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SNE Tropical Weather Discussion - Hurricanes


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4 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

The mean will never do well with the intensity. So toss that with regards to strength. The key is to see what the members are doing. Looked to me that a good amount of members are posing a SE US threat.

Alot more are hits at 0z compared to 12z.

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9 minutes ago, weatherwiz said:

When do we not see some models show any tropical system in the Atlantic not hit SNE or the EC in the 7-10 day range? Seems like it happens every time. 

 

No doubt, but a lot of times they do that when the pattern does not support an EC hit. The building ridging depicted makes this case a bit more plausible, provided Flo doesn't slink off through a weakness.

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1 hour ago, CoastalWx said:

The mean will never do well with the intensity. So toss that with regards to strength. The key is to see what the members are doing. Looked to me that a good amount of members are posing a SE US threat.

There were several trapped under the ridge on yesterday's 12z but it went up a lot on the 00z run last night. Pretty big ensemble shift but that's why you don't make definitive forecasts for a storm 8 to 10 days out. I haven't seen much if any runs with a favorable northeast landfall synoptic look with a Midwest trough. But that could change. 

 

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2 minutes ago, Hoth said:

No doubt, but a lot of times they do that when the pattern does not support an EC hit. The building ridging depicted makes this case a bit more plausible, provided Flo doesn't slink off through a weakness.

I think Scott had mentioned this but models don’t seem to handle Atlantic rushing too well and often times overplay it...especially in the 6-10 day range. We’ve seen that happen so many times. 

Plus...there is a ton of dry air lurking around the Atlantic and probably going to see dry air off the coast after the FROPA. Shear may not be all that favorable...on a large scale either 

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3 minutes ago, ineedsnow said:

GFS canadaian and icon all take it close to SNE at 12z but still offshore

Its historically and climatologically favored to do so.  Need to see some type of deepening trough to the west and a blocking ridge to the east with a strong S flow that slingshots the storm up the coast.  Many times the storms recurve around the ridge and/or or get pushed out to sea by the westerlies.  Seems like the Carolinas could be more favored if the ridge remains strong and in place longer but who really knows at this point.  

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