CoastalWx Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 17 minutes ago, powderfreak said: And this was a fine example of all the model p-type algorithms failing when the warmth is so high up. No matter the vendor or product, they tried to code this as snow. Glad I stayed conservative as may make it to my 2-4" range on the low side. This is why we look at soundings and call them clown maps. Yet they are posted so much in here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Spent a little time between Yahoo and Google ... I was trying to find a proper, and vetted (as in really true), list of coldest MLB games ever played. I didn't have a lot of luck, but I did find that some web-sites out there kept track per their stadium. It appears this game day will be in the top 10 coldest ever played when the first pitch is thrown in a little over an hour. However, what data does exist, does really do much for the 'harshness' of those occurrences... It would be a bit more subjective, over course, but sufficed it is to say... today, in that "cold"ron of concrete and iron known as Fenway, having the mass of the audience actually facing the NE mind you... this would have to rank I think in the top five just eyeballing against other scenarios. But again, if anyone can provide/find a better list by all means. A vision of air temperature and dew point in that 34/31 range, while snitz's and starts of occasional flurries, while winds puffing in at occasional 20 mph face smacks...? That's a pretty uniquely horrific setting for an activity more typically associated to the "boys of summer" - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: Spent a little time between Yahoo and Google ... I was trying to find a proper, and vetted (as in really true), list of cold MLB games ever played. I didn't have a lot of luck, but I did find that some web-sites out there kept track per their stadium. It appears this game day will be in the top 10 coldest ever played when the first pitch is thrown in a little over an hour. However, what data does exist, does really do much for the 'harshness' of those occurrences... It would be a bit more subjective, over course, but sufficed it is to say... today, in that "cold"ron of concrete and iron, with the mass of the audience facing the NE mind you... this would have to rank I think in the top five just eyeballing against other scenarios. But again, if anyone can provide/find a better list by all means. Could 34/31 with snitz and and occasional flurries, with winds puffin in at occasional 20 mph face smacks... that's a pretty uniquely horrific setting for an activity associated to the "boys of summer" - Atl @ Col 4/23/2013 is recognized as the coldest MLB game I believe. Game 1 starting temp was 23F. There's been 10 other games with a starting temp of 30F or less (at least documented). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, dendrite said: Atl @ Col 4/23/2013 is recognized as the coldest MLB game I believe. Game 1 starting temp was 23F. There's been 10 other games with a starting temp of 30F or less (at least documented). Yeah, I found that one ... but, I was kinda hoping it there would be properly formatted list ... like that one is obviously #1 ...then #2 is so-and-so...and this one today is #5 or something like that. And also to re-iterate... what were the other parameters they faced in that cold and so forth... I mean, if it was dead calm with high April sun, it may not be as shocking to the system as sitting in a metal seat with slat gray skies spitting occasional sleet and flurries, with 20 mph winds in the face. I'd take the 23 high sun no wind scenario over that in a heartbeat ... But I don't know ... just sayn' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Just now, Typhoon Tip said: Yeah, I found that one ... but, I was kinda hoping it there would be properly formatted list ... like that one is obviously #1 ...then #2 is so-and-so...and this one today is #5 or something like that. The Sox game today? Here's a list I found online. It looks like it's from Baseball Reference, but I'm not sure how they got to this page. Maybe Will knows. Everything colder than that 23F game is an error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Borderline moderate snow in Rockland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, dendrite said: The Sox game today? Here's a list I found online. It looks like it's from Baseball Reference, but I'm not sure how they got to this page. Maybe Will knows. Everything colder than that 23F game is an error. Not buying the 12 degrees in August? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarloaf1989 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 There's a few scattered flurries here, 36F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 27 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: Not buying the 12 degrees in August? After today I'll buy it for here, but I'll sell it for San Francisco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 So in these transition months we generally average about 10F warmer on a monthly basis. If I'm sitting at 26F with IPZR at solar noon April 15th, it makes me believe it's possible to pull off a midday <= 32F ZR/R in the beginning of May since 15 days gets you about another 5F on average. Obviously we've snowed in May before, but that is generally with the right dynamics, an ULL, heavy precip, etc. Is there anything in the climo record in May with subfreezing CAD and ZR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Plow just went by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, dendrite said: So in these transition months we generally average about 10F warmer on a monthly basis. If I'm sitting at 26F with IPZR at solar noon April 15th, it makes me believe it's possible to pull off a midday <= 32F ZR/R in the beginning of May since 15 days gets you about another 5F on average. Obviously we've snowed in May before, but that is generally with the right dynamics, an ULL, heavy precip, etc. Is there anything in the climo record in May with subfreezing CAD and ZR? Yeah I feel like a snowstorm right now would be easier to pull off than this mixed precipitation. Heck we can get a mid-April snowstorm at 32-34F and heavy precip. But to have steady -ZRPL at temps in the 20s seems like it would be more rare than a 12" blue bomb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxeyeNH Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Im watching the RS. They just said current temp 34F. Coldest game since April 17 2003 which was also 34F. Meanwhile after lots of IP and SG today has gone over to a nice batch of FR. 25F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 5 hours ago, CoastalWx said: Meh. Dry air FTL. You mean the mid April sne ice storm hallucinations didn't work out? Back to the drawing board- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Snowing nicely on the Wildcat cam skiing looks midwinter conditions with full coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 1 hour ago, ORH_wxman said: Algos FTL. AWT. I'd bet that some of the euro algos are just looking at H7 and H85 and cannot "see" the warm layer in between. Going conservative within several weeks of Memorial day is usually a good bet, unless you're estimating how many hot weiners Steve will feed the dogs by the fire pit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Ginx snewx said: Snowing nicely on the Wildcat cam skiing looks midwinter conditions with full coverage. Epic ski season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Impressive cold, though...wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 I’ve got flakes flying here. Tiny ones 32.8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 this could actually do like a Jan 1994 deal where it ZR/PL's out of an elevated warm layer and we do these packing foam grains off the ocean underneath. actually ... it doesn't look like much other than this ocean gunk is happenin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: Epic ski season. Sunday River is wide open ,closing mid week 2 weekends left will be closing with tons of snow . Impressive back half. Still watching the Euro for Thursday Friday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Sunday River is wide open ,closing mid week 2 weekends left will be closing with tons of snow . Impressive back half. Still watching the Euro for Thursday Friday No one is thinking about skiing now though. As Freak said resorts are deserted. Thursday looks like real deal legit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 10 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: I’ve got flakes flying here. Tiny ones 32.8 Yea, was just going to post the same. 31 with a coating on non paved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: No one is thinking about skiing now though. As Freak said resorts are deserted. Thursday looks like real deal legit Lol no sh it but there are people skiing right now all over the open mountains.with midwinter conditions on April 15th , it is very notable hence my post. People actually live outside of CT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 9 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: this could actually do like a Jan 1994 deal where it ZR/PL's out of an elevated warm layer and we do these packing foam grains off the ocean underneath. actually ... it doesn't look like much other than this ocean gunk is happenin' Cool late season meteorology. Beats the humid 87 that DC had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 1 minute ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: Cool late season meteorology. Beats the humid 87 that DC had. Wow she actually let's you post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Lol no sh it but there are people skiing right now all over the open mountains.with midwinter conditions on April 15th , it is very notable hence my post. People actually live outside of CT Only local die hards. You aren’t getting people making long trips up to ski . Not in Napril when thoughts are on baseball, lawns, outdoor sports etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarloaf1989 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Only local die hards. You aren’t getting people making long trips up to ski . Not in Napril when thoughts are on baseball, lawns, outdoor sports etc Wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, Sugarloaf1989 said: Wrong He's a sheeple and the reason we enjoy ski on no lift lines days in March and April and empty beaches in September. Ingrained in their brains and cant think out of the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Wish we were here. Wow Weather Service Green Bay WI 1137 AM CDT Sun Apr 15 2018 WIZ022-038>040-048>050-073-074-151945- Door-Outagamie-Brown-Kewaunee-Winnebago-Calumet-Manitowoc- Southern Marinette County-Southern Oconto County- 1137 AM CDT Sun Apr 15 2018 ...HISTORIC APRIL SNOWSTORM CONTINUES TO BRING BLIZZARD CONDITIONS THIS AFTERNOON... Radar indicated a large band of moderate to heavy snow across much of northeast Wisconsin. This band of snow will continue through mid afternoon, then gradually taper off to light snow or light freezing drizzle late this afternoon. Snowfall rates of 1 to 3 inches per hour are expected in the heavy snow bands. Northeast winds gusting to 35 to 50 mph will create significant areas of blowing and drifting snow and may cause some tree damage and sporadic power outages. Motorist can expect widespread visibilities of a quarter of a mile or less through mid afternoon, and at times down to near zero due to the heavy snow and blowing snow. Additional snow accumulations through late evening will be in the 5 to 10 inch range on top of what already has fallen. This is a historic April snowstorm that is expected to produce 15 to 30 inches across much of the area with locally higher amounts. Extremely difficult travel conditions will continue into this evening. Travel is not recommended, except in the case of an emergency. If you must travel, take adequate precautions to ensure you remain safe if you become stranded. Make sure your vehicles tires, battery, lights, defrosters and windshield wipers are in good working order before beginning your trip. Make sure the gasoline tank is full before crossing open country. Be sure to take along a flashlight, blankets, food, and water. If you become stranded, remain with your vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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