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HimoorWx

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dendrite

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Date:0000Z  3 AUG 75
Station: KCHH
WMO ident:  74494
Latitude:   41.67
Longitude: -69.97
Elevation:  16.00
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LEV PRES  HGHT  TEMP  DEWP  RH  DD   WETB DIR SPD THETA THE-V THE-W THE-E   W
     mb     m     C     C    %   C     C  deg knt   K     K     K     K    g/kg
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SFC 1008    16  27.8  22.8  74  5.0  24.2 240   8 300.3 303.5 297.0 351.9 17.60
  1 1000    90  29.2  20.2  58  9.0  22.8 245   8 302.4 305.1 295.9 346.9 15.07
  2  950   549  30.6  15.6  40 15.0  20.3 272  13 308.2 310.5 295.3 344.0 11.81
  3  944   605  30.8  13.8  36 17.0  19.4 275  13 309.0 311.0 294.6 341.1 10.56
  4  900  1031  26.8  12.8  42 14.0  17.5 300  18 309.1 311.1 294.5 340.7 10.37
  5  850  1532  22.0  10.0  46 12.0  14.3 330  23 309.2 310.9 293.6 337.0  9.11
  6  800  2055  18.8   1.8  32 17.0   9.3 339  23 311.2 312.2 291.2 328.2  5.45
  7  774  2337  16.8  -3.2  25 20.0   6.5 344  23 312.0 312.7 290.1 324.3  3.90
  8  750  2605  14.6  -4.4  27 19.0   5.1 349  23 312.4 313.1 290.0 324.1  3.68
  9  700  3183   9.8  -7.2  29 17.0   1.9   0  23 313.3 313.9 289.8 323.5  3.18
 10  650  3790   5.0 -12.0  28 17.0  -2.0 354  22 314.6 315.1 289.5 322.3  2.34
 11  600  4435   0.0 -17.0  26 17.0  -6.1 349  21 316.1 316.4 289.3 321.7  1.68
 12  581  4691  -2.3 -19.3  26 17.0  -7.9 346  21 316.4 316.6 289.1 321.2  1.43
 13  550  5122  -5.7 -23.7  23 18.0 -10.9 342  20 317.3 317.5 289.0 320.8  1.03
 14  535  5337  -7.5 -26.5  20 19.0 -12.5 340  20 317.7 317.8 288.9 320.5  0.82
 15  500  5860  -9.9 -28.9  20 19.0 -14.5 335  19 321.0 321.1 289.8 323.5  0.70
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ORH_wxman

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9 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

Can we get the pressure level products I wonder.  850s 800 etc

According to this site, the CHH RAOB registered "only" a max of 22C at 850mb during that heat wave. It's def impressive...a top 5 occurrence for August only beaten by 1995 (multiple special launches during that one), 1948, and 2006. But no "golden nugget" reading that stands out as to why the surface baked. It...there's prob some combo of dryness to the airmass (crazy lapse rates?) and of course the wind direction as you already mentioned.

https://www.weather.gov/media/unr/soo/pw/top50-T850.pdf

 

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2 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

According to this site, the CHH RAOB registered "only" a max of 22C at 850mb during that heat wave. It's def impressive...a top 5 occurrence for August only beaten by 1995 (multiple special launches during that one), 1948, and 2006. But no "golden nugget" reading that stands out as to why the surface baked. It...there's prob some combo of dryness to the airmass (crazy lapse rates?) and of course the wind direction as you already mentioned.

https://www.weather.gov/media/unr/soo/pw/top50-T850.pdf

 

ACK shot up with a due north wind for several hours.

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20 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

Aug 1975 wasn't even an above avg temp month at ORH and BDL....it had that epic 3 days to start the month and then the rest of the month was largely below normal which was able to wipe out all the positive departures and then some. BOS was able to hang onto slightly positive departure for the month.

 

July 1975 was actually a pretty warm/summary month but didn't have the signature heat wave that Aug 1975 had.

threadex has HFD with a 76 average + 2.4

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Just now, dendrite said:

It was damn hot, but I don't think it touches July 2011.

Aloft....2011 takes the cake easily. At the sfc though, at least in SNE, it's pretty close. ORH only tied 1975 and BOS did beat it by 1F. But near the south coast, the winds were def more favorable and the readings are way higher in 1975 down there. PVD hung up a 104 in 1975 and "only" a 101 in 2011. PVD's 104F in 1975 actually beats BDL's and BOS's max temps in 2011. The latter both were 103F.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

Aloft....2011 takes the cake easily. At the sfc though, at least in SNE, it's pretty close. ORH only tied 1975 and BOS did beat it by 1F. But near the south coast, the winds were def more favorable and the readings are way higher in 1975 down there. PVD hung up a 104 in 1975 and "only" a 101 in 2011. PVD's 104F in 1975 actually beats BDL's and BOS's max temps in 2011. The latter both were 103F.

 

 

Didn’t New Bedford or Fall River set some ridiculous record on that date? Although I think it is questionable for some reason...

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9 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Can’t say there should be any surprise. 

This one has a good chance to have me surpass Ray for seasonal totals .

You're still like 5-6" behind Ray on seasonal total...not gonna happen this storm. You need to hope for a miracle later in the season.

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4 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said:

Didn’t New Bedford or Fall River set some ridiculous record on that date? Although I think it is questionable for some reason...

EWB had 107F....given PVD had 104F, I don't think it is that ridiculous. I am a little skeptical of it being a touch high. But I certainly believe that they could have broken 105F.

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4 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

EWB had 107F....given PVD had 104F, I don't think it is that ridiculous. I am a little skeptical of it being a touch high. But I certainly believe that they could have broken 105F.

That EWB COOP reading is crap. The airport only had 99/100F.

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2 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

I never added in that inch last week when I wasn’t home . That’s 84.3”

Hes around 88”

Looks like 88.5" assuming he did not get any sleet accumulation (he may have but didn't update it yet)....still not happening. IF you get like 5 inches in this storm, it means Ray is getting snow too and its entirely possible he gets more than you in this event given the mid-levels.

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Damage In Tolland

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3 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

Looks like 88.5" assuming he did not get any sleet accumulation (he may have but didn't update it yet)....still not happening. IF you get like 5 inches in this storm, it means Ray is getting snow too and its entirely possible he gets more than you in this event given the mid-levels.

Strictly an elevation event till the very end when his coastal plain flips over. 

I’m not getting 4” no. But we sniffed this one out days ago

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2 minutes ago, dendrite said:

That EWB COOP reading is crap. The airport only had 99/100F.

Oh if the airport was that low, then yeah....coop reading tossed. Tossed further than Mookie Betts' HRs last night.

Someone not too far away though could have cracked 105F plausibly if the PVD reading is good.

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5 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

Looks like 88.5" assuming he did not get any sleet accumulation (he may have but didn't update it yet)....still not happening. IF you get like 5 inches in this storm, it means Ray is getting snow too and its entirely possible he gets more than you in this event given the mid-levels.

Latitude.

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