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5 hours ago, JerseyWx said:

Same exact time we went last year, probably saw you lol.  The weather was pretty bad, except for the night we got down there and the day we were leaving.

This time around we're still sticking with the last week of July, as that's our typical time.  As for predictions, it's a little far out to accurately forecast the weather.  But, like Stormlover said, I'd expect conditions to be a lot better.  IMO that was a fluke last year, because most times we've gone down have been great.

Yeah this year we have about 4 families coming and staying at the same motel. We stay in Wildwood Crest at the ElCoronado. 

Anyway thanks, I’m hoping the WAR returns :)

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8 minutes ago, dave0176 said:

Yeah this year we have about 4 families coming and staying at the same motel. We stay in Wildwood Crest at the ElCoronado. 

Anyway thanks, I’m hoping the WAR returns :)

One of the last years we went it was in late August and it rained the entire week, but my cousins were there and we had a great time just hanging out at the motel even though we didn't go in the water once

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28 minutes ago, dave0176 said:

Yeah this year we have about 4 families coming and staying at the same motel. We stay in Wildwood Crest at the ElCoronado. 

Anyway thanks, I’m hoping the WAR returns :)

We stay at the Lotus Inn now, but used to stay at the Coronado too.  Hoping we both get to enjoy Wildwood this time around :D

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12 hours ago, SnoSki14 said:

Wow at the record heat in S. CA. Widespread 110+ temps. 

Especially the new all-time highs at Burbank and Van Nuys. I see UCLA just broke their all-time record also. Really extreme since the highest temperatures of the year in LA typically occur later in September.

Record-breaking heat today - including daily records, a few for the month of July, and even a couple of all-time record highs. We will see a gradual cooling trend starting tomorrow. #LAheat #SoCal #CAwx pic.twitter.com/AT6eKSJ8Hf
 
UCLA High Temperature just hit 111 degrees, so it has now set an all-time record. The old all time high was 109 set on Sept. 20th 1939. #LAweather#LAheat #SoCal
 
The median date where Los Angeles records their hottest temperature of the year (not the normal temp; but the actual temp) is September 24th. This is the latest for any major city in the U.S. @NWSLosAngeles
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1 hour ago, weathermedic said:

Interesting read about all those record high temperatures in the L.A. area this weekend. Seems like some of the same issues locally.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/07/08/the-all-time-record-high-temperatures-for-los-angeles-are-the-result-of-a-faulty-weather-stations-and-should-be-disqualified/

Not really. It’s just an article complaining that official weather obs are taken anywhere in an urban area other than under a tree (like Central Park). According to that article unless a reading for a city is taken outside of a built up area it’s not a valid reading. Notwithstanding the fact that millions of people live in said urban center in the built up area and might want to know hot it is where they live, which is not under a tree.

and not to mention that website is purely dedicated to denying climate change. Gotta check the source.

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3 hours ago, weathermedic said:

Interesting read about all those record high temperatures in the L.A. area this weekend. Seems like some of the same issues locally.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/07/08/the-all-time-record-high-temperatures-for-los-angeles-are-the-result-of-a-faulty-weather-stations-and-should-be-disqualified/

Pictures don't lie, and I've often been surprised at how badly so many so called official weather stations are situated.

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If anything, the Downtown LA site might be slightly shaded by trees. But a much better ASOS siting than the one in NYC with the sensor blocked by dense tree growth and vegetation.

https://gizmodo.com/the-high-tech-sensors-that-keep-track-of-l-a-s-weather-156477665

A Moreton Bay fig and eucalyptus trees stand near the station. Their proximity may influence weather readings, but they also approximate the conditions most suburban Angelenos experience:

http://www.weather2000.com/ASOS/NYC_ASOS.html

Perhaps the most surprising extreme heat of the day was on Catalina Island. You know the air mass is historic when you see this much heat offshore.

The 120F in Thermal & Chino, California were quite impressive. Most remarkable was Catalina Island, ~22 miles out in the Pacific from Los Angeles...Avalon Airport reached 106F, and the NWS shows "Avalon Inland" reaching 112F! Amazing that the heat could arrive there unmodified!pic.twitter.com/aHJBPccjSw

 

 

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On 7/8/2018 at 9:54 PM, weathermedic said:

Interesting read about all those record high temperatures in the L.A. area this weekend. Seems like some of the same issues locally.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/07/08/the-all-time-record-high-temperatures-for-los-angeles-are-the-result-of-a-faulty-weather-stations-and-should-be-disqualified/

At 10:00 am on July 10, Central Park is the coolest ASOS site in the NYC Metro at 81 degrees. Even Westhampton is warmer at 82. Clear issue of horrible siting.

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11 hours ago, forkyfork said:

remember when it used to rain more than once every few weeks

Coming up on the 11th anniversary.

NEW YORK

...NASSAU COUNTY...
   GARDEN CITY           5.18   200 PM  7/18   NASSAU COMM COLLEGE
   GARDEN CITY           3.44   200 PM  7/18   MESONET
   FARMINGDALE           3.02   200 PM  7/18  

...NEW YORK COUNTY...
   NYC/CENTRAL PARK      1.59   200 PM  7/18  

...QUEENS COUNTY...
   FRESH MEADOWS         3.35   200 PM  7/18   MESONET
   NYC/LA GUARDIA        2.67   200 PM  7/18  
   NYC/JFK ARPT          0.75   200 PM  7/18  

...SUFFOLK COUNTY...
   EAST QUOGUE           4.02   200 PM  7/18   MESONET
   UPTON                 3.92   200 PM  7/18   NWS FORECAST OFFICE
   SHIRLEY               3.75   200 PM  7/18  
   ISLIP                 3.34   200 PM  7/18  
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29 minutes ago, Cfa said:

I haven’t been able to come anywhere near 2 inches in a rain event since the 2014 flood.

Only 5 (lackluster) thunderstorms so far this year, 6 if you include thundersnow. :thumbsdown:

Hard to believe the 2014 deluge was the last summer event at ISP over 2.00".

8-13-14.....13.51

6-8-13......4.58

7-29-12....2.99

6-25-12....4.16

6-13-12....2.32

8-28-11....3.03

8-15-11....6.49

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2 hours ago, bluewave said:

Hard to believe the 2014 deluge was the last summer event at ISP over 2.00".

8-13-14.....13.51

6-8-13......4.58

7-29-12....2.99

6-25-12....4.16

6-13-12....2.32

8-28-11....3.03

8-15-11....6.49

I think we had one last summer over 2.00”, training storms

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These big swings in either precipitation or temperature just won't let up.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2018/07/12/washington-is-in-a-flash-drought-with-only-fleeting-chances-of-rain-in-the-forecast/?utm_term=.992ff1e3e945

 

Remember May and June, and all of the torrential rain? Ellicott City catastrophically flooding for the second time in two years, and Frederick overflowing with water? That is absolutely over now. Seemingly overnight, two months of often-unfathomable rainfall ceded to sunny, hot days and parched lawns.

Since June 27, the last day of rain, Washington has received zero measurable precipitation, as measured at Reagan National Airport. That’s 14 days in a row, and it’s really strange — especially since the season that’s supposed to deliver afternoon showers and thunderstorms like clockwork is not yet over.

“This stretch we are in now is about as dry as it gets this time of year” in Washington, according to Ian Livingston, our local climate guru. He’s specifically taking into account the fact that we’re still in the peak of summer thunderstorm season.

Going beyond “strange” and getting a little more technical, Washington is in a “flash drought” — a short period of high temperatures and rapidly decreasing soil moisture. There are two kinds of flash droughts: those caused by heat waves and the ones caused by lack of rainfall.

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