Sophisticated Skeptic Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 and on a clear day.. surely some shill here will still use technical terms to deem this as normal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deA__hcKG80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice-Regent Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Entirely normal......carry on nothing to see here. Chinook winds - Insane climate edition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinook_wind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raindancewx Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 I've been saying for close to two years now, if you look at the AMO, PDO, ENSO, Solar, Modoki structure, active volcanoes, and unusual placement of weather...it looks like the early Dustbowl years. The warm Nino 1.2 cold Nino 3.4 in 2016-17 happened in 1931-32, with similar background conditions, after a big El Nino in 1930-31 with similar weather to 2015-16, both of which were after weak El Nino / warm Neutrals with similar solar activity and so on. Conceptually the background oceanic signals repeat in 30/60/120 year intervals, with a strong signal at 60 years in particular, but solar activity was higher in the 1950s, but very low in the early 1930s, 90 years ago. The one aspect of the Dustbowl that I hope we avoid would be the complete lack of El Ninos between 1930-31 and 1939-40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfewUniversesBelowNormal Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 It's not that far away, though. The 1990s and 1980s had a slightly different pattern but you really have to go to the 1960s to be substantially different. The biggest difference I think is the Tropical Atlantic ridge. Check out the Kocin/northeast snowstorms book. There was a big pattern change around 2013 I think. Or maybe 2007-2009. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantom X Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 that's basically a dust devil, without the dust.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csnavywx Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 On 6/15/2018 at 11:15 AM, Sophisticated Skeptic said: and on a clear day.. surely some shill here will still use technical terms to deem this as normal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deA__hcKG80 Well, this "shill" thinks the "technical term" you're looking for is a dust devil. It's pretty clear that there wasn't much dust to pick up in this case, however. Soil moisture obviously isn't suffering with all that greenery around. It's otherwise an ideal environment for it. Dry air, clear skies and a very deep mixing layer. The extremely high bases on the fair weather cu (probably 7+ kft to this observer's eye) are a clue to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophisticated Skeptic Posted June 19, 2018 Author Share Posted June 19, 2018 On 6/17/2018 at 1:25 PM, csnavywx said: Well, this "shill" thinks the "technical term" you're looking for is a dust devil. It's pretty clear that there wasn't much dust to pick up in this case, however. Soil moisture obviously isn't suffering with all that greenery around. It's otherwise an ideal environment for it. Dry air, clear skies and a very deep mixing layer. The extremely high bases on the fair weather cu (probably 7+ kft to this observer's eye) are a clue to that. explain this one as well then, smarty pants. 9" of rain today so far in Jim Wells, TX. (alice airport) and it's not even afternoon yet. just another day at the beach...with 2 more days of downpours expected there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarloaf1989 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 This crap again. I blame extra terrestrials secretly warming the planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poimen Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Why does this guy still have posting privileges? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice-Regent Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 56 minutes ago, Poimen said: Why does this guy still have posting privileges? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Isn't "normal" weather the average of abnormal weather? (Of course, the "normal" temps and heavy precip events have been moving upward in recent decades.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 14 minutes ago, tamarack said: Isn't "normal" weather the average of abnormal weather? (Of course, the "normal" temps and heavy precip events have been moving upward in recent decades.) Yes. On top of that, in the information age, we can easily find weather records being set somewhere on any given day or month. This can cause a lot of anecdotes being presented that may not align with empirical data. As you mentioned, the two weather extremes that have seen most notable increases in recent years are higher temperatures and heavy precip events....though the precip changes have been more regional than global....they have been especially notable for the eastern half of the U.S. One should note though that the most robust piece of literature on the topic started its study in the late 1950s....of which that first 10 years from the starting point was an unusually dry period in the eastern U.S. (and U.S. as a whole), which will enhance the trendline. But even if you went back further into the late 19th century, the increase is still significant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice-Regent Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 It's the extremes beyond the range of previous extremes (also referred to as standard deviations from the normal). Stop making excuses. This is not an emotional quest to make everyone feel better about our situation. It seems like the vast majority of individuals don't care about their posterity much less any other non-human species. They should knowingly tread lightly because nature will come along and clean house (with the worst of intentions). Hell comes to breakfast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice-Regent Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Found this on reddit... [–]ttystikk 2 points 6 hours ago Ships used to add sulphur to the atmosphere but recent standards are forcing them to stop. The downside to sulphur emissions is acid rain, so everything has its cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantom X Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 On 6/21/2018 at 12:36 PM, ORH_wxman said: Yes. On top of that, in the information age, we can easily find weather records being set somewhere on any given day or month. This can cause a lot of anecdotes being presented that may not align with empirical data. As you mentioned, the two weather extremes that have seen most notable increases in recent years are higher temperatures and heavy precip events....though the precip changes have been more regional than global....they have been especially notable for the eastern half of the U.S. One should note though that the most robust piece of literature on the topic started its study in the late 1950s....of which that first 10 years from the starting point was an unusually dry period in the eastern U.S. (and U.S. as a whole), which will enhance the trendline. But even if you went back further into the late 19th century, the increase is still significant. not to mention that everyone has smart phones these days and events like this can be captured easily by anyone now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SN_Lover Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 On 6/19/2018 at 3:00 PM, Poimen said: Why does this guy still have posting privileges? These new threads qualities have greatly degenerated due to various conspiracy theory posters. This is a great site, and would be sad to see it being ruined by a few conspiracy theorists. @Wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophisticated Skeptic Posted July 2, 2018 Author Share Posted July 2, 2018 On 6/30/2018 at 6:25 PM, SN_Lover said: These new threads qualities have greatly degenerated due to various conspiracy theory posters. This is a great site, and would be sad to see it being ruined by a few conspiracy theorists. @Wow Democrats / Liberals in 2018 : Anything Truthful is now considered conspiracy theory. Fake news media is loving how stupefied our population is becoming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SN_Lover Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Sophisticated Skeptic said: Democrats / Liberals in 2018 : Anything Truthful is now considered conspiracy theory. Fake news media is loving how stupefied our population is becoming. Political affiliation has nothing to do with intelligence. I'm sorry you are too short sighted to see the difference or have any meteorological knowledge and probably get your "knowledge" from Alex Jones and his fake doctor accomplice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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