Jump to content
  • Member Statistics

    18,106
    Total Members
    7,904
    Most Online
    happyclam13
    Newest Member
    happyclam13
    Joined

Napril Fools? Pattern and Model Discussion . . .


HimoorWx

Recommended Posts

  On 4/3/2018 at 4:10 PM, CoastalWx said:

Amazing. That snow event Saturday would shatter records in VA I would imagine. And yeah next week probably holds best potential even with it being that far out.

Expand  

Every setup has like 520s thicknesses, lol....even Friday is cold aloft, but the issue (esp south of pike) is the BL torching on the south wind.

Usually in April we're trying to scrape by with marginal 540s thicknesses.

 

And yeah, early next week from a larger scale synoptic standpoint is a very classic look for a snowstorm in mid-winter. A robust trough in the midwest/MS Valley running into some confluence in over NE/Quebec to hold that cold air in place. Obviously nuances in the flow and individual energy within the trough will determine whether the threat succeeds or not. But pretty classic on a larger scale.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 3.4k
  • Created
  • Last Reply
  On 4/3/2018 at 3:01 PM, Baroclinic Zone said:

Duly noted.  Let's see how James and Diane fare.

Expand  

lol!!!

  On 4/3/2018 at 3:08 PM, Typhoon Tip said:

How many times does it take a blind man to hit a bull's eye ?   ...it's simply a matter of not being statistically impossible ...i.e, time.   You throw enough darts ur gonna hit a target .. eventually. 

Fact of the matter is ...that system may have busted on the higher totals side, where it snowed most prodigiously.  Interestingly, it also under performed around the edges as far as retention and actual "sticking" of the snow - which is prooobably attributed to the lateness of the calendar date.  Little critter that sort of covered both ends of the error spectrum -

Expand  

Kevin has actually not been too bad in a local sense.  I am not talking about nailing precise amounts every time, but he's had a good eye for the most part this (never ending) season.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  On 4/3/2018 at 5:06 PM, Cold Miser said:

lol!!!

Kevin has actually not been too bad in a local sense.  I am not talking about nailing precise amounts every time, but he's had a good eye for the most part this (never ending) season.

Expand  

Ya he also was saying it was over in Mid Feb....let's not get too carried away here lmao.....

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  On 4/3/2018 at 5:08 PM, WinterWolf said:

Ya he also was saying it was over in Mid Feb....let's not get too carried away here lmao.....

Expand  

lol True.  But the emotions were running high for most in Feb. (I remember myself throwing out some pretty suicidal type posts) That was just a dreadful scene all together.  I guess I am talking within a week or less. 

Anyone can make the call 10 days out that the big one is coming.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  On 4/3/2018 at 5:14 PM, Cold Miser said:

lol True.  But the emotions were running high for most in Feb. (I remember myself throwing out some pretty suicidal type posts) That was just a dreadful scene all together.  I guess I am talking within a week or less. 

Anyone can make the call 10 days out that the big one is coming.

Expand  

I was way too low in my seasonal snowfall predictions...but I def correctly called the meltdowns in February. I knew when we got the Nina February torch, it would cause a lot of melts, lol.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  On 4/3/2018 at 3:25 PM, mahk_webstah said:

Man that NAM came out as if on queue.  Maybe, like Trump and Sinclair Broadcasting, Kevin has gained control of the modeling and can make it spit out fake news?  Tamarack please adopt me, or perhaps I will take advantage of my birthrate and take Aliya.

Expand  

Huh?  You want to move to a place that forgot how to snow in April?  (Or are you bringing it with you?  :weenie:)

Have not seen any 12z runs (haven't bought into those products) but 06z gfs was still 3 mix-n-mess events here thru the middle of next week.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  On 4/3/2018 at 5:21 PM, tamarack said:

Huh?  You want to move to a place that forgot how to snow in April?  (Or are you bringing it with you?  :weenie:)

Have not seen any 12z runs (haven't bought into those products) but 06z gfs was still 3 mix-n-mess events here thru the middle of next week.

Expand  

No I was responding to Kevin's insistence of a snowy Friday, then the NAM showing that solution, and your comments about leaving to Canada if he were President, etc.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  On 4/3/2018 at 5:16 PM, ORH_wxman said:

I was way too low in my seasonal snowfall predictions...but I def correctly called the meltdowns in February. I knew when we got the Nina February torch, it would cause a lot of melts, lol.

Expand  

Very true. I think you, Ray and Scott had that pegged pretty early in the season, maybe even earlier that February was going to lay an egg and it did. 

I think the problem with that kind of set up, even though we knew from you guys that it was coming,  most didn't want it to be true. Plus when it happened, it happened hard.  Then there was brief talk by some of the 1st half of March being shi.itty, so the tailpipe hoses and nooses were starting to be pulled out of the closets by then.  It was all very in the moment frustration with the February gloom and doom. 

I am not sure if anyone saw this kind of April set up happening weeks ago in the future predictions. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  On 4/3/2018 at 5:24 PM, mahk_webstah said:

No I was responding to Kevin's insistence of a snowy Friday, then the NAM showing that solution, and your comments about leaving to Canada if he were President, etc.

Expand  

Twern't me - no relatives in Canada.  And as for Prez Kev, it's April and potential snow events are on a razor's edge.  Tom Dewey went to bed convinced he'd be the country's next president, and we all know how that turned out.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  On 4/3/2018 at 5:28 PM, Cold Miser said:

Very true. I think you, Ray and Scott had that pegged pretty early in the season, maybe even earlier that February was going to lay an egg and it did. 

I think the problem with that kind of set up, even though we knew from you guys that it was coming,  most didn't want it to be true. Plus when it happened, it happened hard.  Then there was brief talk by some of the 1st half of March being shi.itty, so the tailpipe hoses and nooses were starting to be pulled out of the closets by then.  It was all very in the moment frustration with the February gloom and doom. 

I am not sure if anyone saw this kind of April set up happening weeks ago in the future predictions. 

Expand  

It also briefly looked like February would be a good cold/snowy month too on long range guidance before it reverted back to a torch.

 

March is always kind of a wildcard...no real signal in La Nina. Sometimes they are epic (1956, 1984, 2001) and sometimes they are total duds (1985, 1989, 2000, 1974, 2012)...throw 2018 into the epic group clearly this year.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  On 4/3/2018 at 5:35 PM, ORH_wxman said:

It also briefly looked like February would be a good cold/snowy month too on long range guidance before it reverted back to a torch.

 

March is always kind of a wildcard...no real signal in La Nina. Sometimes they are epic (1956, 1984, 2001) and sometimes they are total duds (1985, 1989, 2000, 1974, 2012)...throw 2018 into the epic group clearly this year.

Expand  

At least with with memories, things like snow storms, and weather events always seem to be enhanced from what you remember as a kid.  Meaning, there may have been a few snowstorms that were so epic that today it makes it seem like every season was epic, which we know that was not true(especially the 80's.).  I always remember March being a snowy month where I grew up near Albany.  I don't have the data in front of me but I am sure it is just my brain making it seem that way due to a few nice snow events during my childhood. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  On 4/3/2018 at 5:40 PM, Cold Miser said:

At least with with memories, things like snow storms, and weather events always seem to be enhanced from what you remember as a kid.  Meaning, there may have been a few snowstorms that were so epic that today it makes it seem like every season was epic, which we know that was not true(especially the 80's.).  I always remember March being a snowy month where I grew up near Albany.  I don't have the data in front of me but I am sure it is just my brain making it seem that way due to a few nice snow events during my childhood. 

Expand  

ALB average March snow by decade:

1940-1949...9.3

1950-1959...12.5

1960-1969...12.3

1970-1979...11.8

1980-1989...9.1

1990-1999...13.6

2000-2009...11.4

2010-2018...11.2

 

1980s were awful, lol. Though 1984 was pretty epic. 1990s were actually the snowiest decade for March in Albany.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  On 4/3/2018 at 5:48 PM, ORH_wxman said:

ALB average March snow by decade:

1940-1949...9.3

1950-1959...12.5

1960-1969...12.3

1970-1979...11.8

1980-1989...9.1

1990-1999...13.6

2000-2009...11.4

2010-2018...11.2

 

1980s were awful, lol. Though 1984 was pretty epic. 1990s were actually the snowiest decade for March in Albany.

 

Expand  

What did they get in March 1993?  I assume they did well and that skews their average

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  On 4/3/2018 at 5:57 PM, HoarfrostHubb said:

What did they get in March 1993?  I assume they did well and that skews their average

Expand  

34.3 in 1993....though it was 2nd place to 34.7 1956 and that decade had a lower average.

 

Anyways, Friday still kind of balmy on euro...def starts as snow, but not as good as a CAD sig as some other guidance.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  On 4/3/2018 at 6:20 PM, CoastalWx said:

DC area looks good. But yeah Nw winds at 850 are definitely worthy of Willis flags.

Expand  

Yeah...I should have said I wanted to be 30 miles south of the qpf line, not north, lol.

 

But anytime you have those steep northwest wind flags in the midlevels...it's time to run out to the runway with John McClane's fire sticks.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  On 4/3/2018 at 6:24 PM, ORH_wxman said:

Yeah...I should have said I wanted to be 30 miles south of the qpf line, not north, lol.

 

But anytime you have those steep northwest wind flags in the midlevels...it's time to run out to the runway with John McClane's fire sticks.

Expand  

Not going to lie, will be a disappointment missing this given the setup.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.

×
×
  • Create New...