Harry Perry Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Well if the 0z NAM pans out - Stebo and I will be dealing with some prolific icing. GFS is further north by roughly 40-50 miles... yuck. Forecast soundings really are textbook quality for this event if all pans out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 On 4/11/2018 at 12:07 AM, cyclone77 said: Looks like a band of showers and embedded thunder Friday night, dry slot Sat, and flurries Sun for most of the DVN cwa. Thoughts from last night still apply. Sort of a meh type system for this area. Rains should help to green things up though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNstorms Posted April 12, 2018 Author Share Posted April 12, 2018 Even though the models have no ice for me NWS thinks different. That would be Cat3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 6z NAM has over 2" of qpf as sleet at YYZ. Better that than ZR i guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 APX AFD a hilarious read this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh_4184 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 2 hours ago, snowstormcanuck said: APX AFD a hilarious read this morning. Yea, def one of their bests in a while, granted the weather has been horrible the past 3 months. Quote .SHORT TERM...(Friday through Saturday) Issued at 400 AM EDT Thu Apr 12 2018 ...Here Comes the Storm... Primary Forecast Concern...Pops, precipitation type and amounts as well as the potential for dangerous icing and power outages. Boy this storm approaching from the Plains states has the potential to be quite a whopper. Copious amounts of moisture overrides a boundary draped right across northern Michigan (lucky us). In addition, arctic high pressure anchored to our north will provide low level cold air while warmer air overrides the front at mid levels. Throw some convection into the mix and you have a complex convoluted mess with lots of potential to have major impacts on the region. Models all in general agreement on the track of the low pressure system crawling northeastward out of the Plains. Differences arise over the amount of low level cold air and mid level warm air which will determine in what form the 1 to perhaps 1.5 inches of qpf fall. Unfortunately the complexity of this situation is off the charts difficulty wise but will hopefully be able to come close (like maybe achieving an 80% on a big exam). With the strong baroclinc zone over the region (-5 C north to +5 south at 850 mb) mostly solid precipitation (snow and sleet) expected across eastern upper and far northern lower with snow, sleet and freezing rain in between while freezing rain and rain falls across the south. Snow/sleet accumulations through Saturday generally 6 to 10 inches north (with more Saturday night into Sunday), ice accumulations of a tenth or two central and possibly over a quarter of an inch far south (all through Saturday with more likely into Sunday). Expect adjustments in future forecasts. Will be issuing winter storm watch headlines for all of northern lower for the potential for a very impactful and likely dangerous winter storm. Also in the mix of possibilities is a lull in activity Saturday as dry air advects in from the north before moisture likely reloads later Saturday night through at least Sunday. The watch will start Friday morning across the northern half of northern lower as it looks cold enough for snow, sleet and freezing rain. Farther south, mainly rain is expected Friday so the watch will begin late Friday night. All watches will end late Sunday afternoon. Will not have a watch across eastern upper as the dry air is expected to keep significant precipitation to the south across northern lower (but this could change). Almost forgot gusty northeast winds could exasperate the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchaumburgStormer Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 6 hours ago, cyclone77 said: Thoughts from last night still apply. Sort of a meh type system for this area. Rains should help to green things up though. Looks even more Meh here. However, I am ok with a “meh” potential winter storm in mid-April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrdIowPitMsp Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 6 hours ago, Minnesota_storms said: Even though the models have no ice for me NWS thinks different. That would be Cat3 Hopefully this afternoon we can get a more refined idea of P-type, even as a winter lover I'll take anything over an icing event. My gut says no way we get this much ice in mid April but who knows the way this month has panned out so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravisWx Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 I really hope this weenie map is way, way wrong. Latest GFS run shows 38-40" of snow for most of Presque Isle county. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Please happen. I took Monday off.... heading to where ever the snow falls on Sunday morning. If it's amazing enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh_4184 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, Jonger said: Please happen. I took Monday off.... heading to where ever the snow falls on Sunday morning. If it's amazing enough. Makes sure you bring your generator with you as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 40 minutes ago, josh_4184 said: Makes sure you bring your generator with you as well. I'm hoping to get a small RV in the next few years... I'll tow the sleds with that and never worry about hotels anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoboy645 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Not snow but looking like 2-3" of rain could fall here. This will be much needed as we haven't had a single inch of rain since the middle of february. A Freaking Inch! Also might get some thunderstorms here which is also nice as I havent heard thunder at all yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrisale Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Ice event beginning to look a bit more likely now. I think the question now is how much will be IP vs. ZR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Deformation band potential getting slightly more interesting for LOT. It occurs partly daytime and partly after dark on Sunday so not as ideal as all after dark. GEM actually puts it more in IN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Impressed with the amount of cold air with this system considering it is mid April. I haven't dug into dgz/snow growth potential to get a better idea of ratios but some of the snow area will have temps well down into the 20s. Even the band that goes through here Sun night/Mon could have temps falling into the 20s on the back end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowstorms Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 9 hours ago, snowstormcanuck said: 6z NAM has over 2" of qpf as sleet at YYZ. Better that than ZR i guess. Looking more and more likely this will be a decent sleet storm before we see the potential for heavy rain later Sunday into Monday. Could definitely see 2-4" of qpf over the next few days which is a month's worth of precipitation. A nice reprieve from the dry and boring March we had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toronto4 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 10 minutes ago, Snowstorms said: Looking more and more likely this will be a decent sleet storm before we see the potential for heavy rain later Sunday into Monday. Could definitely see 2-4" of qpf over the next few days which is a month's worth of precipitation. A nice reprieve from the dry and boring March we had. Any sleet that falls this weekend will add to the seasonal snowfall total at YYZ. Sleet is considered as a form of frozen precipitation (snow). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toronto4 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Some of 12z Euro ensemble members are colder than the op run and bring significant snowfall/sleet to the Greater Toronto Area on Saturday afternoon/evening. They are faster in sagging the backdoor cold front on Saturday morning. The 12z WRF run from today hints at this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillsdaleMIWeather Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 18Z NAM is similar to the 0Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, HillsdaleMIWeather said: 18Z NAM is similar to the 0Z Yeah, the ice area gets fairly far south on this run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Man that NAM run is the height of weather misery around here...close to an inch of precip falls with a temp of like 33. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baum Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 April 13-14, 1961. Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrdIowPitMsp Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Impressive graphic for January absolutely absurd for April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Met1985 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Looks like central and northern Wisconsin will get a good wollup of snow this weekend with some pretty good winds to go with the snow. We still have snow on the ground from last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh_4184 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Lol at GFS, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zinski1990 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Crazy storm. Been a while since Wisconsin and central Michigan have had a big winter storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 16 minutes ago, zinski1990 said: Crazy storm. Been a while since Wisconsin and central Michigan have had a big winter storm. Super Tuesday 08 was a doozy for Central MI and WI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoboy645 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 23 minutes ago, Stebo said: Super Tuesday 08 was a doozy for Central MI and WI. Yeah the interstate even closed down for a while during the storm. Its the reason why there is gates on some interstate exits in the state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 8 hours ago, harrisale said: Ice event beginning to look a bit more likely now. I think the question now is how much will be IP vs. ZR. I was going with climo and thinking the biggest ZR threat would be to our north. Now it seems like it actually may be S/W of the escarpment and we get pelleted to death. Just another nudge 'til we're in snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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