NNE Summer Thread

[Whineminster]

On 5/15/2018 at 8:59 PM, powderfreak said:

Looks like it was good to get even some rain.

Active forest fire season from what I've heard.  This was a photo from a fire near Plymouth, VT last night.  WCAX had something on it (not my photos).

That's so cool.  Burn off some of that understory detritus. I want one. 

[wxeyeNH]

Getting drier and drier.  Got .08" late afternoon.   That may be it for this month.  Grand total should be .77".   Most of that was nickels and dimes that never did more than wet the surface.  Hopefully something late week will deliver have been watering the gardens.

Lots of showers just missed yesterday and last night.  Brian, you must have gotten something decent??

 

 

[tamarack]

Three cloudy or mostly cloudy days without a drop this long weekend.  We had nearly 1/2" in about 10 minutes, late evening on 5/4, and only 0.46" since then.  Farmers working the fields are leaving rooster tails of dust.

[powderfreak]

21 hours ago, wxeyeNH said:

Getting drier and drier.  Got .08" late afternoon.   That may be it for this month.  Grand total should be .77".   Most of that was nickels and dimes that never did more than wet the surface.  Hopefully something late week will deliver have been watering the gardens.

Lots of showers just missed yesterday and last night.  Brian, you must have gotten something decent??

 

Wow it's crazy how dry you and Tamarack have been.

The two local cocorahs here are Stowe 0.2sw with 3.26" and Stowe 3.7n with 4.03"....so 3-4" locally here though to be honest I didn't get the stratus out early in the month so couldn't give you my backyard total.

[wxeyeNH]

1 hour ago, powderfreak said:

Wow it's crazy how dry you and Tamarack have been.

The two local cocorahs here are Stowe 0.2sw with 3.26" and Stowe 3.7n with 4.03"....so 3-4" locally here though to be honest I didn't get the stratus out early in the month so couldn't give you my backyard total.

Dirt roads are very dusty here as well as my garden top soil.  April 25th I got an inch.   Then all these nickels and dimes that never soak in.  This should change over the Friday-Sunday period and put a stop to my whining.  

27-Apr	0.18
28-Apr	0.25
30-Apr	0.1
6-May	0.1
20-May	0.43
22-May	0.16
27-May	0.08

[J.Spin]

20 hours ago, powderfreak said:

The two local cocorahs here are Stowe 0.2sw with 3.26" and Stowe 3.7n with 4.03"....so 3-4" locally here though to be honest I didn't get the stratus out early in the month so couldn't give you my backyard total.

I just checked my CoCoRaHS numbers, and our site is at 2.96” of liquid for the month, so just on the low end of that 3-4” range.  I think you guys had a bit more in the Stowe area with at least one of those May events.

Checking my data, that puts us roughly 2” below average liquid for May though, so it has been on the dry side.  Liquid this month has been more akin to a local site outside the mountains like BTV (May mean liquid = 3.21”), but it’s given me some dry windows of time and I was able to get in a first cut of the lawn this weekend for the parts that needed it.

I took advantage of the dew this morning and the dry forecast for the next couple of days put down some weed and feed on the lawn, but true to form, some light showers moved in during the process.  I’d even checked the forecast and radar thoroughly, and there was no precipitation visible in the area even on composite, but the mountains had other things to say about that I guess.  The rain seemed light enough that it wouldn’t be too detrimental to the process though, so I’m hopeful.

[powderfreak]

Yeah JSpin, nothing on radar but had some good sheet rain of the small droplet type earlier here at the mountain. 

Suns out now.

[nzucker]

1 hour ago, powderfreak said:

Yeah JSpin, nothing on radar but had some good sheet rain of the small droplet type earlier here at the mountain. 

Suns out now.

Any snow left on Mansfield? What is the stake reading?

[powderfreak]

1 hour ago, nzucker said:

Any snow left on Mansfield? What is the stake reading?

Nothing left at the Stake but widely patchy snow in the high elevation spruce forests.  

I'm up here now, funny this is what's left from like 8 feet of snow.

[LongBeachSurfFreak]

8 hours ago, powderfreak said:

Nothing left at the Stake but widely patchy snow in the high elevation spruce forests.  

I'm up here now, funny this is what's left from like 8 feet of snow.

Amazing there is any left at all. I assume some of it is blow off from the top that settles in the woods. Similar to what happens on mt. Washington 

[wxeyeNH]

Alex at the base of Bretton Woods along the river recorded a low of 30.2F.  About 3 hours at 32F or lower.  Very impressive for June 10th!

Here is his graph, time sensitive   https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KNHCARRO4#history

[wxeyeNH]

72/51F  A "10" day!  Dark blue skies and just about the highest sun angle of the year.

Where is eek?  I miss him keeping me on the straight and narrow with my obs.

[gravitylover]

Hey NNEers I'm going to be up in the NEK for 4 days starting tomorrow and I'll be outdoors the entire time with no way to be indoors. Other than Thurs and Fri nights being a bit on the cool side do you think that the wetness forecast for Saturday and Sunday going to be significant or just a nuisance?  I'm trying to figure out what to pack...

[eekuasepinniW]

On 6/15/2018 at 5:29 PM, wxeyeNH said:

72/51F  A "10" day!  Dark blue skies and just about the highest sun angle of the year.

Where is eek?  I miss him keeping me on the straight and narrow with my obs.

Powderfreak was posting pictures of snow so I had to stay away from this thread.

Don't worry, I'm keeping a close eye on your obs and pond depth reports. 

[wxeyeNH]

7 minutes ago, eekuasepinniW said:

Powderfreak was posting pictures of snow so I had to stay away from this thread.

Don't worry, I'm keeping a close eye on your obs and pond depth reports. 

Eek,  i was just asking where you had been.  Yeah, you keep me honest on those pond depths.  It went dry during the big drought a couple of years back.  You corrected me that it had never gone dry before but you were right it did at least another year.  I think during the big drought it went dry in late July.  By August I was able to mow the base of it.  It went from full pond at the end of April to almost no water left in it so if this dry spell keeps up it will be dry pretty shortly.  Now that the ground is so dry even a couple of inches of rain will not bring it up.  We will see what happens...

[IrishRob17]

1 hour ago, eekuasepinniW said:

Powderfreak was posting pictures of snow so I had to stay away from this thread.

 

I just figured that you were too busy counting all your cash from bike week

[klw]

Question based on my memory.  The summer of 1993 or 94 (I think 93) had BTV hit 100 2 or 3 days and it had only ever hit 100 2 times before that.  Is this accurate at all?  I am going off of 25 year old memories.

[klw]

5 hours ago, klw said:

Question based on my memory.  The summer of 1993 or 94 (I think 93) had BTV hit 100 2 or 3 days and it had only ever hit 100 2 times before that.  Is this accurate at all?  I am going off of 25 year old memories.

93 saw a steak of 6 straight days of 90+ but the highest was 93.

1995 saw 2 100f days;

https://www.weather.gov/media/btv/climo/extremes/xtrmtemp.pdf
 

Quote

 

Highest

101 degrees- Aug 11th, 1944

100 degrees- Jul 14th, 1995 Jun 19th, 1995 Jul 3rd, 1911

99 degrees- Aug 9th, 2001 Jul 20th, 1977 Aug 2nd, 1975 Jul 18th, 1953

98 degrees- Jul 19th, 2013 Sep 9th, 2002 Aug 1st, 1975 Jul 29th, 1949 Jul 3rd, 1966 Jul 27th, 1949 Jul 8th, 1921 Aug 1st, 1917 Jul 4th & 5th, 1911

 

 

 

https://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KBTV/1995/6/6/MonthlyHistory.html?req_city=&req_state=&req_statename=&reqdb.zip=&reqdb.magic=&reqdb.wmo=

https://www.weather.gov/media/btv/climo/extremes/extremetemps.pdf

[Hitman]

interesting stuff.

https://www.weather.gov/btv/June-18-2018-Severe-Weather-Review-Including-the-Waitsfield-VT-Wet-Microburst

[mreaves]

Seems like summer is knocking on our door. I would change the title of the thread if I could figure out how. 

Anyway, the rain has started here, a bit earlier than I was expecting. I’d like to see us get more than the .25” or so we got over the weekend. Would love to see 1”+

[hypatia]

I did a little backyard storm chasing this evening and took this video from Starr Farm Beach on Lake Champlain.  The storms were right around the international border at the time.  Simply beautiful.

 

[tamarack]

Thanks to some delay in the heat getting into Maine, June at my place finished 2° BN, and the average low of 46.1 was 2nd coldest of 21 Junes.  Notably, the mildest low was 2° short of 60.  Highest temp was a modest 82 on the 13th, lowest was a near-frost 34 two days earlier.  Most of the month's 4.75" (0.55" BN) came early and late.  Two 15-minute downpours late afternoon on the 1st dumped 0.92", and the all-day showers of the 28th brought 1.55".  Though we heard distant rumbles on a couple other days, 6/1 was the month's only TS.  In an average year we've had 6 TS by 6/30, but only 2 so far in 2018 (not counting the early morning noise on July 1.)

[backedgeapproaching]

Well, looks 5 days straight of 90F+ here, and think Saturday was 89F, so almost 6 straight, which is pretty impressive.(Im guessing it has happened before, but not sure) I dont have good records in my 4 years here, but we haven't hit 90F that often that I can recall, and the times we do hit 90F its normally like 91/64 type stuff.  

Only thing its been good for is swimming. Been hitting up local lakes and pools with the kiddos and not used to getting out and not needing a towel or feeling a chill from the normal 81/60F airmass i'm used to while swimming up here. Although Sunday was absurd with the temp/dew combo, even after swimming had to go right to the shade and still couldn't cool off.

 

[J.Spin]

17 hours ago, backedgeapproaching said:

Well, looks 5 days straight of 90F+ here, and think Saturday was 89F, so almost 6 straight, which is pretty impressive.(Im guessing it has happened before, but not sure) I dont have good records in my 4 years here, but we haven't hit 90F that often that I can recall, and the times we do hit 90F its normally like 91/64 type stuff.  

Only thing its been good for is swimming. Been hitting up local lakes and pools with the kiddos and not used to getting out and not needing a towel or feeling a chill from the normal 81/60F airmass i'm used to while swimming up here.

This was the first time we had to turn on the AC in our house in the roughly 12 years that we’ve been living here, so I don’t think we’ve had a stretch like it during that time.  With our proximity to the mountains, we always drop into the 60s F or lower each night, so for our area to stay up in the 70s F for two (or three?) nights during this stretch was definitely unusual. 

And oh man, the swimming was such an awesome perk from the heatwave.  I usually find that we need about three days or so in the 90s F to really get a lot of our cooler streams around here to comfortable levels, and it seems like we haven’t done that in a while.  We took care of it with this stretch though.  We headed to Bristol Falls on Wednesday and it was glorious!  It was an absolutely perfect day to be out there – we spent two continuous hours mostly in the water, and like you said, you could get out without even feeling a chill.  I do look forward to these sorts of heatwaves in that regard, but it looks like we’ll be getting back to business as usual now.  I’m psyched to get back on the bike etc. though.

[Hitman]

2 hours ago, J.Spin said:

This was the first time we had to turn on the AC in our house in the roughly 12 years that we’ve been living here, so I don’t think we’ve had a stretch like it during that time.  With our proximity to the mountains, we always drop into the 60s F or lower each night, so for our area to stay up in the 70s F for two (or three?) nights during this stretch was definitely unusual. 

And oh man, the swimming was such an awesome perk from the heatwave.  I usually find that we need about three days or so in the 90s F to really get a lot of our cooler streams around here to comfortable levels, and it seems like we haven’t done that in a while.  We took care of it with this stretch though.  We headed to Bristol Falls on Wednesday and it was glorious!  It was an absolutely perfect day to be out there – we spent two continuous hours mostly in the water, and like you said, you could get out without even feeling a chill.  I do look forward to these sorts of heatwaves in that regard, but it looks like we’ll be getting back to business as usual now.  I’m psyched to get back on the bike etc. though.

The water was really warm at blueberry lake and the mad river in Warren.  It was great.  Stay in the water forever and then when you get out, no need to dry off.  Felt great.  Was a tad warm/humid biking but I avoided heat stroke, so all good.

[ApacheTrout]

It's been dry here at the southern end of Addison County.  Here is how this year 's precipitation (inches) during the growing season (May 1 through July 10) stacks up with previous years:

2018: 4.51
2017: 13.34
2016: 8.09
2015: 13.18
2014: 6.95
2013: 15.78
2012: 9.20
2011: 12.01
2010: 7.51
2009: 13.26

[tamarack]

Nice alternate-year sequence:  Odd years avg 13.51", even, 7.25". 
Doesn't work at my place due to a very wet June in 2012 and in early July of 2014.  High (2013) and low (2018) are the same, however. 

[J.Spin]

8 hours ago, ApacheTrout said:

It's been dry here at the southern end of Addison County.  Here is how this year 's precipitation (inches) during the growing season (May 1 through July 10) stacks up with previous years:

2018: 4.51
2017: 13.34
2016: 8.09
2015: 13.18
2014: 6.95
2013: 15.78
2012: 9.20
2011: 12.01
2010: 7.51
2009: 13.26

Those data are really interesting – I checked my data to see if the same sort of pattern occurred since we’re fairly close geographically, and indeed it’s there.  I just used 1/3 of my July rainfall numbers as an estimate instead of getting all the daily July data, but it should be a decent approximation.  Mean for the period is 13.52 inches, so this has indeed been a dry stretch – the lowest rainfall I’ve seen during that period.  The grass has been fine though, will plenty of windows for mowing.

2018: 7.89

2017: 16.46

2016: 9.70

2015: 17.88

2014: 11.19

2013: 19.25

2012: 11.60

2011: 15.85

2010: 11.04

[ApacheTrout]

2 hours ago, J.Spin said:

Those data are really interesting – I checked my data to see if the same sort of pattern occurred since we’re fairly close geographically, and indeed it’s there.  I just used 1/3 of my July rainfall numbers as an estimate instead of getting all the daily July data, but it should be a decent approximation.  Mean for the period is 13.52 inches, so this has indeed been a dry stretch – the lowest rainfall I’ve seen during that period.  The grass has been fine though, will plenty of windows for mowing.

2018: 7.89

2017: 16.46

2016: 9.70

2015: 17.88

2014: 11.19

2013: 19.25

2012: 11.60

2011: 15.85

2010: 11.04

t's neat to see the pattern in your data, too.  a 10-yr period is too short to draw conclusions, but I wonder if this alternating pattern would bear out over a longer time frame.  I'd also like to see if temperatures do the same.

[tamarack]

16 hours ago, ApacheTrout said:

t's neat to see the pattern in your data, too.  a 10-yr period is too short to draw conclusions, but I wonder if this alternating pattern would bear out over a longer time frame.  I'd also like to see if temperatures do the same.

There was a 13-year period here when March minima showed an awesome alternation.  Month average almost di, but 2008 broke the string by never getting any warmth (max was 47) and would've spoiled the minima had it not been leap year - Feb. 29 had low of -26.

2000   -6   32.3
2001  -25  24.6
2002   -3   27.7
2003  -23  24.2
2004   -2   29.5
2005  -19  25.0
2006   -3   29.2
2007  -23  25.8
2008   -8   24.5
2009  -17  26.5
2010 +11  35.0
2011  -22  22.5
2012  -10  34.4

Since then neither the means nor minima show any pattern.
It's worth noting (to me) that March 2010 was milder than 2012 despite the latter's record-burying heat wave.  Max for 3/10 was a modest 64 while 3/12 had one day at 64 but also maxima of 68, 74. 77. 79. and 80.  It also had a minima of -10 and 5 days with sub-freezing maxima while the coolest max for 3/10 was 35.  That 90° range for 3/12 is the greatest for any month I've measured, topping the 87° of Jan. 1979 (40/-47) in Ft. Kent.