are talking Hugo/Andrew/Charley type territory there.....seriously rare company. 

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