CPcantmeasuresnow Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 21.2 this morning. It's looking pretty certain I won't be cutting the lawn until sometime in May. I'm okay with that. Historically the average last freeze day in the HV, Poughkeepsie, Montgomery, New paltz is the May 4-8 period. If this pattern continues a late May freeze may be in the works this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfa Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 30 here this morning, already up to 42 however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 It's still 29 here. Yup I'd be fine if I don't have to pull the mower out until next month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Looks like NYC will have a shot at adding a few +10 or greater temperature departure days Friday into Saturday. Beyond that, not many more showing up in the pattern for a while. This would keep NYC on track with 2013 and 2014 as having the lowest number spring(MAM) days during the 2010's. NYC Spring(MAM) +10 or greater departure days during the 2010's 2018....1....so far 2017....15 2016....20 2015....14 2014....8 2013....7 2012...24 2011...12 2010...28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 1 hour ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said: 21.2 this morning. It's looking pretty certain I won't be cutting the lawn until sometime in May. I'm okay with that. Historically the average last freeze day in the HV, Poughkeepsie, Montgomery, New paltz is the May 4-8 period. If this pattern continues a late May freeze may be in the works this year. 19.8 was my low. Could have gone for single digits if I had some snow on the ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 31.0 for a low at the wantagh mesonet. Curious to see what the new meso does with the marmth Friday and Saturday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 The 12z NAM is coming into line with the Euro idea of a super backdoor cold front Saturday night. One of the few times in April that you will see 70's to near 80 in our area and 20's for the Adirondacks. This would support the Euro idea of 30 to 40 degrees colder on Sunday. At least between Saturday high and the Sunday low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice-Regent Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Backdoor hell is the worst. I will probably be on the edge which will leave me wondering until the last second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 27 low here this morning. Average low for the first 11 days of April is a hair below freezing. Only 3 days so far this April have had low temperatures above freezing. Some of the days had 11:59 pm lows. The only snow left is in old parking lot piles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Definitly a sea breeze type day on the ss today. My last pile of snow on campus here on the UWS has finally succumbed to noticeably warmer weather here in the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncat Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Still very little signs of growth...woods still have an almost winter look. I would think that we'll see somewhat of a burst with the warmup coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 this is partially why the WAR goes nuclear whenever it gets the chance and it's also a big factor in all the nor'easters https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2018/04/11/the-oceans-circulation-hasnt-been-this-sluggish-in-1000-years-thats-bad-news/?utm_term=.a7eedecf8803 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 2 hours ago, doncat said: Still very little signs of growth...woods still have an almost winter look. I would think that we'll see somewhat of a burst with the warmup coming. Yes, there are almost no buds on trees. In the record warm spring of 2010, we were almost fully leafed out by 4/11. Just a drastic difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfa Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 I see some trees flowering, with a few types in Manhattan even leafing out, the weeping willows are especially visible here and there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Some lawns are greening up and golf courses are too but otherwise it's still hardcore stick season. I usually don't mind that the undergrowth takes its time filling in but with the outrageous amount of deadfall out there the lack of greenery is even more noticeable. It just looks ragged and beat up. C'mon spring... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosswx Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Basically all trees have large buds and started leafing except the oaks found here in the pine barrens which have small buds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 40 minutes ago, Bosswx said: Basically all trees have large buds and started leafing except the oaks found here in the pine barrens which have small buds. Central jersey is always a week ahead of nyc which is a week ahead of Long Island. It’s still winter on the island. I’m about 2 weeks behind schedule with my landscape design business. Starting my first project of the season Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyWx Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 4 hours ago, nzucker said: Yes, there are almost no buds on trees. In the record warm spring of 2010, we were almost fully leafed out by 4/11. Just a drastic difference. I'm really impressed with how barren it still is. Didn't expect us to go this long without seeing at least some signs of Spring. Haven't even heard the peepers here yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewYorkweatherfan Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Here and there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 11 hours ago, Vice-Regent said: Backdoor hell is the worst. I will probably be on the edge which will leave me wondering until the last second. The models are trending away from a backdoor scenario (less SE Canada troughing), looks more like a standard frontal passage with a lot of warmth preceding the front. Strong cold push into strong WAR should make things pretty active Sun-Mon though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyWx Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Isotherm said: I've also noticed the dawn chorus has been much quieter than normal so far this spring. Typically by later in March, the birds are fairly loud in the morning; not the case this year. Vegetation and wildlife still seem to think it's late winter. My mean temp for April thus far is only 1.3 degrees warmer than February's mean temp. Yeah I agree. The frogs typically start sometime in late March here. I guess you could say it doesn't look, nor sound, like Spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 On 4/6/2018 at 7:34 AM, ThatHurricane said: Since 2000 the mean last freeze has been March 31, with values ranging from March 16th to April 16th. It would be somewhat later than average, but not too late. Just east of JFK we had a hard freeze this morning, 4/11, and this might be our last freeze for the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 8 hours ago, forkyfork said: this is partially why the WAR goes nuclear whenever it gets the chance and it's also a big factor in all the nor'easters https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2018/04/11/the-oceans-circulation-hasnt-been-this-sluggish-in-1000-years-thats-bad-news/?utm_term=.a7eedecf8803 it also explains all the blocking regimes, everything is moving slower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 3 hours ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said: Central jersey is always a week ahead of nyc which is a week ahead of Long Island. It’s still winter on the island. I’m about 2 weeks behind schedule with my landscape design business. Starting my first project of the season Friday. well the tree pollen has been really bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIK62 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Next 8 days jump to an average of 59degs., or 7degs., AN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncat Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Nam continues strongest with the back door on Sat...Temps drop off quickly after reaching the 70's, well down in the 40's by midnight and mostly in the 30's on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForestHillWx Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Along 287 in Somerset County the forsythia is in bloom. At home, nothing yet other than an old lilac which is just starting to push green buds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 1 hour ago, doncat said: Nam continues strongest with the back door on Sat...Temps drop off quickly after reaching the 70's, well down in the 40's by midnight and mostly in the 30's on Sunday. If that front pushes through earlier rather than later, in the middle of the afternoon for example, I think some people are gonna lose it, myself included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 3 hours ago, IrishRob17 said: If that front pushes through earlier rather than later, in the middle of the afternoon for example, I think some people are gonna lose it, myself included. This is continuing to look like one of the strongest backdoor cold fronts for April that we have ever seen. I can't find another example of a 1046 mb high in SE Canada pushing such a big temperature drop in just 12-24 hrs. The Euro and NAM both have the potential for easterlies near the coast to gust to 30-40 mph behind the front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 The Nam looks crazy, at least the 06z run had the drop occurring later enough to salvage Saturday. I really hope we don't see last minute trends that start pushing the front earlier and more aggressively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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