HoarfrostHubb Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, weathafella said: Warm ground is bs. It’s all about intensity. Heavy snow (1/4 or less vis) would accumulate in June. I’ve seen close to a foot in May...it depends on intensity. But it is harder of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Good bump north on the Euro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Euro is what we’ve been calling for days. Nice stripe of 2-4” south of 90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 We Snow!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarloaf1989 Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 The timings not the best with snow starting here at sunrise. Going to be tough to accumulate on roads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Everyone go to the thread specific for the Monday event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Man... the novel of the week isn't the chapter about snow on Monday... (if at all this far N). It's story about spring variation, one that features any kind of wintry event followed two days later by a warm sector intrusion that may bring 70 F to those same areas...along with possibly even a substantive severe potential (less confident). Has that transitional story line crossed anyone's attention ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 11 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: Man... the novel of the week isn't the chapter about snow on Monday... (if at all this far N). It's story about spring variation, one that features any kind of wintry event followed two days later by a warm sector intrusion that may bring 70 F to those same areas...along with possibly even a substantive severe potential (less confident). Has that transitional story line crossed anyone's attention ? Yes we’ve been talking about 3-6” Monday then 70”s and dews with damaging storms Wednesday and then capped off with a tree toppler next weekend. Then suddenly it’s summer past mid month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Warm ground is not total BS.... It's more like 'partial BS' Both sides of that discussion are kinda wrong, at least the way people argue their points. One side, the warm ground is too warm: that side is wrong because it thinks of initial environment condition of a day of warm sun as being preclusive and absolute, which is remarkably short-sighted and well...not based on very good science. The other side, the side that said it's BS: also thinks that it's absolutely untrue - which is false. If it snows...wee, we get to get a snow pack? No...not quite. Fact of the matter is, some warmth is retained in the aftermath of a warm stint of weather ...and, depending upon the material exposed to falling snow, the accumulation success will be effected for a time. Which means, ...it matters to some degree (no pun intended). For example, metalic interfaces have very low heat retention when contacted by cold water such as that found in falling snow, and will in a matter of moments even, chill down to a temperature where snow can stick. Provided of course the surrounding air temperature is not doing the melting - ie, above freezing, but even then...intense fall rates will overcome. That's the cold end of the spectrum,... Concrete and asphalt interfaces on the other hand, they will retain more heat and it depends upon the conditioning prior. A very warm stretch that goes quickly to cold, will melt a pig load of what falls...yes, even intense rates (I have seen 1/4 mi vis snow on wet roads), but if the fall rates persist long enough...it will eventually cool the material sufficiently to where melt rates fall below deposition rates, and the snow stays. The earth soil (under grass) is also relative to materials ... somewhere in between those extremes. But a lot of time, snow fall clings to the fuzz of lose materials and dead grass (or living), and start accumulating above the actual contact with the soil beneath.. so the physics there are complex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Have zero idea where anyone would look at GEFS GEPS EPS and think summer but whatever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 9 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Yes we’ve been talking about 3-6” Monday then 70”s and dews with damaging storms Wednesday and then capped off with a tree toppler next weekend. Then suddenly it’s summer past mid month Nice! ahaha... ah, man. I love the cinema of that description, sure... But, I'd dumb down all numbers, measures and/or degrees across that spectrum ... closer to spring variance as opposed to histrionic descriptive prose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Thinking we lose the rest of it in the mid-week cutter. Bring on the 50s. Been a good run. Haven't fully melted out since it started in early December, though it got awfully close a few times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 2 days before the double digit April 16 snow my average temp for the day was 6o degrees. The day of,it accumulated immediately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Typhoon Tip said: Nice! ahaha... ah, man. I love the cinema of that description, sure... But, I'd dumb down all numbers, measures and/or degrees across that spectrum ... closer to spring variance as opposed to histrionic descriptive prose. There is zero indication of summer in any modeling, definitely histrionics. Spring fer sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 32 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: 2 days before the double digit April 16 snow my average temp for the day was 6o degrees. The day of,it accumulated immediately Not responding to you in particular, Ginxy, just carrying the conversation... My ancedotal thoughts are it's easier for snow to stick in spring after a warm day as I'd think the ground is still quite cold regardless just under the surface. The grass is still dead and packed down from the winter snowpack too. In like October I feel like the ground is still steaming warm, grass is green and lofty (trapping more warm air too). Of course it's all intensity driven in the end, but the bookend seasons are where you start to have trouble with the .15-.25" every 6 hours type precip rates... in February it's 2-3" every 6 hours in 1-3sm -SN, when April it might be a coating to an inch every 6 hours. I think ideally you want .1/hr type stuff to really have no concerns, or at least 0.5-.1"/hr sustained. The 0.02-0.04"/hr stuff can be problematic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 1 minute ago, weathafella said: Steve will not have a trace otg 4/16. Lol April 2016 Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 10 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Lol April 2016 Jerry Lol....yeah I figured it out and deleted the post but too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Just now, weathafella said: Lol....yeah I figured it out and deleted the post but too late. What's even funnier if the GFS was ever taken verbatim we both would blow away a trace OTG on the 16th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Some chilly days upcoming, esp end of the week. Today was damn fine though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 47 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said: Some chilly days upcoming, esp end of the week. Today was damn fine though. Yes it was. Blue skies and mid-50's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Next weekend trying to come back on guidance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 42 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: Next weekend trying to come back on guidance. It never left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Snowy sunrise service...just coming down hard when that FROPA moved through. Happy Easter weens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 And why are there like 1000 people just standing there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 8 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said: And why are there like 1000 people just standing there? All the Russian Diplomats that were expelled from the US waiting for the tram car?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 I would be very angry if I was actually trying to do what I was there for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 20 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: I would be very angry if I was actually trying to do what I was there for. I'm sure the gondola was started early for the service, with skiing to begin at 8 AM or some such. (And there's more than one way down the mountain from there.) Nice sunrise service in Farmington (though the sun was behind clouds), with some goose music to accompany our pastor's message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Rev held a service. He spoke of snowy monday morning commutes, towering cumulonimbus, then horrifying blizzards next weekend and a follow-up then tales of Dews that make thy drip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom12309 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 It is cold upstairs. 45 when I got up, 38 now and it just snowed for ten minutes or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 4 hours ago, Baroclinic Zone said: And why are there like 1000 people just standing there? Easter Sunrise Service isn't an Aerobics or Spin Class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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