RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 what a cave by the gfs, big shift sw. #shocked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted September 11, 2018 Author Share Posted September 11, 2018 6 hours ago, Spaizzo said: If you’re looking for close to OBX Elizabeth City is just inland closer to the Northern Banks, has access to the banks and it’s one of the few areas with hotels. It still might be too close to the getting stuck part tho as that whole stretch tends to be flood prone. OBX is already experiencing some over washing in parts at high tide. They tend to flood after a good hard rain in many parts due to horrid drainage. Their ground is saturated from some heavier than normal rains the last 2 months. This isn’t looking good for them if the track remains. It’s an impressive area for hurricane or storm coverage. The sound side tends to get the water “sucked” out to where it’s near puddles and then it rushes back in. Be safe!!! Good spot. I know that area well. Aunt lives there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: what a cave by the gfs, big shift sw. #shocked Probably not a good track for Wilmington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Cape Fear is ground zero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxeyeNH Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Much worse track on the new GFS. Not much population on the Outer Banks. Bringing Flo so much further SW bring the Wilmington area into the eyewall. 117,000 population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 54 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: what a cave by the gfs, big shift sw. #shocked AWT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 37 minutes ago, dendrite said: AWT Sbos at the store buying everyone a case of beers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 47 minutes ago, dendrite said: AWT Here's why https://twitter.com/pppapin/status/1039404118052237312?s=19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Here's why https://twitter.com/pppapin/status/1039404118052237312?s=19 Chris posted that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JC-CT Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Damage In Tolland said: Cape Fear is ground zero My parents have a condo in Bolivia NC. Glad I told them to evacuate 2 days ago. Euro locked in, the GFS always does this. All the upgrades the ECMWF has been making that "make it worse" for winter weenies have actually been made in order to improve forecasting in the tropics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted September 11, 2018 Author Share Posted September 11, 2018 57 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: Sbos at the store buying everyone a case of beers. I'll make sure first stop is Garth's mom's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted September 11, 2018 Author Share Posted September 11, 2018 Aunt lived in Elizabeth City for years. She is now in Ormond Beach FL permanently. She has two kids. One in Cary NC, SW of Raleigh. Another is in Greenville. The kid in Cary is riding out the storm in her third story apartment. Wind won't be as much of a worry there. Flooding will be. But it's a populated area. Not sure what the better option would be. The kid in Greenville has to evacuate. It's definitely going to be bad in that area for wind in addition to rain. I suggested Richmond. The idiot father is bringing them west to the Appalachians were rainfall totals may be enhanced. I tried to explain but my family doesn't understand. I hope they are heading really far west into those mountains... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 LOL @ that Euro run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 1 hour ago, sbos_wx said: I'll make sure first stop is Garth's mom's She's a vodka woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 There is historical precedent for major hurricanes not landfalling N of the Gulf Coast/Florida region and I can't help but feel with the indicated stall that this might LF as no more than a Cat 2. That is not to say it won't be quite destructive and really suck for those in it's path. I just feel like if we get the weakening and then rainfall amounts aren't as robust as currently modeled, you will get the inevitable disappointed weenies in the Tropical thread who were calling for apocalypse. Ray should make a fraud 5 list for tropical systems. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whineminster Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 1 hour ago, HIPPYVALLEY said: There is historical precedent for major hurricanes not landfalling N of the Gulf Coast/Florida region and I can't help but feel with the indicated stall that this might LF as no more than a Cat 2. That is not to say it won't be quite destructive and really suck for those in it's path. I just feel like if we get the weakening and then rainfall amounts aren't as robust as currently modeled, you will get the inevitable disappointed weenies in the Tropical thread who were calling for apocalypse. Ray should make a fraud 5 list for tropical systems. lol. yeah the storms that come ashore N of FL area are really never anything too crazy like a Haiyan or Maria. Ya lots of rain and some moderate storm surge, but i don't think this will be like Harvey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 34 minutes ago, Whineminster said: yeah the storms that come ashore N of FL area are really never anything too crazy like a Haiyan or Maria. Ya lots of rain and some moderate storm surge, but i don't think this will be like Harvey. Well to be fair most of Harvey’s damage was rainfall. Houston which suffered the brunt is about 50 miles inland. The current prog suggests a rainfall catastrophe is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, weathafella said: Well to be fair most of Harvey’s damage was rainfall. Houston which suffered the brunt is about 50 miles inland. The current prog suggests a rainfall catastrophe is possible. Add this in Jerry, whinemeister needs to understand. Storm surge from a long lasting Cat 4/5 is unreal, see Katrina, winds won't matter for that anyways. I.K.E. (kinetic energy) is well above Hurricane IKE but below Katrina but expect catastrophic surge. Heck in Hurricane Hazel a fast moving 4, surge was 15 feet and even 10-11 feet in Myrtle Beach well south of LF. Peeps need to stop and think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Fin Ryan getting on a Hunter plane at 5am https://twitter.com/BradLuckNBC/status/1039629261257224198 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 If anyone is interested Matt Lanza put together a list comprised of meteorologists, storm chasers etc. to be able to track Florence on Twitter. https://twitter.com/mattlanza/lists/florence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted September 11, 2018 Author Share Posted September 11, 2018 There is an undeniable model consensus of Harvey rainfall enhanced by terrain here. The track and strength is anomalous, doesn't mean it's not happening. It's a freakin' major hurricane stalling over the gulf stream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wxeyeNH Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 The 18Z GFS and the 12Z Euro are in very close agreement now. Approach to NC just north of Wilmington. Stall then SW movement near or just off the coast. Then the 2nd landfall down in Southern/Central SC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 40 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Add this in Jerry, whinemeister needs to understand. Storm surge from a long lasting Cat 4/5 is unreal, see Katrina, winds won't matter for that anyways. I.K.E. (kinetic energy) is well above Hurricane IKE but below Katrina but expect catastrophic surge. Heck in Hurricane Hazel a fast moving 4, surge was 15 feet and even 10-11 feet in Myrtle Beach well south of LF. Peeps need to stop and think There have been plenty of bad tropical systems in NC over the years bit I guess since the past few years have been quiet some think it rarer than it is. We should remind everyone that by the time Katrina made landfall it was cat 1/2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Storm surge and flooding are always the greatest threat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxeyeNH Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, weathafella said: There have been plenty of bad tropical systems in NC over the years bit I guess since the past few years have been quiet some think it rarer than it is. We should remind everyone that by the time Katrina made landfall it was cat 1/2. A very good friend of mine, her husband and 2 dogs moved to Mrytle Beach last year. About 3 or 4 miles inland. New modest home. No trees. They bought a generator last winter when they got an inch or snow and lost power. They have plenty of gas for it. They are asking me for advice. Do they travel hundreds of miles trying to find a hotel or ride it out? She knows Im a weather geek and asked me to call this eve after looking at the latest models. My thinking is that if the eyewall comes ashore or partially ashore 50 miles north in the Wilmington area they would at okay at first. West offshore wind. By the time the storm drifts SW it would be downgraded somewhat. So they would definitely loose power but be okay that far inland from major structural damage. A new home built to code could handle 80-85mph gusts. If I had a new home that far inland I would hesitate to just pack up and leave not knowing when I could return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 1 hour ago, weathafella said: There have been plenty of bad tropical systems in NC over the years bit I guess since the past few years have been quiet some think it rarer than it is. We should remind everyone that by the time Katrina made landfall it was cat 1/2. There is no denying that the Carolinas have experienced some bad Tropical systems. My original post that, whineminster responded to, was referring to the fact that historical precedent indicates anything N of Fl or the Gulf Coast is unlikely to landfall above Cat 2. Maybe Florence becomes the anomaly to that but we wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 1 hour ago, wxeyeNH said: A very good friend of mine, her husband and 2 dogs moved to Mrytle Beach last year. About 3 or 4 miles inland. New modest home. No trees. They bought a generator last winter when they got an inch or snow and lost power. They have plenty of gas for it. They are asking me for advice. Do they travel hundreds of miles trying to find a hotel or ride it out? She knows Im a weather geek and asked me to call this eve after looking at the latest models. My thinking is that if the eyewall comes ashore or partially ashore 50 miles north in the Wilmington area they would at okay at first. West offshore wind. By the time the storm drifts SW it would be downgraded somewhat. So they would definitely loose power but be okay that far inland from major structural damage. A new home built to code could handle 80-85mph gusts. If I had a new home that far inland I would hesitate to just pack up and leave not knowing when I could return. What elevation? What roads flood out, can they self survive for a week? Those are questions I would think about that close to the shore and in SC which receives all of NCs runoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#NoPoles Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Where can i find a good storm surge simulation? I have friends evacuating emerald isle, nc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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